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How it's made: carbon ceramic brakes

The Ferrari and Corvette guys have been placing them with steel 2 piece ones. They are more for show than repeated track use.
 
KentState said:
The Ferrari and Corvette guys have been placing them with steel 2 piece ones. They are more for show than repeated track use.
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I was always under the impression that the carbon ceramic brakes were specifically for track use because they held up to heat a lot better. What is their reasoning?
 
PricklyPete said:
I was always under the impression that the carbon ceramic brakes were specifically for track use because they held up to heat a lot better. What is their reasoning?
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reinforced carbon carbon and carbon ceramic brakes are for high performance use. they offer little benefit or may under-perform for street use.
 
The Boston Dangler said:
reinforced carbon carbon and carbon ceramic brakes are for high performance use. they offer little benefit or may under-perform for street use.
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I think they're similar to F1 brakes, which don't have a lot of friction until they get pretty hot. So you can either drive the car really fast or really slow, but anywhere in the middle and you're screwed.
 
LordMorpheus said:
I think they're similar to F1 brakes, which don't have a lot of friction until they get pretty hot. So you can either drive the car really fast or really slow, but anywhere in the middle and you're screwed.
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Nope, if that were the case nobody would buy them for street cars (but lots of high-end cars come with them standard or optioned). They are different materials.

The main advantage is weight reduction.
 
my buddy who's been tracking his s2000 just bought some carbotechs in april. He already cracked his rotors...ftl. Their initial bite is beastly, but man 6 months longevity on brand new rotors sucks.
 
brainhulk said:
my buddy who's been tracking his s2000 just bought some carbotechs in april. He already cracked his rotors...ftl. Their initial bite is beastly, but man 6 months longevity on brand new rotors sucks.
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race tracks will break every part of every car, regardless of cost. how many tires, clutches and diffs has he gone thru?
 
helpme said:
I crack rotors every 3 events using XP10s. Luckily spares are cheap!
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jeebus. I bought some ebc pads for something less aggressive. I'm not trying to set any time attack records. Hopefully i don't regret my decision.

Maybe i'll have to spring for a bbk and larger wheels
 
PricklyPete said:
I was always under the impression that the carbon ceramic brakes were specifically for track use because they held up to heat a lot better. What is their reasoning?
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There is a lot of problem with them delaminating and not holding up. They have found that two piece steel rotors are much more reliable and provide the same performance. I will dig up the thread if I can find it, but it was about 50 pages long over at the Ferrari forum.
 
KentState said:
There is a lot of problem with them delaminating and not holding up. They have found that two piece steel rotors are much more reliable and provide the same performance. I will dig up the thread if I can find it, but it was about 50 pages long over at the Ferrari forum.
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Very interesting. Is this across brands or just specific brands (I'd assume Brembo supplies both Ferrari and Chevy). I wonder if the Porsche brakes have the same issues...and who their supplier is.
 
brainhulk said:
jeebus. I bought some ebc pads for something less aggressive. I'm not trying to set any time attack records. Hopefully i don't regret my decision.

Maybe i'll have to spring for a bbk and larger wheels
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You certainly don't have to. Just get a dedicated set of blank rotors and high performance pads, bleed before/after track event with some decent brake fluid such as ATE Superblue or Valvoline/Prestone Synthetic. The XP series from Carbotech is great in my experience (130-70mph stops lap after lap). Inspect the rotors for cracks after each session and you will be fine.
 
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The energy required to make those definitely justifies the cost...

So who ended up clicking until they got to videos of glowing and exploding rotors?
 
Check out the Nat Geo Ultimate Factories: Bugatti, it has a great sequence of making carbon ceramic rotors as well.
 
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