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Nebor

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And I suppose you've never pirated anything in your life? Let's be real here...

I pay for PowerDVD. Nearly $100 per copy. Everytime a new one comes out. And it never works right, and it always pisses me off. I have a Zune pass for music. I don't have Photoshop because it costs too much. I'm a moral crusader. My horse is pretty freaking high.
 

nboy22

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I pay for PowerDVD. Nearly $100 per copy. Everytime a new one comes out. And it never works right, and it always pisses me off. I have a Zune pass for music. I don't have Photoshop because it costs too much. I'm a moral crusader. My horse is pretty freaking high.

Ok, but you're saying during the course of your whole lifetime you've never pirated 1 single product? Whether it be music, movies, games, applications?
 

Nik

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j/k about being a pirate or j/k about losing the weight? :D

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Nah, all the shit I used to pirate I don't even use anymore so there's no point. Really, who needs a full version of Maya and Lightwave and all of that crap? It's not like I'm smart enough to DO anything with it anyway.

I used to pirate games a lot. I didn't like the stupid demo that wouldn't really give you a feel for the game, so I'd pirate the game and play it. If I liked it, I'd go buy it. Yes, people are going to call me a liar for that but I don't really give a fuck if they don't believe me. I still have a big black CD binder full of retail CD's for the games I pirated and liked enough to finish/buy. If I didn't like it, I just quit playing it and uninstalled it. Demos are almost ever EVER an honest representation of the entire package and, to me, selling something overpriced that isn't what you sold the customer on it being is significantly more dishonest than not paying for a shit game.

I'm stuck on MMO's and have been for ages. No reason to pirate anything. A 2 week trial is more than enough time for me to decide whether I like it and even then I don't mind paying $15/month for years and years (way more than your stupid $60 for a piece of shit 8 hour pile of garbage, are you listening shitty-game-developers?) for a good game.

World of Tanks is in closed beta right now and it's FREAKING SWEET.
 

Nebor

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Ok, but you're saying during the course of your whole lifetime you've never pirated 1 single product? Whether it be music, movies, games, applications?

You say that like it's some incredible feat. The internet has only been around for like 5 years; how did people even pirate things before that?
 

Nik

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You say that like it's some incredible feat. The internet has only been around for like 5 years; how did people even pirate things before that?

Pretty easily. Games back in the 80's would have, as an example, 30 pages of random words in the game's user manual. Each time you start the game up, it'll ask you for Page x, line x, word #x. You'd have to get the manual and look it up in order to play.

It was cake to throw in a blank floppy and copy the game for your neighbor.

However, the book made it slightly more difficult. Well, what's stopping someone from photocopying 30 pages of random words and including it with the pirated floppy? Those pages were printed on very dark gray paper so copy machines would spit out solid black pages instead of copies of the book. :awe:

Mofuckas was smart back inna day!

Oh wait, all it took was someone taking 15 minutes to open Notepad and type them all out, THEN print it.

DOH.
 
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Nik

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God I love OSX.

You know what I like best about OSX? I like how it installs key OS components to the same location every time. Anyone who wants to create a virus for a mac will know exactly where to point their tools with ease.

I hate that windbows has been randomizing those installation locations for decades, making it harder for buttheads to make viruses. How dare Microsoft be so smart!

o_O
 

nboy22

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You say that like it's some incredible feat. The internet has only been around for like 5 years; how did people even pirate things before that?

I'm just taking into consideration that the only people I've ever met that haven't pirated anything are usually tech-challenged and/or old and don't want to keep up with the times.

Even my friends that know nothing about computers and can hardly operate one have at least managed to download 1 illegal MP3.

I certainly don't think it's an impossible feat, but I also think that for someone like you (assuming you're a regular computer user, looking at your previous posts) there is a higher possibility that you have at least once in your lifetime downloaded an illegal mp3 or something simple like that.

Just saying that the majority of computer users that are regular have at least downloaded 1 illegal thing at some point in their life. Hopefully we can reach an agreement there.
 

nboy22

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Pretty easily. Games back in the 80's would have, as an example, 30 pages of random words in the game's user manual. Each time you start the game up, it'll ask you for Page x, line x, word #x. You'd have to get the manual and look it up in order to play.

It was cake to throw in a blank floppy and copy the game for your neighbor.

However, the book made it slightly more difficult. Well, what's stopping someone from photocopying 30 pages of random words and including it with the pirated floppy? Those pages were printed on very dark gray paper so copy machines would spit out solid black pages instead of copies of the book. :awe:

Mofuckas was smart back inna day!

Oh wait, all it took was someone taking 15 minutes to open Notepad and type them all out, THEN print it.

DOH.

Couldn't agree more.. Even back in 56k days when CD burners came out almost everyone I know hopped on the pirate bandwagon and would copy CDs from friends.
 

dabuddha

Lifer
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Pretty easily. Games back in the 80's would have, as an example, 30 pages of random words in the game's user manual. Each time you start the game up, it'll ask you for Page x, line x, word #x. You'd have to get the manual and look it up in order to play.

It was cake to throw in a blank floppy and copy the game for your neighbor.

However, the book made it slightly more difficult. Well, what's stopping someone from photocopying 30 pages of random words and including it with the pirated floppy? Those pages were printed on very dark gray paper so copy machines would spit out solid black pages instead of copies of the book. :awe:

Mofuckas was smart back inna day!

Oh wait, all it took was someone taking 15 minutes to open Notepad and type them all out, THEN print it.

DOH.

I love Leisure Suit Larry's "copy protection" :D
 

fire400

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I'm just taking into consideration that the only people I've ever met that haven't pirated anything are usually tech-challenged and/or old and don't want to keep up with the times.

Even my friends that know nothing about computers and can hardly operate one have at least managed to download 1 illegal MP3.

I certainly don't think it's an impossible feat, but I also think that for someone like you (assuming you're a regular computer user, looking at your previous posts) there is a higher possibility that you have at least once in your lifetime downloaded an illegal mp3 or something simple like that.

Just saying that the majority of computer users that are regular have at least downloaded 1 illegal thing at some point in their life. Hopefully we can reach an agreement there.

cliff notes: problem. statement. your personal sociology study.

feedback: _laff-out-loud_
 

Matt_Stevens

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why would you pay $35 for a hacked copy of win7 that wont last a month before its blocked, so freaking stupid just shell out the extra money and get your own copy or go free and try to hack it yourself.

Well, I wouldn't and I won't. I was just curious as to how this was all possible and now, because of this thread, I know. So in the end, these guys will get caught.

It's amazing how far people will go to crack software and not pay the high prices, but then again, I truly do believe that if many of these programs were much cheaper, there would be no need. I would buy CS5 if it were $99.

Office 2003 will remain my tool of choice for likely forever because I am not paying to upgrade it. Too expensive.

As for Windows 7, the wife wants an iMac and with bootcamp available, we will be getting windows. That is where a student ID comes in handy.
 

pmv

Lifer
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You say that like it's some incredible feat. The internet has only been around for like 5 years; how did people even pirate things before that?

This is sarcasm/irony right? And I'm falling into the trap?

Oh well. First off, "the internet" has been around for at least 20 years, Can't be bothered to use wiki but I remember first encountering it in 1990.

And the second point surely _has_ to be irony? Have you never heard the phrase 'home taping is killing music'? (though, funnily enough, music is still alive). Never made a tape-to-tape copy of an 8-bit computer game? Never used a VCR to record something off the TV?

But thanks for making me feel really really old! ("But grandad, how did anyone pirate anything before the internet?" "How did anyone talk to anyone else before the cellphone was invented?" "How did anyone listen to music before mp3 players were invented?")
 
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dainthomas

Lifer
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I pay for PowerDVD. Nearly $100 per copy. Everytime a new one comes out. And it never works right, and it always pisses me off. I have a Zune pass for music. I don't have Photoshop because it costs too much. I'm a moral crusader. My horse is pretty freaking high.

You never made a mix tape? Your horse must be stratospheric!

And who pays $100 for PowerDVD? It plays DVDs, and comes with any $20 DVD drive. What's the extra $80 for?
 

secretanchitman

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You never made a mix tape? Your horse must be stratospheric!

And who pays $100 for PowerDVD? It plays DVDs, and comes with any $20 DVD drive. What's the extra $80 for?

lol i was just about to post this. i get it if this was many years ago though. media player classic and vlc with the combined community codec pack plays just about anything for me.
 

Nebor

Lifer
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lol i was just about to post this. i get it if this was many years ago though. media player classic and vlc with the combined community codec pack plays just about anything for me.

To play Blu-ray discs you have to buy one of the big three software DVD players.