How Long will it take manufacturers to convert from DDR to DDR2?

dantonic · Nov 15, 2006

Does anyone know? when are memory manufacturers going to be able to produce DDR2 at full speed, so that we can get some relief for Memory prices???

SuperFreaky · Nov 16, 2006

I think DDR2 production has already surpassed DDR.... you mean the 1066 stuff? probably another year till its price is as reasonable as the 667 stuff today...

ch33zw1z · Nov 16, 2006

DDR prices skyrocketed in the last 6 months, i think it's already there...

dantonic · Nov 26, 2006

well DDR prices skyrocketed because they are starting to halt production of DDR to convert to DDR2. I think DDR2 is not being produced at full potential yet because of this conversion, this is partly why the DDR2 prices are high.

My assumption is that once they convert fully to DDR2, the prices of DDR2 will come down, while the prices of DDR will stay high.

What do you think? Anyone have any inside scoop?

n7 · Nov 27, 2006

Every prebuilt out there from all the major names is using DDR2 now in 90+% of cases.

I don't know the server market though.

But best i can tell, DDR2 has been more common for quite a while now.

Why are DDR2 prices so high?

I don't think there's a concrete answer to that, but considering the amount of price-fixing in the past, i wouldn't be surprised if there was stuff going on behind the scenes we don't know about, & i seriously doubt it has to do with production.

alimoalem · Nov 27, 2006

Originally posted by: n7
Every prebuilt out there from all the major names is using DDR2 now in 90+% of cases.

I don't know the server market though.

But best i can tell, DDR2 has been more common for quite a while now.

Why are DDR2 prices so high?

I don't think there's a concrete answer to that, but considering the amount of price-fixing in the past, i wouldn't be surprised if there was stuff going on behind the scenes we don't know about, & i seriously doubt it has to do with production.

QFT

myocardia · Nov 27, 2006

RAM prices magically go up every fall, and magically start falling on Dec. 26th. RAM prices reach their lowest every spring. It has nothing to do with supply, only with profit.

jlbenedict · Nov 27, 2006

Guess I should put my 2gb of DDR on the market then

Schadenfroh · Nov 27, 2006

RAM is like the oil market, OREC (Organization of Ram Exporting Companies) is a little more secretive, but rest assured, the price fixing is there.

SilentButDeadly · Nov 27, 2006

I think that since people are paying this much for memory they are just going to keep selling it until the demand starts falling for it. I believe what myocardia says though, so I will be waiting to build a computer till around mid-Jan. probably.. or if I build earlier I will be getting cheap ram and wait to get some good ram till mid-Jan. also.

dantonic · Nov 27, 2006

I also agree that it is the time of year,
however I dont remember the prices spiking this much last fall.

I figure they will probably come down this spring just like some of you said.

If there are any more people like me out there... they're also waiting for the prices to come down to upgrade their build or build anew.

I think at this point only those who have to buy are buying ie. christmas shoppers, ie. IT departments of companies, ie. Computer builders that make a living from it.

Anyone that's looking for a bargain like me is not going to find one.

I had been looking at this memory...
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16820220095
it just jumped this morning from $249.99 to $255.99 Ridiculous.. still climbing at this point.

I'm definitely waiting.

I hope we hit the prices that we had this past spring.

Hidden Hippo · Nov 27, 2006

I expect the manufacturers are taking advantage of the recent introduction of the Core 2 Duo chips as well. I assume they are also banking on people wanting a complete upgrade to current tech, meaning AM2 and C2D.

w00t · Nov 27, 2006

DDR2 is mainstream now DDR prices are going up and DDR2 is going down.

CalvinHobbes · Nov 28, 2006

I was looking at some DDR two weeks ago that was $117, today it was $107. I'm hoping the prices are falling.

dantonic · Dec 2, 2006

Are the memory prices actually starting to come down? Thats what it looks like to me.

Does anyone know if this memory contains Micron chips?
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16820220095
Is there a rule of thumb for patriot memory? As in do they color code their memory? HOw do you tell what has micron?

dantonic · Dec 2, 2006

Are the memory prices actually starting to come down? Thats what it looks like to me.

Does anyone know if this memory contains Micron chips?
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16820220095
Is there a rule of thumb for patriot memory? As in do they color code their memory? HOw do you tell what has micron?

IEC · Dec 2, 2006

Originally posted by: myocardia
RAM prices magically go up every fall, and magically start falling on Dec. 26th. RAM prices reach their lowest every spring. It has nothing to do with supply, only with profit.

Yeah, I've noticed that general trend several times before. Although last year RAM prices in December were pretty good (1GB DDR sticks for $65-75)

n7 · Dec 2, 2006

Originally posted by: dantonic
Are the memory prices actually starting to come down? Thats what it looks like to me.

Does anyone know if this memory contains Micron chips?
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16820220095
Is there a rule of thumb for patriot memory? As in do they color code their memory? HOw do you tell what has micron?

Used to have D9s, now appears to be Elpidas.
http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.aspx?catid=28&threadid=1966035

Smartazz · Dec 2, 2006

I noticed that right after core 2 came out RAM prices skyrocketed. I ordered my ram the day before core 2 came out so I got mine nice and cheap, half of what it was at one point. I think it has something to do with supply and demand. Core 2 is DDR2, therefore when people wanted new builds, everyone wanted more ram.

emilyek · Dec 2, 2006

Originally posted by: Smartazz
I noticed that right after core 2 came out RAM prices skyrocketed. I ordered my ram the day before core 2 came out so I got mine nice and cheap, half of what it was at one point. I think it has something to do with supply and demand. Core 2 is DDR2, therefore when people wanted new builds, everyone wanted more ram.

That, and price-gouging because people think it's the reason prices should go up.

dantonic · Dec 3, 2006

Originally posted by: n7

Originally posted by: dantonic
Are the memory prices actually starting to come down? Thats what it looks like to me.

Does anyone know if this memory contains Micron chips?
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16820220095
Is there a rule of thumb for patriot memory? As in do they color code their memory? HOw do you tell what has micron?

Click to expand...

Used to have D9s, now appears to be Elpidas.
http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.aspx?catid=28&threadid=1966035

Well, see according to the guide, the 6400 equivalent of that memory does have D9 chips. From what I gathered from the reviews on newegg, if it comes in black heatsink it is micron if it comes in green it is elpida. And some recent purchasers seem to think that newegg has the micron stuff...

Do you know, is that the way Patriot color codes their memory? Is it always true? Black = Micron?

Thx

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