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How good is the encryption on military satellites?

RESmonkey

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I knew it.. Rubycon isn't a person, she's/it's an advanced AI database who is now trying to pull a skynet and break into places she's not supposed to be.


quick, pull her off the power grid before it's too late, lol
 

HannibalX

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Pretty good from what I've been told. My old boss managed intelligence sats for USAF before getting into commercial IT work. He had some cool stories. :)
 

Rubycon

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I knew it.. Rubycon isn't a person, she's/it's an advanced AI database who is now trying to pull a skynet and break into places she's not supposed to be.


quick, pull her off the power grid before it's too late, lol

Haha very funny. (not on the power grid btw!) :D

We all know how widespread malware is. Fortunately it's easy to find because the coding is dumb and your system basically tells you it's there! What if someone decided to make it 100% surreptitious?

As we know a single PC is fairly powerful but millions of them swamp the most powerful supercomputer. The bad guys cannot afford a supercomputer but programmers are cheap...

So (hypothetically speaking here!) what if the popular software (F@H, SETI, etc.) was altered so the "work" was actually breaking codes and third parties were able to have their own pen register of sorts to top secret military communication? That's kind of scary.

The movies are too predictable (Transformers 2) with their cute little alien incarnations "worming" around a satellite!

So the government is too concerned with kids downloading movies and music while the malware problem continues (albeit at great costs to IT!) and COULD actually get intelligent and do real damage. Look at what botnets are doing already. Think it's going to get any better?

You'd think they would mandate the ISPs to start filtering this stuff out or at least blacklist all the domains in their DNS farms.
 

SunSamurai

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You labor under the pretense that our government is competent.

What keeps us safe, is that other governments either don't care, have better, or are even more incompetent.
 

IronWing

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Jul 20, 2001
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Okay, I looked into it. The military doesn't encrypt at all. They just use atrocious spelling and grammar that would make ATOT blush.
 

IronWing

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You labor under the pretense that our government is competent.

What keeps us safe, is that other governments either don't care, have better, or are even more incompetent.

Bureaucratic inefficiency is the last bastion of freedom.
 

MagnusTheBrewer

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Haha very funny. (not on the power grid btw!) :D

We all know how widespread malware is. Fortunately it's easy to find because the coding is dumb and your system basically tells you it's there! What if someone decided to make it 100% surreptitious?

As we know a single PC is fairly powerful but millions of them swamp the most powerful supercomputer. The bad guys cannot afford a supercomputer but programmers are cheap...

So (hypothetically speaking here!) what if the popular software (F@H, SETI, etc.) was altered so the "work" was actually breaking codes and third parties were able to have their own pen register of sorts to top secret military communication? That's kind of scary.

The movies are too predictable (Transformers 2) with their cute little alien incarnations "worming" around a satellite!

So the government is too concerned with kids downloading movies and music while the malware problem continues (albeit at great costs to IT!) and COULD actually get intelligent and do real damage. Look at what botnets are doing already. Think it's going to get any better?

You'd think they would mandate the ISPs to start filtering this stuff out or at least blacklist all the domains in their DNS farms.

I dunno but, I think that we've reached the point that, that type of filtering and/or blacklisting might hamper the NSA and others more than is would harm the bad guys.
 

Fritzo

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Jan 3, 2001
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Holy crap! They're still using WEP! You would have thought they'd have upgraded.
 

Rubycon

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I dunno but, I think that we've reached the point that, that type of filtering and/or blacklisting might hamper the NSA and others more than is would harm the bad guys.

Does it even matter now that they encapsulate everything these days?
 

biggestmuff

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Mar 20, 2001
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It's nearly impossible to break any military encryption as the most important part, the keymat, is changed daily, weekly, monthly, bi-annually or annually depending on the system.

<- used to work on the very system mentioned in the OP @ the five-sided fistagon. :)
 

Scrodes

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Pretty good from what I've been told. My old boss managed intelligence sats for USAF before getting into commercial IT work. He had some cool stories. :)

Lies!

Just get yourself a ACS module from a downed US military satellite reverse engineer it in a few days and you're clear to invade the continental US across the Atlantic and Pacific with a navy undetectable to every nation on the planet...
 

Fox5

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I'd imagine that satellite aren't very programmable, so even if you did crack into it, you wouldn't be able to do much. If they are programmable, I expect the government has an easy way to overwrite whatever it is you did.
 

darkxshade

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Tiger woods wrote the encryption so I imagine the US won't find out it got hacked until at least 10 other countries have gotten into it.
 

Nox51

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You do realize that now the men in black will be waiting for you at the next port right?