How long can modern man live only eating raw, uncooked food?

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Modelworks

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Modern man probably not long because it would be hard to adapt. Eating raw meat will not harm you , may be better for you, if it is from a clean source. Raw hamburger sandwiches were eaten often in the early 1900's until the public became scared of disease.
 
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Modern man probably not long because it would be hard to adapt. Eating raw meat will not harm you , may be better for you, if it is from a clean source. Raw hamburger sandwiches were eaten often in the early 1900's until the public became scared of disease.

the difference was before modern meat packing, people bought or raised beef and ground their own meat at home. They did not buy ground meat at the store. The meat they bought was often butchered THAT DAY. The risk of eColi is MUCH higher on ground beef than on butchered cuts, and the fresher the better.
 

silverpig

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I'm sure I could get by just fine on an all raw diet. Stick to mostly fruits/veg/dairy for breakfast and lunch, then a small piece of raw meat for dinner. I could live on sashimi no problem.

Also, if you let me quickly sear the outside of my meat to kill the bacteria, I'll eat the middle part raw.
 

Modelworks

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the difference was before modern meat packing, people bought or raised beef and ground their own meat at home. They did not buy ground meat at the store. The meat they bought was often butchered THAT DAY. The risk of eColi is MUCH higher on ground beef than on butchered cuts, and the fresher the better.

yep , I still get most of my meat that way. My brother goes out , selects the unlucky hog that morning, shoots it, and we have it all prepared by that afternoon :)

If you have the land , hogs and cows along with chickens are really cheap , though I doubt most people would be okay with the butchering process if they had to do it themselves.
 

waggy

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yep , I still get most of my meat that way. My brother goes out , selects the unlucky hog that morning, shoots it, and we have it all prepared by that afternoon :)

If you have the land , hogs and cows along with chickens are really cheap , though I doubt most people would be okay with the butchering process if they had to do it themselves.

you don't even have to butcher it yourself. there are places that will do it cheap.

well at least cows and hogs. i wouldnt pay anyone to butcher a chicken or turkey for me.
 

zinfamous

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"Modern man" never would have become "modern man" depending on a complete diet of raw, uncooked food.
 

sdifox

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Raw is not the issue, keeping bacterias out of the raw meat is the issue.
 

WHAMPOM

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Ehh ... I suppose I could eat pickled meats instead of cooked, or just salted meats ... and not run into too many issues with stuff like E Coli ... But I'd rather just cook it medium rare ...

You mean chemically cooked meats. Which acid and salt do, cured meat?
 

Siddhartha

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I saw on a Nature program, I think, that cooking food allowed humans to get by with less facial\jar musculature which allowed the development of a larger brain. The scientists in the program tracked the physical\skeletal changes with genetic changes.
 

BurnItDwn

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You mean chemically cooked meats. Which acid and salt do, cured meat?

Yes, I guess I just assumed they meant fire/heat cooked meat in the OP ....
If I had to eat completely raw, then I would probably be sick a lot from all the bacteria :) Though I suspect if I survived the first month or so, I would build up some decent resistance in my immune system....
 

FoBoT

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there is a group, like vegetarians/vegans who take it to this level and only eat raw uncooked non-meats

http://www.amazon.com/Raw-Uncook-Boo.../dp/0060392622

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http://www.reactivatelife.com/
The importance of consuming uncooked fruits and vegetables cannot be understated. Cooked food is depleted of enzymes (the ‘living’ aspect of raw food) and phyto-nutrients. Simply put, viable enzymes in uncooked food are essential to digestion, nutrient transport to the cells and are literally the energy conductors to our body. Cooking food essentially ‘kills’ natural enzymes. Phyto-nutrients are natural bioactive compounds found in fruits and vegetables essential to healthy living.
 

HumblePie

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Hrmm, even most veggies require cooking to be edible or pickling. Ever try an olive raw? You'll be sick for a week. About the only thing that humans can eat raw all the time is fruits. But fruits have a limited nutritional value. No proteins at all.

I'm not saying people can't live on fruits and veggies alone, but not uncooked veggies. All the veggies that have protein in them require cooking to eat. Beans aren't very good if they aren't cooked.

So without cooking food, we'd be stuck eating crap like beans all day long and popping them out the other end.
 

Miramonti

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There was a Wife Swap show (or similar show...can't remember other one like it) where one family ate *everything* raw, including raw chicken. In fact, raw chicken was the kids' favorite meat, and they never got salmonella poisoning. It might have helped that the chickens were from their own farm.

The swapped wife took them out for a fast food burger for probably the first time in their lives and the kids stomachs were in excruciating pain.
 

zinfamous

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there is a group, like vegetarians/vegans who take it to this level and only eat raw uncooked non-meats

http://www.amazon.com/Raw-Uncook-Boo.../dp/0060392622

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http://www.reactivatelife.com/

yes. these people are crazy, and pretty much wrong on most of their science. I saw one of them on Bizarre Foods--not particularly bizarre for what's-his-face, but you could tell that most of these people are off.

Raw culture is mostly populated with LA housewives and celebutants with nothing else to do during their day.
 

DrPizza

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you don't even have to butcher it yourself. there are places that will do it cheap.

well at least cows and hogs. i wouldnt pay anyone to butcher a chicken or turkey for me.

Ironically, on a pound for pound basis, I'd rather butcher a cow or pig than do chickens or turkeys. I always butcher all my own deer that I shoot. But the last time I got cornish cross chickens to raise & butcher, I butchered a few of them, realized that boneless skinless chicken breast at the grocery store for $1.48 a pound is a heck of a better deal, and left the rest of the chickens to die of old age at around 12-16 weeks of age. (Congestive heart failure from being too big.)
 

sandorski

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Ironically, on a pound for pound basis, I'd rather butcher a cow or pig than do chickens or turkeys. I always butcher all my own deer that I shoot. But the last time I got cornish cross chickens to raise & butcher, I butchered a few of them, realized that boneless skinless chicken breast at the grocery store for $1.48 a pound is a heck of a better deal, and left the rest of the chickens to die of old age at around 12-16 weeks of age. (Congestive heart failure from being too big.)

hehe, damn dude, you could have put them on a Diet and Exercise program or something. :D:D
 

Modelworks

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Ironically, on a pound for pound basis, I'd rather butcher a cow or pig than do chickens or turkeys. I always butcher all my own deer that I shoot. But the last time I got cornish cross chickens to raise & butcher, I butchered a few of them, realized that boneless skinless chicken breast at the grocery store for $1.48 a pound is a heck of a better deal, and left the rest of the chickens to die of old age at around 12-16 weeks of age. (Congestive heart failure from being too big.)

You can offset the cost quite a bit if you get some laying hens. They quit laying, they get the ax . PETA will probably sue me now !
 

sandorski

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You can offset the cost quite a bit if you get some laying hens. They quit laying, they get the ax . PETA will probably sue me now !

Yup. My Parents did that a few times. Laying Hens are practically given away, fatten them up for a month, butcher. Meat is tougher than what you'd get at the store, but if you Stew them or just don't mind the toughness they ar good eating at a reasonable Cost.