How is centralized vaccination policy a net benefit to society?

[poofyhairguy]

Makes sense, I think rural communities are a good place to raise children.

 

[Joepublic2]

I'm all about anti-vaxers having their own country. We'll put it on an island, call it Cho Le Ra and let nature take its course.

 

[Anarchist420]

I'm all about anti-vaxers having their own country. We'll put it on an island, call it Cho Le Ra and let nature take its course.

force is not natural.

if you really are that afraid of "anti-vaxers" that you want to spend resources that aren't yours to force people out of their natural homes then there is something terribly wrong with you.

people who value security over liberty will lose both.

 

[Brainonska511]

force is not natural.

if you really are that afraid of "anti-vaxers" that you want to spend resources that aren't yours to force people out of their natural homes then there is something terribly wrong with you.

people who value security over liberty will lose both.

People who value liberty so much that they destroy the state will also lose their liberty. As Hobbes wrote in the Leviathan, to be in a state of nature is to be in a constant state of war - it's a survival of the fittest and the weaker will be subjugated by the strong.

 

[Anarchist420]

People who value liberty so much that they destroy the state will also lose their liberty. As Hobbes wrote in the Leviathan, to be in a state of nature is to be in a constant state of war - it's a survival of the fittest and the weaker will be subjugated by the strong.

I don't want to destroy the State because I know that anyone who can initiate violence against centralists can only replace the old order with new centralization.

But I do want to be far away from all enforcement of centralism as long as i am alive. It is definitley going to get worse in the U.S. And it's okay if some may have forgotten I knew that communist revolutions always become monarcho-isolationism.

Also, I have realized that a 2nd confederation isn't going to happen in any of these States involuntarily united though because the current ruling class will never give up its power voluntarily and because violent revolutionaries yield centralization unlike independent secession.

to illustrate my point:
the CSA lost because Davis sent too many uniform signals that were not always right, he had to keep changing them.

But if Alexander Hamilton Stevens had been president, Lincoln and the Union would've lost big time, but then he would've been too tyrannical and any treaty would've been too binding to both sides. If the States that had seceded had just formed a confederation,they could've kept slavery partially and the southerners could've, would've, and should've preserved their independence that way.

The northerners needed uniform signals and they won the war because lincoln was a traditionalist far-right anti-democrat who was much more principled and stubborn (at least during the war) than davis was. The average Southerner was smarter(the northern Neo-Republican leaders were not capable of independently acting in their own self-interest as they wanted to rape the south for revenue when half of their subjects hated the factories and the businessmen) and when any smart people are in a confederation, everyone in the confederation is successfully defended... it doesn't matter how outnumbered they are.

Anyway, Lincoln would've made hitler and hamilton proud. lincoln extended and totally nationalized hamilton's curse and lincoln was the bismarck's contemporary other half (hitler loved otto von bismarck). the wilsonians under FDR went on to globalize lincoln's curse and that only happened because the Neo-Republicans in power before FDR were isolationists (i.e., their beliefs were based on nationalism like those of J Raimondo, David Duke, and P Buchanan although there are some differences between each of those 3 men) rather than non-interventionists (altruistic like Ron Paul and pro-independence/altruistic like Murray Rothbard, and simply pro-independent democracy like Thomas Jefferson).