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How long 'til M$ adopts an open-source model for software distribution?

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There are advantages of open and closed source. I'm glad that we have both options. I honestly believe that Microsoft is becoming better at producing good software even if many linux distros are better.
 
Please add:

"Never - Microsoft will continue to coexist with open-source"
"Never - Microsoft will assimilate open-source"
"Never - The government will ban open-source because when you compile your own code, you're supporting terrorism"

kthx

- M4H
 
Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: b0mbrman
Ha ha. It's hilarious how you substituted a $ for the S in Microsoft 😀

You should do stand up

Seriously
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would you prefer 'Microsux'? maybe even Micro$ux? 🙂
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I just refer to them as "small and flaccid".

 
Originally posted by: chambersc
Originally posted by: aidanjm
open your eyes to the possibilities 😛
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The sole function of a business is to maximize its profits. How does one maximize their profits if they "adopt an open-source model for software distribution?"
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By selling support.
 
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Please add:

"Never - Microsoft will continue to coexist with open-source"
"Never - Microsoft will assimilate open-source"
"Never - The government will ban open-source because when you compile your own code, you're supporting terrorism"

kthx

- M4H
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Yeah, I agree. This poll is crap. The end only spells the demise of Microsoft, what a rigged poll.
 
Originally posted by: DrPizza
Marketing geniuses; I'm not even sure that they're the ones responsible for their own marketing.
Open office is just as easy to use as MS office, yet for virtually every computer in every school in this country (purchased within the last 5 years), it has Windows on it, and some version of the microsoft office software. "Because that's what kids are going to use when they go to the workplace." Then, the kids graduate, "I can't use anything but Microsoft products - that's all I was ever trained on" and the cycle repeats.
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Hah, it also worked in the opposite way against apple. After forcing macintosh down school's throats for the longest time, people realized that they suck.
 
Originally posted by: SoulAssassin
Originally posted by: chambersc
Originally posted by: aidanjm
open your eyes to the possibilities 😛
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The sole function of a business is to maximize its profits. How does one maximize their profits if they "adopt an open-source model for software distribution?"
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By selling support.
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How does support deal with software distribution. It would lose money if it adopts an open-source distribution method. I argue no business aught to do this.
 
Never. The success of open-source software can be directly linked to the success of non-open source software. The former tends to depend on the later.
 
Never, and they're doing their best to destroy Linux from the inside out right now with their Novell insanity.
 
you see a world where open source reigns supreme, and i see a world where programmers are starving.
 
Originally posted by: aidanjm
I say 10 years.
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that's a really unbiased poll :roll:
You get 10 points for the $ in MSFT, you can get 10 more points if you use the words evil, republicans and corporations in the same sentance. WTF is this, left wing olympics?
 
I can't vote in the poll, I don't agree with any of your answers.

Microsoft will continue to prosper. There is nothing wrong with closed source software. Many people who contribute to open source software probably work on close source software for a living.
 
Originally posted by: aidanjm
guys, you are really boring me with your lack of vision and imagination :disgust:
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you are just as boring with your lack of common sense and logic. If you owned a goose that laid golden eggs, would you give it up volunterly?

/thread
 
Originally posted by: AnyMal
Originally posted by: aidanjm
guys, you are really boring me with your lack of vision and imagination :disgust:
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you are just as boring with your lack of common sense and logic. If you owned a goose that laid golden eggs, would you give it up volunterly?

/thread
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Why, of course he would. He would also freely breed his goose with others in his community of Gooseville to create thousands of baby goslings, capable of pooping out their own little nuggets. Eventually gold would become worthless, and other towns would no longer trade with the residents of Gooseville as they realized they were artificially inflating their wealth.

/crappy analogy

- M4H
 
Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: ntdz
Closed source is a failure? That's interesting considering the two most popular OS's are closed source (Windows and Mac OSX).
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think ahead ten years. assume the continued rapid growth of use of open-source software in corporate scenarios.
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Rapid growth? are you stoned?

For example.. Chevrontexaco has 150k windows workstations worldwide. and maybe at the very most 1000 Linux machines.. and every linux user still requires a Windows PC..

LINUX is only good for us for very specialized apps that are still closed source and it takes us 8x as long to test new Linux builds to be GIL approved for deployment.

We are rolling to Vista this year with new machines company wide and I have heard nothing about us expanding to anymore UNIX/LINUX boxes..in the next 10 years budget.

And this is pretty much the standard for most large companies Ive worked for.. Noone is willing to take a risk on an opensource OS for general users..
Windows is much safer and proven and software is widely available.


MS isnt going anywhere.. Bill is so rich his next 2 OSs could fail and hed still be #1 in IT.



 
Originally posted by: CVSiN
Rapid growth? are you stoned?

For example.. Chevrontexaco has 150k windows workstations worldwide. and maybe at the very most 1000 Linux machines.. and every linux user still requires a Windows PC..
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yes! rapid growth!

as for your example - one example hardly makes the case!
 
aidanjm is always good for a chuckle. He's the guy who thinks that in 50 years everyone will remember the name Stallman while nobody remembers the name Gates. :roll: Hell, right now I bet if you asked 100 people on the street almost all of them would know Gates while maybe one or two would know who Richard Stallman is. What are the odds that's going to reverse?
 
Originally posted by: BoberFett
aidanjm is always good for a chuckle. He's the guy who thinks that in 50 years everyone will remember the name Stallman while nobody remembers the name Gates. :roll: Hell, right now I bet if you asked 100 people on the street almost all of them would know Gates while maybe one or two would know who Richard Stallman is. What are the odds that's going to reverse?
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I think you're being overly generous there. 😛

/obligatory "RMS needs to shave, shower, and STFU" comment

- M4H
 
I think they're seeing light in terms of opening up file formats and communications protocol, but open sourcing their applications? Never.
 
Originally posted by: BoberFett
aidanjm is always good for a chuckle. He's the guy who thinks that in 50 years everyone will remember the name Stallman while nobody remembers the name Gates. :roll: Hell, right now I bet if you asked 100 people on the street almost all of them would know Gates while maybe one or two would know who Richard Stallman is. What are the odds that's going to reverse?
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who?
seriously.. wtf is that?

Ive been in IT for 15 years and dont know that name..
Steve Jobs yes.. Bill Gates Check.. Stallman? wtf
 
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looks at some research aimed at determining if open source software (Linux) could ever completely displace Windows in the market. The researchers use mathematical modelling of the market for operating systems, taking a range of factors into account in their model. this is really fascinating research, as it throws up some ideas on why linux has been so successful, how linux could become even more successful, and also sheds light on the tactics M$ will need to employ to hold on to market share. the model seems to suggest M$ will almost certainly need to lower prices to remain in the market. The model also throws up some really interesting possibilities - including the fact that under certain circumstances, piracy of the Windows operating system actually helps microsoft to stay in the game. (What pirates have been saying for years). Finally, it seems quite likely that M$ will not only need to open up it's code to the wider community in some manner at some point, but also find a way to encourage community memebers to actively contribute to bug finding and fixing etc. Very facinating little article, well worth a read. The overarching message of the article is that open source is a very serious threat to M$, and that M$ may well be required to open up its code in some fashion not as a gesture of generosity but as a matter of survival.

 
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