How fast is a STOCK Nissan 240SX?

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My mother in law (holy christ I've never said that before. god I really have one now) bought a car some years back - she ordered an auto and it was dropped from the boat to the wharf apparently. The dealer had only a 5-speed so he spent about 1-2 hours teaching her on it. It's all she drives now.

Sticks rock! I love to drive the stick. I can handle the stick.
 

crab

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SuperGroove

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Though I thought you came off as an ass in my thread, I thought I'd offer what I've researched:

An SR20DET swap will run you quite a bit of money. While you might be able to get the block for merely $3000, you will have to have many more parts to make the conversion reliable. I was quoted at $8-10,000 for the whole job done right and being capable of putting down 250WHP reliably.

That is from these guys: SRGuys.com.

What you may also want to know is that the car will not be legal in the states with the engine. Getting it smogged may become a hassle.

Good luck, the cars are awesome.
 

halik

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well, you can get a 350ci camaro that weights about 3400lbs. Put 2 3 grand in it and youll get 450hp monster.

If you want a real project car, just pick up a 68 camara and have fun with it. My friend has a 66 charger and its thee most badass car ive ever seen. With 383bb and some upgrades that thing has 400hp easy
 

mAdD INDIAN

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<< You guys aren't getting his point. He wants a project car and wants to learn how to drive a stick. For a $3000 car and a $1000 engine swap and you already have a decent car. Like I said earlier, drop another $1000-$2000 on top of that engine swap and your gonna have a FAST car.

My project car is going to be an 87 Maxima that my friend is graciously giving me. I'm gonna see how much I can squeeze outta that maxima engine. :)
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'87 Maxima? That's RWD with a inline 6 right??

I would put in the L26 from the older 240Z and work on that. Or alternatively I'm sure a Chevy 350 small-block would be a nice fit in there..hell they fit in anything from Miatas to RX-7 to 510s to 240Z to 1 & 2nd gen Maximas.

TuffGuy: A 5-spd 240SX STOCK with go anywhere from low 16s to mid 15s stock in the 1/4mi. Head on over to Zilvia.net and 240SX.Org or FreshAlloy.com. Check out their forums specifically for 240SX. I've heard of someone getting a 15.5s in the 1/4mi stock from the 240SX. Unfortantely I don't remember the trap speed..but its not that high.

It all depends on the driver. The better you get at driving, the faster the 240SX will be <to a certain point of course>. Personally, I wouldn't make the 240SX an all-out drag car...that's not what it was designed for and there are many other cars that are better for that. Make it an all out road-course & auto-x car, that's where it will shine.

Also, why even swap in the SR20DET? Turbo the stock KA24DE...apparently the fastest 240SX is running of a turbocharged KA24DE!
 

mAdD INDIAN

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Buy this S14 240SX dammit!! It's turbocharged!

My 240SX looks exactly like that...same colour! Except mine doesn't have the intercooler, turbo, those rims, shiny engine bay, turbo guages, etc...but its the same colour!!! :) And I have the stock spoiler as well as a stock LSD!
 
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That S14 is a regular sleeper...looks like a regular 240 with rims from the outside.

Quick question: what's the difference b/t gregshin's 240 and that S14? That S14 has "regular headlights", whereas gregshin has that special Japanese looking type.
 

mAdD INDIAN

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<< That S14 is a regular sleeper...looks like a regular 240 with rims from the outside.

Quick question: what's the difference b/t gregshin's 240 and that S14? That S14 has "regular headlights", whereas gregshin has that special Japanese looking type.
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'95-'96 have that kind of headlights in the above link <same as my car>
'97-'98 have Gregshin's kinda headlights.

Both cars are the exact same save for the front lights.
 

mAdD INDIAN

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No problem.

If you really wanna see a sweet '240SX' check out the S15 Silvia..which is the next-gen of '240SX', unfortantely we don't get them here in North America. They are called 200SX or Silvia in the rest of the world.

They have a really sweet headlight treatment!
 

TuffGuy

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SuperGroove - sorry.



<< was quoted at $8-10,000 for the whole job done right and being capable of putting down 250WHP reliably. >>


why so high? the car itself is only $1500, the front clip (early models; on ebay) is only $1500-$2000. delivery is a couple of hundred. it should come out to ~$5000 to install a stock sr20det. front bumper, headlights and trim should be ~$500. it would be even cheaper if you could install it yourself. upgrading the internals and the fuel system to handle 400hp should be ~$1500 i think... it would be even cheaper if you do everything before putting the engine in to save on some labor.


<< If you want a real project car, just pick up a 68 camara and have fun with it. My friend has a 66 charger and its thee most badass car ive ever seen. With 383bb and some upgrades that thing has 400hp easy >>


find me one for $1500 and i'm sold...


<< Personally, I wouldn't make the 240SX an all-out drag car... >>


i'm not. i just want a car that's fun to drive. if i wanted a cheap drap car i'd just get an older z28 or 5.0.
 

mAdD INDIAN

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The 240SX is fun to drive in its stock form. Sure it may take you longer to get to 60mph, but you don't have to slow down as much when you turn =)
 

Soujiro

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Whoever said the sr20det engine was 1K is smoking something. More like between 2-3K.

Also different models of 240s handle differently. The fastback 240's have the best front/back balance ratio, while the coupe versions weigh slightly less.

The s14 is quite a bit heavier than s13, although technically there is no s13 in america anyway. The 240sx we have here is actually the 180sx in japan. Although you could practically make an s13 if you took a 240 coupe and did a sila-80 conversion.

Tho I must admit, those fastbacks with the sila-80 conversions look pretty damn sweet and they have the best balance.

As far as swapping the engine goes, you might want to look into just putting a turbo on the ka24de. There's some pretty impressive numbers, and it's less effort than the swap. Good examples of both at 240sx.org.

Soujir0
 

mAdD INDIAN

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The S13 is the '89-'93 240SXs sold here...its the same platform as the S13 in Japan...just looks different with the pop-up lights <which i like better mind you>
 

TuffGuy

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to the people asking why i wouldn't just turbo the ka24e... the sr20set with the tranny, turbo and alternator weighs 490lbs. the ka24e ALONE weighs 493lbs.
 

Soujiro

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The 89 - 93 240sx is not the same as the s13 mad Indian. The american 240sx is closest to the Japanese 180sx.

The most noticible difference between the 180sx and the s13 may be the lights, but both have different front ends and the 180sx can also have either the ca18det or the sr20det. (People in america prefer to do the sr20 swap because it's easier to get them and get parts, but the ca18 is regarded by many as a stronger block)

But basically it all comes down the the front end and body type. The 180 in japan is a fastback with flip up lights. The s13 in japan is a coupe with non flip up lights.

Like I said before, the only real s13s in america are where people have done front end silvia conversions with the sr20det swap on a coupe version of the 240sx. Do the same on the fastbacks and the car is then what is commonly referred to in japan as the sila-80. (half silvia, have 180)

People in japan do it on 180s because they like ideal weight balance of the 180 and the non flip-up lights. Since both the s13 and the 180 are built on the same platform, it's also a very common thing to do if you crash your 180 and want to make it look like you really wanted to do the sila-80 conversion. =P

But all said and done, you could say the american 240's can pretty much be called either the s13 or the 180sx.

But yeah, if you wanna be cool and call it by the Japanese name and you own a fastback, you'd say 180sx and not s13.

Soujir0

There I go making a big deal out of nothing again. =P
 

gogeeta13

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everyone wants to do the swap now, i have been saying it for years

damn you sportscompactcar magazine, DAMN YOU
 

mAdD INDIAN

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<< The 89 - 93 240sx is not the same as the s13 mad Indian. The american 240sx is closest to the Japanese 180sx.

The most noticible difference between the 180sx and the s13 may be the lights, but both have different front ends and the 180sx can have either the ca18det or the sr20det. (People in america prefer to do the sr20 swap because it's easier to get them and get parts, but the ca18 is regarded by many as a stronger block)

But basically it all comes down the the front end and body type. The 180 in japan is a fastback with flip up lights. The s13 is a coupe with non flip up lights.

Like I said before, the only real s13s in america are where people have done front end silvia conversions with the sr20det swap on a coupe version of the 240sx. Do the same on the fastbacks and the car is then what is commonly referred to in japan as the sila-80. (half silvia, have 180)

People in japan do it on 180s because they like ideal weight balance of the 180 and the non flip-up lights. Since both the s13 and the 180 are built on the same platform, it's also a very common thing to do if you crash your 180 and want to make it look like you really wanted to do the sila-80 conversion. =P

But all said and done, you could say the american 240's can pretty much be called either the s13 or the 180sx.

But yeah, if you wanna be cool and call it by the Japanese name and you own a fastback, you'd say 180sx and not s13.

Soujir0

There I go making a big deal out of nothing again. =P
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umm that's what i said in my post...only hte front end is different?
 

mAdD INDIAN

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<< Yeah I guess so. Guess we both win. Yaaayy...:D

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notfred

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not to be a harbinger of doom, but:
guy who's never even driven a stick shift buys a 140 hp car, plans engine swap at some arbitray date in the future...

I forsee a car that never makes more than 150hp at the wheels....