How long before wi-fi makes all other mediums obsolete?

[Inspector Jihad]

Originally posted by: Goosemaster

Originally posted by: broon
You will always have fiber. Wireless can't keep up. Companies currently use 10gb/s circuits to transport their data across the country. I'd like to see wireless keep up with that.

Wireless will get tpretty fast. Unfortuantely due to the fact that the speed of light is muc hfaster than the speed of sound, radio will, in the future, depend on the capabilities of comrpession, as it will inevitably hit a wall.


The main issue with wireless transmission is rhe issue of security. With radio, you are basically broadcasting out and anyone within a certain distance can intercept data and run a dictioanry attack against the encryption etc. With physical lines, they physically have to tap into it.

BTW, tapping into fiber is almost impossible. It's been done...in a lab


Sure security will increase and the like, but as Kaido hinted to, the airwaves are gettign bombarded with gagilliosn of impromtu "standard" that are creating a mess. If wireless will ever serve as a backbone, for the short time it looks like microwave and the like will be the mediums, but in the future, if wimax takes hold, the quality of the airwaves needs to be kept in good health.

radio waves travel at the speed of light...unless I'm misunderstanding your post.

I guess IP tech is teh future...tv and phone will be integrated into the internet.

 

[spidey07]

Inspector Jihad,

TV, phone and data are already here.

But think about on demand HD video? Wireless can't support that. It has a hard enough time supporting VoIP.

While wireless offers mobility, it will never replace a hard cable. Mainly because the hard cable doesn't have the problems and unpredictable nature that wireless has.

I could get really into it, but basically you have an unpredictable carrier (wireless). That doesn't bode well for high bandwidth network communications.

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Never

/thread

Don't make me get technical on your ass.

- M4H

 

[So]

Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad

Originally posted by: Goosemaster

Originally posted by: broon
You will always have fiber. Wireless can't keep up. Companies currently use 10gb/s circuits to transport their data across the country. I'd like to see wireless keep up with that.

Wireless will get tpretty fast. Unfortuantely due to the fact that the speed of light is muc hfaster than the speed of sound, radio will, in the future, depend on the capabilities of comrpession, as it will inevitably hit a wall.


The main issue with wireless transmission is rhe issue of security. With radio, you are basically broadcasting out and anyone within a certain distance can intercept data and run a dictioanry attack against the encryption etc. With physical lines, they physically have to tap into it.

BTW, tapping into fiber is almost impossible. It's been done...in a lab


Sure security will increase and the like, but as Kaido hinted to, the airwaves are gettign bombarded with gagilliosn of impromtu "standard" that are creating a mess. If wireless will ever serve as a backbone, for the short time it looks like microwave and the like will be the mediums, but in the future, if wimax takes hold, the quality of the airwaves needs to be kept in good health.

radio waves travel at the speed of light...unless I'm misunderstanding your post.

I guess IP tech is teh future...tv and phone will be integrated into the internet.

Yeah...wtf?

 

[everman]

Originally posted by: lokiju
I remember reading an article about how SETI will be obsolete one day because as we progress we use less and less radio broadcast and more direct type transmissions such as satellite, fiber, cable etc and that it's a theory as to why we haven't found anything from an advanced planet/life form yet since it's making the assumption that the more advanced we become the else radio radiation a planet will emit, but then I think about Wi-fi and think about how much radio transmissions that in itself produces and makes me think otherwise.

The idea is that SETI has always been a waste of time because it's thought that most civilizations would be like us and not use radio communications for very long. Maybe 200 years and that's it, we're off to using better things that won't be detected by radio telescopes.

Now I'll get flamed by all the SETI people. *ducks*

 

[her209]

Originally posted by: randay

Originally posted by: MX2times
I think one day we will figure out how to secure wireless entirely

I don't think so, as long as its being broadcasted and can be picked up by someone else, it will always be unsecure. Plain and simple it'll never be secure because wireless is, well, wireless.

You don't have a point-to-point connection to all the servers you visit do you?

 

[Goosemaster]

Originally posted by: So

Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad

Originally posted by: Goosemaster

Originally posted by: broon
You will always have fiber. Wireless can't keep up. Companies currently use 10gb/s circuits to transport their data across the country. I'd like to see wireless keep up with that.

Wireless will get tpretty fast. Unfortuantely due to the fact that the speed of light is muc hfaster than the speed of sound, radio will, in the future, depend on the capabilities of comrpession, as it will inevitably hit a wall.


The main issue with wireless transmission is rhe issue of security. With radio, you are basically broadcasting out and anyone within a certain distance can intercept data and run a dictioanry attack against the encryption etc. With physical lines, they physically have to tap into it.

BTW, tapping into fiber is almost impossible. It's been done...in a lab


Sure security will increase and the like, but as Kaido hinted to, the airwaves are gettign bombarded with gagilliosn of impromtu "standard" that are creating a mess. If wireless will ever serve as a backbone, for the short time it looks like microwave and the like will be the mediums, but in the future, if wimax takes hold, the quality of the airwaves needs to be kept in good health.

radio waves travel at the speed of light...unless I'm misunderstanding your post.

I guess IP tech is teh future...tv and phone will be integrated into the internet.

Yeah...wtf?

yeah. My bad....brain fart

 

[chambersc]

Originally posted by: MX2times
I think one day we will figure out how to secure wireless entirely

I don't. There will always be people building a bigger ladder than the highest wall we put up.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: MikeyIs4Dcats
voip is stalling out IMO.

and how would wi-fi "make other mediums obsolete"? It's a method of accessing the internet, but you still must have the connection.

HUH?!? VoIP is growing IMHO.

wireless is just a physical layer...you do not have to have a 'cabled' connection technically.

I eventually think wi-fi will handle 90% of everything with the mission critical stuff still handled now with direct point to point encrypted connections.

 

[blakeatwork]

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Never

/thread

Don't make me get technical on your ass.

- M4H

Bring it biznatch!



I don't think Wi-Fi, as it exists now, can make wired obsolete, as wireless carries too many inherent security flaws, regardless of encryption.

Still, I think when IPv6 becomes "the standard" in what, 10-15 years?, cellphones and the like will go to a completely IP-based system, which would probably coincide with a WiMAX type infrastructure being in place...

 

[spidey07]

IPv6 isn't needed.

Wired will never, ever be obsolete.

Name one baseband wireless technology that can do 40 gigs/sec? The problem is the carrier sense medium. We got rid of that about a decade ago.

-edit- DP

 

[spidey07]

dp

 

[Inspector Jihad]

Originally posted by: blakeatwork

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Never

/thread

Don't make me get technical on your ass.

- M4H

Bring it biznatch!



I don't think Wi-Fi, as it exists now, can make wired obsolete, as wireless carries too many inherent security flaws, regardless of encryption.

Still, I think when IPv6 becomes "the standard" in what, 10-15 years?, cellphones and the like will go to a completely IP-based system, which would probably coincide with a WiMAX type infrastructure being in place...

yeah i can see cellphones being completely IP based. i guess thats what I was trying to say that tv, phones etc will become ipbased soon.