How is iraq the bigger threat?

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chambersc

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Originally posted by: TheSiege
Originally posted by: chambersc
Originally posted by: TheSiege
im talking on a global scale, look at their human rights. more people are killed/tortured/mistreated by china then any terrorst group.

There are no such thing as objective human rights. If China wants to kill its citizens then ...

i really hope you are joking

I can see the obvious reason why you would think I'm joking why what if I wasn't? What rational problem would you have with it?
 

xSkyDrAx

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Yea, let's go invade them doesn't look like they'll put up much of a fight y'know :p totally feasible ;)
 

vulcanman

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Iraq has oil ... we invade.

China give us cheap things we buy (and keep buying to replace the one that just broke) ... why invade ?

My secretary thinks that Chinese food is good ... and its not ok to be mean to them. She is ok with us invading Iraq since they hate us. But she also drives a big truck ... smokes two packs a day ... wears the latest designer clothing ... and pays off her credit card in installments ... and she brings her lunch from home to save $$. I need more like her.

I think China will invade the US ... they have already started sending each other messages through fortune cookies ... cuz they know we stopped believing in those things long ago.


 

DanTMWTMP

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organ transplants? whocares? my dad's close friend's life was saved from a prisoner's organ in China. My dad's friend lives in Shanghai. He's a very cool guy, and gives back to the community.
low life prisonners deserve no human rights, and people who live honest lives deserve their organs to live out their lives. I have no problem w/ that hidden camera documentary.

In fact, US should get the death penalty rolling, and start harvesting organs. how many innocent lives are lost each year, waiting for organs while on the damn organ transplant list?!?!

China has less deliberation, and their punishments makes a lot more sense then the loophole ridden, time-wasting-delibertations, and frivolous-lawsiute-heavenness of the US justice system.

<--- i am not chinese btw...

If a county has that many people to spare, human rights for prisoners should be the LEAST of their worries.
 
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Originally posted by: yllus
Yeah, that's brilliant. Iraq's 14 million people have posed no problem, let's go for the 1 billion plus of China instead.

Well, we're not going to occupy them.
 

Zebo

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Originally posted by: TheSiege
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ive said it time and time again, china poses the biggest threat to man kind

WTF are you talking about these are prisoners.. Muzzies slaughter lambs and in far higher numbers in pursuit of the Umma. Every conflcit and genocide in the world right now is Muzzie from Darfur to indonesia to Southern Thailand.

China might be the only ones in the world self aware and self confident and un-PC enough to save the world from Muslim hoards. South Asia finished, India too, Eurarbia is finsihed - will live uder sharia law soon due to demograophic conquest and childless europeans. USA is probably finished too as Bush fails to recognise the threat and instead calling it "the religion of peace" and allow potential terrorists in droves both accross southern border and directly from Saudi Etc.

Han Chinese won't toletate that. Mass exterminations if they dare fusk with China.. Gooo China! You might be humanities only hope.

 

Mo0o

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Who's going to invade China?

As far as organ transplants go, I wonder how far you'd go to save the life of a loved. If you know some murderer in China has a liver that can potentially save your father, would you shell oue $3000 for one?
 

GoodRevrnd

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I think it's perfectly understandable to see the benefit of using executed prisoner organs. You can take a western standpoint all you want and argue how it violates the individual's rights, but you could make an equally strong argument how a prisoner has done something that merits removal of their rights (imprisonment itself is a removal of rights) or simply how the organs being involuntarily donated serve a greater societal good. The bigger problem is how liberally China hands out executions and if the organ trade is a vessel that fuels the trade itself.

 

josh6079

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I've seen what happens to people who are in need of organs first hand. I knew a patient that couldn't get a liver he needed and suffered to his death. Everyone who has the ability to donate a healthy organ should, even if they didn't break the law to begin with. When you die, your rights die too IMO.

Has anyone ever read the book, "Johnny Got His Gun"? Many people see it as an anti-war novel, but it goes beyond that. In the book, the main character, Johnny, gets hit with a mortar and miraculously lives. The doctors at the station were all thrilled and proud that they could save a human life that was so close to death. They saved him, but he no longer had a face, arms, legs, mouth, his reproductive organ, etc. He was simply a torso of flesh with a neck upholding the flesh that contained his brain. He couldn't talk, taste, smell, see, hear...all he could do was feel his torso against the sheets and move his faceless head a little. Finally, he discovered that he could bang his head against the wall/bed rest and communicate in Morse code, "S.O.S." A knowledgable nurse recognized the attempt and responded likewise by tapping his body. He eventually asked for them to kill him. The nurse asked the doctors and they told him that it wasn't in their policy; they weren't going to let him die.

Sorry for the book summary, just hearing about those transplants made me think of it for some reason--completely unrelated I know. But with how many people need transplants, stem-cell research pushing the boundries of medicine, etc. I can begin to understand why some people are so edgy about how people are saving lives. Sometimes death ends suffering, sometimes preventing death and saving life ends it.
 

JSFLY

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If they want to use organs from executed prisoners, then that poses a threat to the world?

"China executes more people than the the rest of the world combined each year"

I would too, If I were the leader of a country that is overpopulated with 1 billion people.

 

wetcat007

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uh do you have any idea what the death toll on both sides would be if we went to war with china
 

sao123

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The US military and domestic police force could not defeat china...
but if something big is really at stake... all we need to do is empty the prisons.
Send in the Mafia... they get the job done.