How long have microprocessor clock speeds been stagnant?

[Blackjack2000]

I've been looking around the internet, can't find this. I'm just trying to figure out how long Intel and AMD have been stuck.

 

[Blain]

They're not stuck. They are just slower to bring new CPU's to market.

 

[jkresh]

Intel hasnt changed much recently though it has been a shorter period then 18 months, and amd only recently got the fx55 and 2.6ghz so neither is stuck though intel wont be breaking 4ghz for a while (not because they cant but because of the cost/heat that those chips would incur)

 

[imported_Hi]

they are doing other things and who gives a shlt about clock speeds

its not like its the most important thing

 

[Blackjack2000]

well, fx-55 and Intel's recent offerings offered marginal increases at best. That's why Intel's been piling cache on their chips (to make them seem better) and both companies have basically shifted to dual core for increases in speed.

 

[Blackjack2000]

Originally posted by: Hi
who gives a shlt about clock speeds

Probably software developers, who aren't looking forward to having to rewrite all their code to utilize dual core chips.

 

[jldash]

nope -- I think they are about at the ceiling of what they can do with current fabs. Heat dissipation is the problem now -- that is WHY they are doing other things. But I agree, clockspeed isn't everything... hell I should know I have been with the clock underdogs - Apple and AMD for a long time now!

 

[Baked]

Apple doesn't make their own CPU, IBM does it for them. Apple is a ridiculously overpriced reseller of repackaged goods.

 

[n7]

Considering the 3.06 GHz P4s came out a few yrs. ago, i'd say things have been stagnant for a few yrs.

Sadly, they are only going to get slower at coming out with faster CPUs, especially now that the focus is all on dual-core.

 

[SynthDude2001]

Originally posted by: n7
Considering the 3.06 GHz P4s came out a few yrs. ago, i'd say things have been stagnant for a few yrs.

Sadly, they are only going to get slower at coming out with faster CPUs, especially now that the focus is all on dual-core.

Basically. I believe the 3.06GHz P4 came out around the end of 2002...

At least video cards are still moving right along though. There was the 6800/X800 generation last year (2x+ jump in performance from the old parts, for the most part), and the upcoming R520 and Nvidia chips are supposedly going to bring about similar performance gains (although we'll see).

 

[jldash]

I know Apple does not make their own CPU... I was merely stating two major Computer Products vendors that I think are great that have long been running lower clocks than Intel.

 

[imported_Hi]

Originally posted by: Blackjack2000

Originally posted by: Hi
who gives a shlt about clock speeds

Probably software developers, who aren't looking forward to having to rewrite all their code to utilize dual core chips.

there are other things sucs as IPC,the 64-bit thing, on-die cache, instructions such as SSE2,SSE3, 3Dnow+ why do you think Centrinos clocked so low beat Pentiums 4's at 3.8ghz

 

[SNM]

Originally posted by: Baked
Apple doesn't make their own CPU, IBM does it for them. Apple is a ridiculously overpriced reseller of repackaged goods.

Apple is a seller of a different kind of computing experience. Does it cost more? Definitely. Is it overpriced? I don't think so.
Not that their computing experience is for everybody.

 

[Sentinel]

Originally posted by: Baked
Apple doesn't make their own CPU, IBM does it for them. Apple is a ridiculously overpriced reseller of repackaged goods.

thought it was motorola?

 

[Budmantom]

Originally posted by: SynthDude2001

Originally posted by: n7
Considering the 3.06 GHz P4s came out a few yrs. ago, i'd say things have been stagnant for a few yrs.

Sadly, they are only going to get slower at coming out with faster CPUs, especially now that the focus is all on dual-core.

Basically. I believe the 3.06GHz P4 came out around the end of 2002...

At least video cards are still moving right along though. There was the 6800/X800 generation last year (2x+ jump in performance from the old parts, for the most part), and the upcoming R520 and Nvidia chips are supposedly going to bring about similar performance gains (although we'll see).

The video cards are moving slower than clock speed, it's been over a year since the new video cards came out and finally you can get your hands on one.



Tom

 

[MrControversial]

Originally posted by: Blackjack2000
well, fx-55 and Intel's recent offerings offered marginal increases at best. That's why Intel's been piling cache on their chips (to make them seem better) and both companies have basically shifted to dual core for increases in speed.

Don't you mean "for increases in IPC". I know that's what you meant, but some people may read "clock speed".

 

[Googer]

Originally posted by: SynthDude2001

Originally posted by: n7
Considering the 3.06 GHz P4s came out a few yrs. ago, i'd say things have been stagnant for a few yrs.

Sadly, they are only going to get slower at coming out with faster CPUs, especially now that the focus is all on dual-core.

Basically. I believe the 3.06GHz P4 came out around the end of 2002...

At least video cards are still moving right along though. There was the 6800/X800 generation last year (2x+ jump in performance from the old parts, for the most part), and the upcoming R520 and Nvidia chips are supposedly going to bring about similar performance gains (although we'll see).

It was on a 533 Mhz Bus, the real performance increase came when the 800 Mhz bus with dual channel memory arrived. Performance is not all about CPU cycles, IO has a great effect on processor performance.

 

[SNM]

Originally posted by: Sentinel

Originally posted by: Baked
Apple doesn't make their own CPU, IBM does it for them. Apple is a ridiculously overpriced reseller of repackaged goods.

thought it was motorola?

It used to be; Apple, IBM, and Motorola developed the first PowerPCs together. Motorola had constant supply issues, though, so they switched to IBM. Plus IBM had better chips.

 

[n0cmonkey]

Originally posted by: Sentinel

Originally posted by: Baked
Apple doesn't make their own CPU, IBM does it for them. Apple is a ridiculously overpriced reseller of repackaged goods.

thought it was motorola?

Apple, IBM, and Motorola worked together creating the PowerPC architecture. IBM and Freescale (Motorola) make the chips.