How fast is 464 kbps?

[BlitzPuppet]

Dumb question: Why still 8 bits in a byte in a 64-bit world?

Not sure I understand the question? It's a base measurement that everything is based off of. It's like changing the value of a pound or kilo, wouldn't make sense to do either.

Just because we are on 32, 64, or 128bit systems doesn't change the fact that there are 8 bits in a byte.

 

[JujuFish]

By the way: kilo is a lower case k as well, an upper case K would be Kelvin in most cases.

Also, it's whether or not the 'b' is capitalized that indicates bits or bytes. Kilobits is kb, kilobytes is kB.

 

[sdifox]

Dumb question: Why still 8 bits in a byte in a 64-bit world?

cuz in a system you use a word.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Word_(computer_architecture)

 

[Gryz]

Dumb question: Why still 8 bits in a byte in a 64-bit world?

If you had 64 bits in a byte, you'd have 32 bits in a nibble. And that's just too much !

 

[Ban Bot]

OP: How fast slow is 464 kbps?

Fixed that for you!

 

[_Rick_]

Dumb question: Why still 8 bits in a byte in a 64-bit world?

Because independently of word lengths, the Byte remained the minimally adressable unit in many contexts. Though with HDD sectors being 512/4096 bits and memory also being read in larger bursts, the Byte really holds no more meaning with regards to most things, except for example encoding the per-color information in a 24/32 bpp bitmap, or as a soft delimiter to indiciate where a binary file ends - but then even those should realistically end on word-length-multiples, but text-headers or the like can extend this, and compression can also make use of Byte- and below sized information.

The Byte then, is mostly a legacy unit. But not completely!

 

[Imp]

You people saying 0.464 Mbps are crazy. Learn to peddle: it's 0.5 Mbps.

I think that's what my 100 year old phone lines top out at on DSL.

 

[lxskllr]

What I posted is exactly how they wrote it. And it's satellite.

Ping would be awful. 56k would be better for some applications.

 

[GrumpyMan]

On the moon that would really be fast with less gravity.....

 

[CoPhotoGuy]

56.64 KiB/s

 

[Murloc]

I prefer to use mbps vs Mbps, that way you know it was not a typo since you could mess up the b :awe:

it could create confusion if someone did not know that you cannot divide a bit.

m means milli, M means mega.

 

[waggy]

err no dial up is 56kbps.

I rarely got that. usually connected at 53 or 33.6.

I really don't miss dial up days.

 

[Red Squirrel]

Ping would be awful. 56k would be better for some applications.

Yeah latency is probably more important than speed in some cases. But the most important factor of all is not even technical, and it's whether or not they cap it. I'd rather have unlimited dialup than limited high speed. Thankfully I have the best of both worlds, unlimited fibre to the home. 50/30 FTW. I consider myself very lucky to get this as most people here in Canada don't have access to such fast connection and not everyone who does has an uncapped one.

 

[lxskllr]

I'd rather have unlimited dialup than limited high speed.

I used to get disconnected after 12 hours exactly. I might as well have been speaking Navajo calling cs. No one knew what I was talking about, and denied disconnecting me. Dialup was the only reason I had a landline, but I was limited to ~250MB before my download failed. That's where torrents really shine. They're extremely fault tolerant. I ended up ditching 56k in 2006(relatively late) due to Verizon jerking me around on a repair issue. They were claiming the fault was my wiring(means *I* have to pay), and not them. I just dropped the whole thing and got Comcast. There's fios around here now, but Verizon can go fuck themselves. Unless Comcast screws up bad, and they haven't, the only use I have for Verizon is potential leverage against Comcast in case I need it.

 

[BUTCH1]

That's about the equivalent of the cheapest DSL plan you can buy, ATOT will probably be fine, video streaming will have to be at the lowest offered resolution. I would not recommend this Old's, if you've had a decent high speed connection for a long time this will suck donkey's balls for you. Think of downgrading from a '69 Camaro SS 396 to a Ford Falcon. Yea, that bad.

 

[CZroe]

I rarely got that. usually connected at 53 or 33.6.

I really don't miss dial up days.

Pretty sure 53.3 was the fastest allowed in the USA for v.90.

 

[Red Squirrel]

I used to get disconnected after 12 hours exactly. I might as well have been speaking Navajo calling cs. No one knew what I was talking about, and denied disconnecting me. Dialup was the only reason I had a landline, but I was limited to ~250MB before my download failed. That's where torrents really shine. They're extremely fault tolerant. I ended up ditching 56k in 2006(relatively late) due to Verizon jerking me around on a repair issue. They were claiming the fault was my wiring(means *I* have to pay), and not them. I just dropped the whole thing and got Comcast. There's fios around here now, but Verizon can go fuck themselves. Unless Comcast screws up bad, and they haven't, the only use I have for Verizon is potential leverage against Comcast in case I need it.

I remember before torrents, think it was either Kazzaa or Morpheus I was using, with dialup. I actually managed to download a 600MB file in 2 weeks on and off. I was very surprised that the file was not even corrupt.

Today we tend to take always-on internet for granted. I used to get DCed all the time too with dialup. Hear the relay in the modem click off and know exactly what happened before even getting an error. Then my mom would happen to pickup the phone and I was out for at least a few hours before I can connect again. :biggrin:

 

[BUTCH1]

I used to get disconnected after 12 hours exactly. I might as well have been speaking Navajo calling cs. No one knew what I was talking about, and denied disconnecting me. Dialup was the only reason I had a landline, but I was limited to ~250MB before my download failed. That's where torrents really shine. They're extremely fault tolerant. I ended up ditching 56k in 2006(relatively late) due to Verizon jerking me around on a repair issue. They were claiming the fault was my wiring(means *I* have to pay), and not them. I just dropped the whole thing and got Comcast. There's fios around here now, but Verizon can go fuck themselves. Unless Comcast screws up bad, and they haven't, the only use I have for Verizon is potential leverage against Comcast in case I need it.

Wow, hard to believe anyone was using dial-up in 2006, that must have been horrific.

 

[BUTCH1]

I rarely got that. usually connected at 53 or 33.6.

I really don't miss dial up days.

Unless you had AOL which would give you the "goodbye!" as it kicked users off during peak hours. When I called to complain I was offered a speedy auto-dialer so I could re-connect fast before I got booted again. I switched to Earthlink shortly thereafter.

 

[lxskllr]

Wow, hard to believe anyone was using dial-up in 2006, that must have been horrific.

It wasn't so bad. The worst was getting auto disconnected. Otherwise, I'm patient, and I could play UT2k4 on that connection. I doubt I could go back though. For the most part, the web's gotten too fat for dialup.

 

[waggy]

Unless you had AOL which would give you the "goodbye!" as it kicked users off during peak hours. When I called to complain I was offered a speedy auto-dialer so I could re-connect fast before I got booted again. I switched to Earthlink shortly thereafter.

I had AOL for a very short time. I was lucky in finding a local company that was pretty damn good.

 

[ninaholic37]

I rarely got that. usually connected at 53 or 33.6.

I really don't miss dial up days.

Yes, I remember only being able to download at 4.something kB/s on dialup with a 56kbps modem, never higher. Didn't know at the time that 56kbps really meant 7kB or whatever sneaky capitalization nonsense it was, but still it was always only 4.something, don't remember why (something about how phone lines work ?).

 

[lxskllr]

Yes, I remember only being able to download at 4.something kB/s on dialup with a 56kbps modem, never higher. Didn't know at the time that 56kbps really meant 7kB or whatever sneaky capitalization nonsense it was, but still it was always only 4.something, don't remember why (something about how phone lines work ?).

Your connection speed was the cap for that session, but it could always go slower. IOW, if you connect at 48KBps, you speed won't go above 6Kbps, but it could be anything 6 or below. If I got a slow connection, I'd disconnect, and try again.

 

[Ichinisan]

0.464 mbps

This.

 

[olds]

That's about the equivalent of the cheapest DSL plan you can buy, ATOT will probably be fine, video streaming will have to be at the lowest offered resolution. I would not recommend this Old's, if you've had a decent high speed connection for a long time this will suck donkey's balls for you. Think of downgrading from a '69 Camaro SS 396 to a Ford Falcon. Yea, that bad.

It's not for me. It's satellite for emergency operations. The dish is about the size of a dinner plate. I have other options though.