How fast are you moving when you hit? Jump out of plane, parachute doesn't open?

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Excelsior

Lifer
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Just had to say...this dude is hardcore:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/81/Kittinger-jump.jpg

The first, from 76,400 feet (23,287 m) in November, 1959 was a near tragedy when an equipment malfunction caused him to lose consciousness, but the automatic parachute saved him (he went into a flat spin at a rotational velocity of 120 rpm, the G factor calculated at his extremities was over 22 times that of gravity, setting another record). Three weeks later he jumped again from 74,700 feet (22,769 m). For that return jump Kittinger was awarded the Leo Stevens parachute medal.

On August 16, 1960 he made the final jump from the Excelsior III at 102,800 feet (31,300 m). He was in freefall for 13 minutes and 45 seconds reaching a maximum speed of 614 mph (988 km/h) before opening his parachute at 18,000 feet (5,500 m). Pressurization for his right glove malfunctioned during the ascent, causing his hand to swell. He set records for highest balloon ascent, highest parachute jump, longest freefall and fastest speed by a man through the atmosphere.

Badass.
 

Mo0o

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I always thought spoilers weren't suppose to increase/decrease "drag" in terms of some kind of horizontal force per se but to increase the downforce on your car
 

Bootprint

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Originally posted by: fLum0x
Originally posted by: Spacehead
Originally posted by: MichaelD
You're right; I do have a better understanding of HOW it all happens. This came about b/c a buddy of mine, who likes to jump out of perfectly good aircraft, wants me to do it too. :Q Hellllll no. My fat ass would make a big old SPLAT on the countryside ...and who wants to mar a beautiful countryside, right?

Maybe not

where is the video!?!?!?

Quick Fox highlights of the video. The full vid is around somewhere.

Longer vid
 

pyonir

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there's a chance your chute won't open MichaeldD? I say DO IT!! Please for love of all of ATOT, DO THE JUMP!


:D
 

IronWing

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Would a giant treadmill fall at the same speed as the wannabe chutist?
 

SkyBum

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Most skydivers generally refer to an impact as a "bounce".

When I first started sport jumping many years ago, I was amazed when they told me that I would need to wear a weight vest carrying 10 lbs. of lead weight in order to stay "down" with the rest of the formation ("you're telling me I gotta strap on 10 lbs. of lead to jump out of an airplane with you fools? Unbelievable....").

It comes down to a factor of drag and weight. I am tall and skinny (at least I was at the time...) so my body presented a fair amount of resistance to the apparent wind while having a low amount of mass which made it somewhat difficult to fall at the same speed as the other jumpers.

As a way of compensation, people like myself wore skin tight jumpsuits made from slick fabrics such as nylon etc., and utilize weight vests with an appropriate amount of lead to assist with their fall rate. Short squat jumpers on the other hand, would wear very baggy jumpsuits (I'm talkin huge flappy suits) made from materials with more drag such as a coarse cotton.

From there, you can also adjust your fall rate with body position. The slowest fall rate is acheived with a body position much like you would look if you laid face down on a giant beach ball (cupping the air stream). For a faster fall rate, you "get small" (elbows and hands in close to your body, knees slightly bent and legs together. This will allow you to spill more air.

Terminal velocity asumes a jumper falling chest to earth in a stable body position (120mph or 176 feet per second). A perfect head down body position can acheive a much greater speed of around 200 mph. Best to not open your main at that speed though, as your likely to get pretty mangled by the deceleration of your chute.

One fun thing we used to do is to play catch with a tennis ball while in freefall. The tennis ball has a very similar drag to weight ratio as a human so it falls right with you, though it moves rather slowly toward the person it is thrown at. Pretty fun though. You can see it in action here: http://video.yahoo.com/video/play?vid=c9b84cf7fc8a1bdc33f71fdc55553c19.949148 (notice how much the suits vary to compensate for the jumper's mass/aspect ratio).

The most amazing jumps I have ever seen is by a group of norweigan jumpers who use hi-tech "wingsuits" while base jumping. These guys literally fly down canyons and buzz the treetops and rocks with only a few feet of clearance. The only requirement is a slope greater than their maximum glide ratio and one last cliff at the end which will allow them time to deploy their parachute.

MOST AMAZING SKYDIVE VIDEOS I HAVE EVER SEEN:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_NaYHb87U8

For the other, go to skydivingmovies.com (best skydiving movie site on the internet) and search for a movie called "You fly we try".

Awesome stuff!

 

91TTZ

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Originally posted by: Mo0o
I always thought spoilers weren't suppose to increase/decrease "drag" in terms of some kind of horizontal force per se but to increase the downforce on your car

No, a spoiler isn't a wing. Some people confuse the two, but they're different.
 

91TTZ

Lifer
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Originally posted by: SkyBum

One fun thing we used to do is to play catch with a tennis ball while in freefall. The tennis ball has a very similar drag to weight ratio as a human so it falls right with you, though it moves rather slowly toward the person it is thrown at. Pretty fun though. You can see it in action here: http://video.yahoo.com/video/play?vid=c9b84cf7fc8a1bdc33f71fdc55553c19.949148 (notice how much the suits vary to compensate for the jumper's mass/aspect ratio).

That link says that they had to load the tennis ball with ballast to make it fall at the same rate as the people. The terminal velocity of a tennis ball is only about half that of a skydiver.
 

kami333

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Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Originally posted by: Electric Amish
Originally posted by: Zenmervolt
Assuming a physics problem, his mass doesn't matter, only the distance of his jump. He will accelerate at 9.8m/s/s until he impacts.

Assuming this is a real world scenario, the poster above me has you covered.

ZV
Assuming no resistance...
Hence my "assuming a physics problem" answer and my secondary "assuming this is a real world scenario" answer. :p

ZV

Assuming a spherical cow...
 

AbAbber2k

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Originally posted by: Spacehead
Originally posted by: MichaelD
You're right; I do have a better understanding of HOW it all happens. This came about b/c a buddy of mine, who likes to jump out of perfectly good aircraft, wants me to do it too. :Q Hellllll no. My fat ass would make a big old SPLAT on the countryside ...and who wants to mar a beautiful countryside, right?

Maybe not

Sucks that it was a blackberry bush that broke his fall... but I don't think he was complaining.