how fast is an F1 or CART car in the 1/4? *NOT A NASCAR THREAD*

[ElFenix]

anyone know?

 

[GasX]

pretty fvcking fast

 

[mrCide]

itll take you from 0-laid in like 2.3 sec

 

[JulesMaximus]

Depends on how they are geared and how much downforce they are running. I can't remember exactly but I think I remember hearing that an F1 car can do 0-100 within about 1.2 seconds.

 

[Zenmervolt]

Google seems to think it would be around 9-10 seconds. Remember that these cars are not using drag radials and they are limited with weight transfer. Most of a CART or F1 car's grip is from aero downforce at speed, so there's not a whole lot of traction (compared to a dragster) available to a CART or F1 car for much of the run.

ZV

 

[Confused]

I remember hearing that Top Fuel/Funnycar dragsters are quicker in the 1/4 mile, but of course F1 cars aren't designed for 1/4 mile and rapid acceleration.

 

[Zenmervolt]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Depends on how they are geared and how much downforce they are running. I can't remember exactly but I think I remember hearing that an F1 car can do 0-100 within about 1.2 seconds.

That would make it run the 1/4 mile faster than a Top Fuel dragster. Not gonna happen.

An F1 car, in race trim, would probably run in the low 9's.

ZV

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Google seems to think it would be around 9-10 seconds. Remember that these cars are not using drag radials and they are limited with weight transfer. Most of a CART or F1 car's grip is from aero downforce at speed, so there's not a whole lot of traction (compared to a dragster) available to a CART or F1 car for much of the run.

ZV

At the start of an F1 race they are on hot tires and they have traction control. These cars make over 800hp and weigh only about 1200 lbs with the driver. So, they are pretty fvcking fast. They would be limited more by aerodynamic drag at the top end though.

 

[Czar]

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Google seems to think it would be around 9-10 seconds. Remember that these cars are not using drag radials and they are limited with weight transfer. Most of a CART or F1 car's grip is from aero downforce at speed, so there's not a whole lot of traction (compared to a dragster) available to a CART or F1 car for much of the run.

ZV

yes and they are designed to go very very fast in turns so their average speed is very high

 

[Zenmervolt]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Google seems to think it would be around 9-10 seconds. Remember that these cars are not using drag radials and they are limited with weight transfer. Most of a CART or F1 car's grip is from aero downforce at speed, so there's not a whole lot of traction (compared to a dragster) available to a CART or F1 car for much of the run.

ZV

At the start of an F1 race they are on hot tires and they have traction control. These cars make over 800hp and weigh only about 1200 lbs with the driver. So, they are pretty fvcking fast. They would be limited more by aerodynamic drag at the top end though.

It's 0-100 KPH in 2.8 seconds. So, 0-62 in 2.8 seconds.

Top Fuel dragsters have far better tires, about the same weight, and about 8,000 HP (dead serious), and is optimised for straight-line acceleration with no thought given to cornering. An F1 car is not going to come remotely close to a Top Fuel dragster in the 1/4 mile.

ZV

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Google seems to think it would be around 9-10 seconds. Remember that these cars are not using drag radials and they are limited with weight transfer. Most of a CART or F1 car's grip is from aero downforce at speed, so there's not a whole lot of traction (compared to a dragster) available to a CART or F1 car for much of the run.

ZV

At the start of an F1 race they are on hot tires and they have traction control. These cars make over 800hp and weigh only about 1200 lbs with the driver. So, they are pretty fvcking fast. They would be limited more by aerodynamic drag at the top end though.

It's 0-100 KPH in 2.8 seconds. So, 0-62 in 2.8 seconds.

Top Fuel dragsters have far better tires, about the same weight, and about 8,000 HP (dead serious), and is optimised for straight-line acceleration with no thought given to cornering. An F1 car is not going to come remotely close to a Top Fuel dragster in the 1/4 mile.

ZV

I never said it would.

 

[JulesMaximus]

I've done some more checking and it seems that it would take about 3.5 seconds for an F1 car to hit 100mph from a standstill. I think 0-100kph was about 2.0 seconds.

 

[Zenmervolt]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
I never said it would.

If it's running a 0-100mph time of 1.2 seconds, then it's going to come bloody well close to a Top Fuel Dragster. Or didn't you think about that number and the implications it would have on 1/4 mile time at all before you posted it?

ZV

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
I never said it would.

If it's running a 0-100mph time of 1.2 seconds, then it's going to come bloody well close to a Top Fuel Dragster. Or didn't you think about that number and the implications it would have on 1/4 mile time at all before you posted it?

ZV

The acceleration curve for an F1 car is not linear. Aerodynamic drag would not allow it to keep accelerating at that rate. So, yes, I did think about that.

 

[Pex]

F1 imo is so much better than stockcar. Its so much faster, and the tracks are more varied. only hicks watch nascar.

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
I never said it would.

If it's running a 0-100mph time of 1.2 seconds, then it's going to come bloody well close to a Top Fuel Dragster. Or didn't you think about that number and the implications it would have on 1/4 mile time at all before you posted it?

ZV

The acceleration curve for an F1 car is not linear. Aerodynamic drag would not allow it to keep accelerating at that rate. So, yes, I did think about that.

dragsters drag quite a bit as well. need to keep that nose down and the rear planted.

 

[Night201]

I know it's not a 1/4 mile, but IIRC, F1 cars do 0-60 in about 3 seconds give or take a few tenths.

F1 races are amazing to watch in person.

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: Pex
F1 imo is so much better than stockcar. Its so much faster, and the tracks are more varied. only hicks watch nascar.

WTF does this thread have to do with nascar? if you want to start dumping on nascar go to a nascar thread! :|

 

[Demon-Xanth]

Based on figures from the IHRA:
Blown Top Fuelers 8000HP, 2650LBs
Non-blown Top Fuelers: 5000HP, 2150LBs (not an option in the NHRA)

As far as F1 cars acceleration not being linear, once you take into account the gearing being quite high, and thier powerbands being very peaky, the lack of traction (and downforce), they do NOT accelerate at lower speeds as well as higher speeds. I could easily see thier 100-160 times actually being as fast as the 0-60 times if not faster. Sure, there's more drag, but there's also more traction and HP. An F1 car couldn't keep up with a Pro Stock car muchless a Top Fueler. It's like a race between an arrow and a cannon round. *flick* vs. *WHUMP*

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
I never said it would.

If it's running a 0-100mph time of 1.2 seconds, then it's going to come bloody well close to a Top Fuel Dragster. Or didn't you think about that number and the implications it would have on 1/4 mile time at all before you posted it?

ZV

The acceleration curve for an F1 car is not linear. Aerodynamic drag would not allow it to keep accelerating at that rate. So, yes, I did think about that.

dragsters drag quite a bit as well. need to keep that nose down and the rear planted.

I heard a few years ago that Champ cars make enough downforce that you could actually drive the car upside down at speeds over 150mph. Don't know if that's true or not though.

 

[Buttzilla]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
I never said it would.

If it's running a 0-100mph time of 1.2 seconds, then it's going to come bloody well close to a Top Fuel Dragster. Or didn't you think about that number and the implications it would have on 1/4 mile time at all before you posted it?

ZV

The acceleration curve for an F1 car is not linear. Aerodynamic drag would not allow it to keep accelerating at that rate. So, yes, I did think about that.

dragsters drag quite a bit as well. need to keep that nose down and the rear planted.

I heard a few years ago that Champ cars make enough downforce that you could actually drive the car upside down at speeds over 150mph. Don't know if that's true or not though.

i heard about this also.

 

[Kelvrick]

Originally posted by: Buttzilla

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
I never said it would.

If it's running a 0-100mph time of 1.2 seconds, then it's going to come bloody well close to a Top Fuel Dragster. Or didn't you think about that number and the implications it would have on 1/4 mile time at all before you posted it?

ZV

The acceleration curve for an F1 car is not linear. Aerodynamic drag would not allow it to keep accelerating at that rate. So, yes, I did think about that.

dragsters drag quite a bit as well. need to keep that nose down and the rear planted.

I heard a few years ago that Champ cars make enough downforce that you could actually drive the car upside down at speeds over 150mph. Don't know if that's true or not though.

i heard about this also.

I just don't understand. Downforce and being able to drive upsidedown...

 

[Vic]

F1 cars simply aren't designed for the 1/4 mile. Probably 9-10 seconds, as has been posted. With their long gearing, somewhat poor off-the-line traction, and sky-high-revving engines, their 60 foot and 1/8 mile times would probably be somewhat unimpressive, but once they get going... they get going.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: Kelvrick
I just don't understand. Downforce and being able to drive upsidedown...

How does a plane fly?

Same thing but just reversed.

 

[Hammer]

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