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biostud

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It's pretty common in the Northern part of Europe.




Yeah, we don't do lawsuits the way US do.
i think they do something similar to this is the Netherlands and i think in Germany as well, take the young kids out and drop them off in a forest somewhere


also we biked everywhere, even as kids....i would have had to bike at least 20km to equivalent high school , no school bus (although nowadays the kids doing that bike, ride are on electric bikes)
 
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biostud

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i think they do something similar to this is the Netherlands and i think in Germany as well, take the young kids out and drop them off in a forest somewhere


also we biked everywhere, even as kids....i would have had to bike at least 20km to equivalent high school , no school bus (although nowadays the kids doing that bike, ride are on electric bikes)
We do exchanges with a school in the Netherlands and two in Germany, I'll ask about it next time.

But it is not toddlers who are dropped of in the forest at night :D

I use a bike (electric cargo bike) to get my two youngest to their kindergartens, and my two eldest drive at bike to school (unless the get a lift from my wife). But they have less than 1km to school :p
 
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Such nonsense. Where’s the money. Think of the lawsuits.
This was how I grew up. During the summer we spent 10 hours a day with our horses. Ride a few miles down to the creek, fish once in a while, search some old abandoned buildings for treasures (found some old playboy's). At least one of us needed minor wound care at the end of the day. I remember the exact spot where my horse kicked me in the head (accidental).

We can go ahead and do all of the "that explains everything" comments now. You might even come up with one I didn't hear 50 years ago.
 

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It's pretty common in the Northern part of Europe.
Theres a fair few "forest schools" around here. My daughters primary school (which was a regular state school) used to have campfires and marshmallows, they climb trees and muck out the wildlife ponds.
 
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WelshBloke

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I believe in free range kids. Never see them out playing that much anymore. I guess there's no screens to look at.
I feel for the kids tbh.
Stay indoors and they get criticised from "staying on their screens all the time", go outside and they get "what are they up to lurking around"?
 

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Life evolved to survive in various ecological niches, humans probably in a forested landscape that became increasingly arid, back pain commonly the result of incomplete adaption to bipedal ambulation, a problem most manifest beyond reproductive age nobody reached for millions of years. Anyway, the point is that we evolved to fit the natural world with all of that genetic usefulness and function thrown out the window in concrete jungles. I remember in high school meeting a side of myself in a field trip to UC Medical research lab in San Francisco. I wandered away from the tour, already maladapted to group think, to explore on my own, the various corridors of the lab and opened an entered a door into a room full of hundreds of caged monkeys every one of which leaped ar their age doors shaking them and screaming at the top of their lungs. The had the desired effect. I knew in an instant the meaning of being insane with rage, the terror and misery of being an empowered wild animal adapted for a life of being reduced to living in a cage.

I posted above out of that same rage. A thousand monkeys kicked me in the head and woke the animal within. Fuck your cities and the mental cages you live in.

The way you catch monkeys is to put hard fruit in a milk bottle and tie it down. A monkey will reach in, grab the fruit and won’t let go to pull its hand out. Know who you are.
 

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I feel for the kids tbh.
Stay indoors and they get criticised from "staying on their screens all the time", go outside and they get "what are they up to lurking around"?
The internet and the media sell horror because we evolved to pay attention to danger. If it bleeds it leads creating a population conditioned to see catastrophe in every passing stranger. The fear of parents their kids will be harmed has led them to smother them personally.

Some American introspective humor you may enjoy:

 

biostud

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I feel for the kids tbh.
Stay indoors and they get criticised from "staying on their screens all the time", go outside and they get "what are they up to lurking around"?
Yeah, as one of our kids teacher said: They day we gave them tablets in school, was the day that kids playing died.

Luckily lots have changed and screens are restricted much more than a decade ago.
 

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While we lament days gone by, the new age is very restrictive on parents as well. Let your 10YO loose with no phone, just a bike, and see how it goes.
 
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While we lament days gone by, the new age is very restrictive on parents as well. Let your 10YO loose with no phone, just a bike, and see how it goes.
On my street it looks they run from 7 to 15. I've never seen a phone in use and have no way of telling if any of them have one.