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how is william hung allowed to make $ off of other ppl's songs in his CD?

for god knows what reason, my hubby got a hold of the album and he sounds like hes singing to karaoke versions/midi versions of songs. its WAYYYYY bad
 
Originally posted by: TwinkleToes77
for god knows what reason, my hubby got a hold of the album and he sounds like hes singing to karaoke versions/midi versions of songs. its WAYYYYY bad


closet William Hung fans huh?
 
Ever hear of the phrase "cover version" ?

There are standard royalty fees, you don't even have to get permission from the songwriter unless you change the lyrics, you just have to pay them through the music-publishing company.

What costs a lot of money and requires getting permission is to use the original performance in (for example) a movie. That's why TV shows used to use cheesy cover versions of songs, until the music and TV corporations meged and started using the shows to market the bands they own the souls of.
 
Originally posted by: DaveSimmons
Ever hear of the phrase "cover version" ?



There are standard royalty fees, you don't even have to get permission from the songwriter unless you change the lyrics, you just have to pay them through the music-publishing company.



What costs a lot of money and requires getting permission is to use the original performance in (for example) a movie. That's why TV shows used to use cheesy cover versions of songs, until the music and TV corporations meged and started using the shows to market the bands they own the souls of.

yup, that sums it nicely.
 
Originally posted by: Lifer
aren't they copyrighted?
is he paying royalty fees?
are they from the same record company?

I don't mean to flame anybody, but I really do not understand this post. I apologize in advance, but do you really have no concept about how Cover versions work? I am not meaning to sound sarcastic or mean, but sometimes it seems people type their message/question in and hit 'Send' before they put 'any' thought into the issue. If I had just seen the subject I would have thought that someone was being sarcastic, but the text above implies that the author has never heard of Cover versions before.

I don't get it 😕

P.S.

Originally posted by: TwinkleToes77
for god knows what reason, my hubby got a hold of the album and he sounds like hes singing to karaoke versions/midi versions of songs. its WAYYYYY bad

But he's still the best thing to come out of American Idol😀
 
Coo Coo... I never thought about the songs sung by cover bands to reduce the cost of making movies. Good point dawg.
 
Originally posted by: Dominionion

I don't mean to flame anybody, but I really do not understand this post. I apologize in advance, but do you really have no concept about how Cover versions work?

I think it's a valid question, it's one thing to sing a cover in a live concert. It's another to make a CD of just covers and profit off it. I honestly didn't know about generic royalties but it makes sense. I would have figured he needed specific approval from each label.





 
Originally posted by: TommyVercetti
Is he still popular at UC Berkley?

my cousin at berkeley got asked out at a dance by the guy and nobody likes him there anymore. some of my other friends have gone out to dinner with him. they say hes cocky in real life and he doesnt have the popularity he did before.
 
Originally posted by: LongCoolMother
Originally posted by: TommyVercetti
Is he still popular at UC Berkley?

my cousin at berkeley got asked out at a dance by the guy and nobody likes him there anymore. some of my other friends have gone out to dinner with him. they say hes cocky in real life and he doesnt have the popularity he did before.

You mean to tell me that nerd boy goes to dances and such social events? Weird.
 
I think it's a valid question, it's one thing to sing a cover in a live concert. It's another to make a CD of just covers and profit off it.

That is amazingly wrong. There is a whole genre of 'Tribute' albums by small labels/bands.

It's another to make a CD of just covers and profit off it. I honestly didn't know about generic royalties but it makes sense. I would have figured he needed specific approval from each label.

??!!! 😕

Paul McCartney did it. John Lennon did it. And neither case was for charity. Guess what, William Shatner didn't write all the songs on his album. Its not un-usual for artist to not have written their own songs... Do you think that Frank Sinatra wrote his own songs?

My original statement stands. I still find it hard to believe that someone could be so out of it as to think of Cover Versions as something unique.

 
Originally posted by: DaveSimmons
Ever hear of the phrase "cover version" ?



There are standard royalty fees, you don't even have to get permission from the songwriter unless you change the lyrics, you just have to pay them through the music-publishing company.



What costs a lot of money and requires getting permission is to use the original performance in (for example) a movie. That's why TV shows used to use cheesy cover versions of songs, until the music and TV corporations meged and started using the shows to market the bands they own the souls of.

To further this topic just a bit.... It's possible that the originbal artist sold their rights at the outset and subsequently doesn't receive much in the way of royalties. This is when the Orifginal Artist will re-record the song specifically for the person / company asking for fair use. This is how DEVO is able to re-record Whip It for a target ad and get paid. This is very common.
Parodies are another matter, entirely. Pay the Basic Copyright fee, change the lyrics, and off you go to the pressing plant with impunity.
 
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