How high can the G3258 overclock on Stock Cooler?

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john5220

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^ thanks

And how long would it last on that speed? assuming it will be running on load for 6 hours a day gaming. Sometimes 0 hours a day gaming.
Could I get a 5 year lifespan out of it?

Can the OC be done from desktop with 1 click? or from Bios?

If you have to OC it from Bios I would prefer leave it stuck at the OC speed.
 
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The max on stock cooler is probably a function of the voltage to get you there. If you win the silicon lottery and get a great CPU that can hit 4.2+ on stock VID, the stock cooler might suffice. If you don't get such a golden sample, I would agree with the above poster that just over 4Ghz is probably what you can expect.

Get a nice cheap 212+ (used or on-sale) and problem solved. :)
 
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john5220 said:
^ thanks

And how long would it last on that speed? assuming it will be running on load for 6 hours a day gaming. Sometimes 0 hours a day gaming.
Could I get a 5 year lifespan out of it?

Can the OC be done from desktop with 1 click? or from Bios?

If you have to OC it from Bios I would prefer leave it stuck at the OC speed.
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The method for OCing will depend on the MB brand/type. I may be biased, but I prefer BIOS for overclocking. The time to make sure the OC is stable is generally a lot more time than making the actual adjustment. I would suggest IDC's sticky for validating the stability of the OC, otherwise you could be setting yourself up for some serious issues down the road.

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2195063
 
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My estimate is that, with stock voltage @ 4.1-4.2, it should last a few decades. Even heavily overclocked and overvolted CPUs generally outlive their useful lifespans.
 
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I built one that runs at 4.4GHz and another that runs at 4.5GHz. They been running hard for about 3 months now. They do get hot, like over 90C, but since we're not running any AVX code, they do not throttle. The stock cooler on mine has kind of an annoying whir. Since my pc also doubles as an HTPC, I have a button that downclocks to 93% which I use if I'm watching a movie and there is something demanding running in the background. So basically in my experience you will be limited to about 4.1GHz if you want it to be acceptably quiet under full load. There is a huge power consumption difference between 4.1 and 4.4GHz.
 
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Won't last long for gaming. Every AAA game coming out this month has quads for both minimum and recommended. Even Raven's Cry and that is barely "A".
 
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This topic might have some good info on non z overclocking with the pentium.
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2389948

Anyway, with my cpu I could do 4.5 on the stock cooler, but results may vary, some pentiums go to 4.9, others have a hard time hitting 4.

Unless you do some very high voltage and temperature overclock your cpu should easily make 5 years.
 
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My G3258 peaks in the low 80s doing Prime95 Small FFT at 4.4 GHz on the stock cooler at 1.18V vcore, though if I run it at 4.2 GHz on 1.1V it's way cooler (peaks about 71C or so but mostly runs mid 60s on long Prime95 stress tests). From what I have read my G3258 seems to be better than average. If you're going to spend $70 on the Pentium G3258 and $30 on the cooler you might as well just spend $20 more and get an i3-4150 though.
 
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SteveGrabowski said:
My G3258 peaks in the low 80s doing Prime95 Small FFT at 4.4 GHz on the stock cooler at 1.18V vcore, though if I run it at 4.2 GHz on 1.1V it's way cooler (peaks about 71C or so but mostly runs mid 60s on long Prime95 stress tests). From what I have read my G3258 seems to be better than average. If you're going to spend $70 on the Pentium G3258 and $30 on the cooler you might as well just spend $20 more and get an i3-4150 though.
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yeah I have actually concluded that without a doubt the i3 4150 for $109 is without a doubt the best bet for me plus its a quad core.
And I already have a mainboard and I can sell back my pentium G3220 for maybe $45 used. Hell if I get $40 for it then that means I paid only $70 for the i3 technically.

It beats quad core AMD in 4 threaded apps anyways and beats 8 core AMD in battlefield 4 which uses 6 threads so who cares if its 2 physical cores?

I am really wondering why intel even bothers to call the i3 a dual core, it performs and looks and acts like a quad core. They should just call it a quad core even if 2 cores are not physical
 
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john5220 said:
yeah I have actually concluded that without a doubt the i3 4150 for $109 is without a doubt the best bet for me plus its a quad core.
And I already have a mainboard and I can sell back my pentium G3220 for maybe $45 used. Hell if I get $40 for it then that means I paid only $70 for the i3 technically.

It beats quad core AMD in 4 threaded apps anyways and beats 8 core AMD in battlefield 4 which uses 6 threads so who cares if its 2 physical cores?
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The i3's are dual cores, but have four threads. So they'll excel on dual core games with light processing on third and fourth threads, but a parallelized game like Crysis 3 will bring an i3 to its knees, as HT seems to only be worth 30% of a true core at best. If you want quad core you gotta go i5 or better.
 
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^ it seems like a lot of hassel to save some bucks. Since I already have a 1150 mainboard will sell my G3220 and buy the i3 4150.

I will end up in reality only paying $70 for a i3 if you think about it. I was trying to save money and salvage this mainboard and CPU but it isn't worth it honestly. Plus I think the i3 might perform better later on in games that demand 4 cores.

I think Crysis 3 is a bad game and bad design. Battlefield 4 performs same speed on 64 player servers with a i3 than it does with 8 core AMD infact the i3 is faster than the 8 core AMD

But the pentium G is horrid
 
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john5220 said:
^ it seems like a lot of hassel to save some bucks. Since I already have a 1150 mainboard will sell my G3220 and buy the i3 4150.

I will end up in reality only paying $70 for a i3 if you think about it. I was trying to save money and salvage this mainboard and CPU but it isn't worth it honestly. Plus I think the i3 might perform better later on in games that demand 4 cores.
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You think you'll get $45 for your G3220? I hope I can get that much when I put my G3258 up on ebay in a month or two when I put a quad core in my system. But for the combo deal I got it'll be nothing but profit after $15 anyways.
 
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Crysis 3 is such a badly optimized game wow I am glad I don't play those kind of games

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SteveGrabowski said:
You think you'll get $45 for your G3220? I hope I can get that much when I put my G3258 up on ebay in a month or two when I put a quad core in my system.
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I live in the Caribbean so I will be able to get that much locally because CPU endure 15% VAT when it is cleared by customs so its still a much better deal to buy my G3220 for $40 than ship a new one for $55 and pay tax and international shipping

For the least I will get nothing less than $35 I am positive about that.

For example you can get a Athlon II X2 used for about $30 locally
 
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I don't see much reason to sell your current 1150 board to buy another. An i3 isn't overclockable, so one board should be as good as another. Use that money to buy a better chip.
 
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Mines at 4.2 on a stock cooler as well on ~1.1v I think. I delidded it for the hell of it and now it hits its max temp at about 75 rather than throttling like it did before the delid. I run the fan at quiet so you could probably also get it a reasonable amount higher if you're willing to sacrifice noise for temps. I haven't tinkered around after the delid though so who knows how high I'll get it. I think the main point is though that if you can spare a few extra bucks, an i3 is the way to go. You won't have to worry about temps, overclocking, or an aftermarket cooler (unless you absolutely need it to be cool and/or quiet).
 
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Seeing that things have changed. And I am getting rid of my current system and getting back every cent I paid for it I am considering going either FX 6300 or Unlocked Pentium G

what you guys think? its for gaming multi player online

from youtube videos it seems like the OC pentium G AE plays BF4 at speeds of a FX 6300 AMD
 
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As has been previously pointed out in many of your redundant threads, MINIMUM CPU should be an i3 (2 cores hyper threaded), or a 4 core i5..
 
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