How is MSI supporting Sempron on the 970 chipset?

[vicky.new.geek]

Hello all,

I am not building a new PC, was just going through the specs of a few motherboards on MSI website and came accross:

http://www.msi.com/product/mb/970A-G45.html#/?div=Detail

It says that it supports Sempron CPU in AM3 / AM3+ package. Also, it says that the motherboard has AMD 970 as the socket. On the other hand, AMD on its official page: http://www.amd.com/us/products/desktop/chipsets/9-series-integrated/Pages/amd-970-chipset.aspx does not mention Sempron as a support series.

They also offer a results file. (I am on Linux and the software they are providing is for Windows so I dont know how to use it). So how is MSI supporting Sempron if it is not officially supported by AMD?

 

[VirtualLarry]

As long as the Sempron CPU is an AM3/AM3+ CPU, then it should be supported.

I'm guessing that the only reason that AMD didn't explicitly list Sempron CPUs, is because they are no longer making them. (?)

Or perhaps it was just a mistaken omission on AMD's part.

 

[Charles Kozierok]

Chipset makers often do not list all the chips their products will support. The list is mostly for marketing reasons.

If the board says it will support the chip, you're fine.

 

[Idontcare]

Welcome to the forums vicky.new.geek :thumbsup:

What matters is what the business making the claim will do in the event their claim is wrong.

Since MSI is the business claiming their product supports Sempron, then it behooves you to email or livechat their tech support team to make sure it is not a misprint in their documentation.

It probably is not a misprint, but it is effortless to confirm for sure.

AMD likely doesn't list it in their documents because they have to pay someone to update those documents and they don't recoup that expense easily. So less internal pressure exists to have all those documents double-checked.

MSI makes money if their docs are right, it convinces customers to buy their mobo versus their competitors, so the internal pressure exists to get the document right.

 

[borisvodofsky]

Welcome to the forums vicky.new.geek :thumbsup:

What matters is what the business making the claim will do in the event their claim is wrong.

Since MSI is the business claiming their product supports Sempron, then it behooves you to email or livechat their tech support team to make sure it is not a misprint in their documentation.

It probably is not a misprint, but it is effortless to confirm for sure.

AMD likely doesn't list it in their documents because they have to pay someone to update those documents and they don't recoup that expense easily. So less internal pressure exists to have all those documents double-checked.

MSI makes money if their docs are right, it convinces customers to buy their mobo versus their competitors, so the internal pressure exists to get the document right.

LOL, i see you're quick to pounce as it looks like a girl's name, "vicky" although, this being the internet, it's probably a guy

 

[Rvenger]

LOL, i see you're quick to pounce as it looks like a girl's name, "vicky" although, this being the internet, it's probably a guy

cmon

 

[alyarb]

Sempron is the name given to the single-core 45nm K10 devices. The package is AM3.

The board in question uses the AMD970 chipset, and has an AM3+ socket. The chipset naming convention has nothing to do with the number of pins in the package.

There are about ~940 pins in this socket. There has never been a socket with 970 pins.


As a general rule of thumb with motherboards and CPUs, it's always best to look at the official CPU support list for that board, rather than a general spec sheet:

http://www.msi.com/product/mb/970A-G45.html#/?div=CPUSupport

Here's an example of one of the Semprons compatible with the board:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...ogle-_-Processors+-+Desktops-_-AMD-_-19103944

 

[infoiltrator]

UM, I do not see the Semperon 130 listed, just the 140/145 models. I think the Regor chips (180/190) are locked dual core chips.
I think some 140/145 can successfully unlock to dual cores, sometimes.

 

[Idontcare]

LOL, i see you're quick to pounce as it looks like a girl's name, "vicky" although, this being the internet, it's probably a guy

Probably? I'm counting on it

Seriously though do a search for me with the phrase "welcome to forums"...I try and give a welcome post to all new members when I come across them in the forums. Whats wrong with being nice to folks?

 

[nenforcer]

I bet it also supports the OEM only Sempron 150 2.9GHz for all of my fellow single core warriors!