How is Target any less evil than Walmart?

swbsam

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Many people out there, especially here in hippy NYC, seem to consider Walmart "evil" and refuse to shop there, yet have no problem shopping at Target..

What's the logic there? Is there something about Target that I don't know, or are they just another big-box retailer?
 

nakedfrog

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Target shoppers look down on Wal-mart shoppers, Wal-mart shoppers look down on K-Mart shoppers, K-mart shoppers look down on... I dunno, homeless people?
 

OCGuy

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Walmart is great, because it keeps those people out of the good stores.
 

Papagayo

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Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Target shoppers look down on Wal-mart shoppers, Wal-mart shoppers look down on K-Mart shoppers, K-mart shoppers look down on... I dunno, homeless people?

goodwill
 

MrChad

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They aren't. Wal-Mart generally has the big political target on its back because it's number 1.
 

zinfamous

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Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Target shoppers look down on Wal-mart shoppers, Wal-mart shoppers look down on K-Mart shoppers, K-mart shoppers look down on... [I dunno, homeless people?]

[Big Lots!]

 

Maximus96

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in my area, walmart is more ghetto, but have slightly better prices. i have no problems going to walmart, but my wife prefers target
 

Crono

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Don't call my town hippy.
Hippy NYC dislikes Walmart because it's simply huge. Is it really "evil"? In certain cases or from a certain perspective, sure. It's not any different than any corporation, though. I don't see Target as being any better.
Target is supposedly "classier" than Walmart, but that has nothing to do with good/evil, but rather demographics and marketing.
 

Miramonti

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Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Target shoppers look down on Wal-mart shoppers, Wal-mart shoppers look down on K-Mart shoppers, K-mart shoppers look down on... I dunno, homeless people?

Also known as self-reflection.

 

Miramonti

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Originally posted by: zinfamous
Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Target shoppers look down on Wal-mart shoppers, Wal-mart shoppers look down on K-Mart shoppers, K-mart shoppers look down on... [I dunno, homeless people?]

[Big Lots!]

I love Big Lots.
 

Maximus96

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Originally posted by: zinfamous
Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Target shoppers look down on Wal-mart shoppers, Wal-mart shoppers look down on K-Mart shoppers, K-mart shoppers look down on... [I dunno, homeless people?]

[Big Lots!]

Big Lots shoppers look down on Dollar-Tree shoppers
 

Ns1

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I don't find walmart evil, just shitty. How shitty your walmart is is inversely proportional to the median income of its community.
 

PepePeru

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they supposedly treat their employees better.
a lot of is marketing.

however, shopping at target is usually a more pleasant experience than shopping @ W*M. I hate hate hate going to the Supercenter, its a surefire way to make my blood pressure go sky high.

Saving .20 on toilet paper isn't worth it.
 

TwiceOver

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They are pretty equal. The only difference is that everything Target sells when it comes to clothing and household murchandise is ugly as Lady Gaga.

My wife came home the other day with a new Slingbag/Purse contraption. It was a dark brown with ugly ass fake 70's "Love" patches and that kinda shit.

First words out of my mount "Got that at Target eh?"

 

dainthomas

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Originally posted by: her209
I've been to nice Walmarts and ghetto Targets.

I can't say I've ever been to a ghetto Target. I've only been in a few walmarts (because there aren't any in our area) and they were definitely unpleasant.

Both stores stock the same Made-in-China type junk, but I think Target treats their workers a little better. At least they're not always getting busted for overtime violations and whatnot.
 

nakedfrog

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Originally posted by: zinfamous
Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Target shoppers look down on Wal-mart shoppers, Wal-mart shoppers look down on K-Mart shoppers, K-mart shoppers look down on... [I dunno, homeless people?]

[Big Lots!]

Or maybe Piggly Wiggly.
 

BeauJangles

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Originally posted by: dainthomas
Originally posted by: her209
I've been to nice Walmarts and ghetto Targets.

I can't say I've ever been to a ghetto Target. I've only been in a few walmarts (because there aren't any in our area) and they were definitely unpleasant.

Both stores stock the same Made-in-China type junk, but I think Target treats their workers a little better. At least they're not always getting busted for overtime violations and whatnot.

Every Target I've been to is clean, has nice wide aisles, and it looks like someone gives a shit about keeping the place clean and organized. The few Walmarts I've been to have all been disgusting and cramped. Their merchandise looks like it's organized by a tornado.
 

SuperSix

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I orefer Target because it's cleaner, and the employees are more helpful, (and plentiful).

I never have to wait long at all the check out, unlike WalMart.

I don't mind paying a bit more to be treat as a customer, and not a number.
 

InflatableBuddha

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Watch Walmart: The High Cost of Low Price for reasons why WalMart is evil.

Cliffs:

WalMart:
Pays lower wages than other big box retailers.
Refuses to allow many employees to attain full-time status.
Cheaps out on heath care and benefits, instead relying on state and federal programs to support its workers
Obtains free grants/incentives from local governments to set up shop, to offset land, zoning and road costs, etc. Local businesses do not get preferential treatment.
Drives out local businesses, causing unemployment.
Has set up in towns and then left shortly after before repaying loans, etc.
Disallows unions.
Is discriminatory in its employee advancement practices (e.g. glass ceiling for women)
Imposes censorship on media products (music, movies, print) it sells.

Essentially, Wal-Mart is heavily subsidized by local, state and federal governments, which is one of the reasons it can offer such low prices.

These concerns are in addition to the common complaints leveled at big-box stores - environmental concerns, traffic and vehicle use, supporting abusive suppliers in developing countries (e.g. China).

I don't know if Target is involved in any of the specific practices I mentioned, but I can tell you that, for example, Costco is a big-box retailer which is not guilty of those Wal-Mart specific practices - only the basic problems with big box retailers.
 

SearchMaster

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I read a book called "The Wal-Mart Effect" that outlines some of the business practices of Wal-Mart. They've done some good things and some bad but they unquestionably have driven down prices.
 

MrChad

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Originally posted by: InflatableBuddha
Watch Walmart: The High Cost of Low Price for reasons why WalMart is evil.

Cliffs:

WalMart:
Pays lower wages than other big box retailers.
Refuses to allow many employees to attain full-time status.
Cheaps out on heath care and benefits, instead relying on state and federal programs to support its workers
Obtains free grants/incentives from local governments to set up shop, to offset land, zoning and road costs, etc. Local businesses do not get preferential treatment.
Drives out local businesses, causing unemployment.
Has set up in towns and then left shortly after before repaying loans, etc.
Disallows unions.
Is discriminatory in its employee advancement practices (e.g. glass ceiling for women)
Imposes censorship on media products (music, movies, print) it sells.

Essentially, Wal-Mart is heavily subsidized by local, state and federal governments, which is one of the reasons it can offer such low prices.

These concerns are in addition to the common complaints leveled at big-box stores - environmental concerns, traffic and vehicle use, supporting abusive suppliers in developing countries (e.g. China).

I don't know if Target is involved in any of the specific practices I mentioned, but I can tell you that, for example, Costco is a big-box retailer which is not guilty of those Wal-Mart specific practices - only the basic problems with big box retailers.

You forgot "creates thousands of jobs in towns all over the country" and "lowers the cost of living for millions of consumers by offering lower prices on everyday goods".