How exactly did 15 armed british sailors just get "captured"?

[Luthien]

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: Luthien

Originally posted by: tagej
Behond, Luthien, one of our resident dimwits.

Lets see. Two scenarios. First scenario, the brits respond with force, blow up some ships, most likely getting their 15 soldiers killed in the process. Possible war with Iran. Scenario two: sailors are kidnapped, but remain alive. No war is triggered. Sailors will most likely come home unharmed. Option to go in with all guns blazing is still on the table if needed, now with legitimate justification. Through their unjustified actions, Iran is further isolated from the civilized world, making future actions against them easier.

Which scenario sounds more beneficial?

Behond? lol You left out a lot of scenarios dimwit.

Such as? Dimwit.

Well, if you can't think of any on your own...

 

[yllus]

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: yllus
On the other hand, do you allow other nations to capture and parade around your citizens - worse, members of your armed forces - whenever they feel like giving themselves an ego boost? You don't want to give the impression that you're too toothless (politically speaking, we know the Brits could spank Iran) to protect your own people - it merely invites further trouble.

Not being willing to respond with force only emboldens your attackers. This is fundamentally a matter of national respect. Iran clearly does not respect England in the same way they do the US, that's why they grabbed British sailors instead of US troops. Iran's government may hate us but they certainly respect that we have both the capability and the will to use force to defend our people and sovereignty.

I agree. Said bald-faced, sometimes sending a message like that is sometimes more important than a few people's lives in the short term.

Of course, the Brits being Brits, they'll probably just smile and take this public embarrassment for now... and exact some payback later. I very much doubt that Mr. Blair or whoever follows him will simply let this slide into the past.

 

[RichUK]

Originally posted by: Luthien

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: Luthien

Originally posted by: tagej
Behond, Luthien, one of our resident dimwits.

Lets see. Two scenarios. First scenario, the brits respond with force, blow up some ships, most likely getting their 15 soldiers killed in the process. Possible war with Iran. Scenario two: sailors are kidnapped, but remain alive. No war is triggered. Sailors will most likely come home unharmed. Option to go in with all guns blazing is still on the table if needed, now with legitimate justification. Through their unjustified actions, Iran is further isolated from the civilized world, making future actions against them easier.

Which scenario sounds more beneficial?

Behond? lol You left out a lot of scenarios dimwit.

Such as? Dimwit.

Well, if you can't think of any on your own...

Nice try at avoiding the question.

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: loki8481
care to elaborate? the two scenarios that tage described are really the only way I see things possibly going down.

It doesn't really matter. The path to war with Iran has already been started. And just like Iraq it has been started by their own leader. We just simply have to respond sooner this time.

This is just another test to see what they can get away with. Just like how Sadam would test.

Read history on how wars are started, then compare to the actions of Iraq and Iran. It really does repeat itself.

 

[jpeyton]

Originally posted by: Luthien

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: Luthien

Originally posted by: tagej
Behond, Luthien, one of our resident dimwits.

Lets see. Two scenarios. First scenario, the brits respond with force, blow up some ships, most likely getting their 15 soldiers killed in the process. Possible war with Iran. Scenario two: sailors are kidnapped, but remain alive. No war is triggered. Sailors will most likely come home unharmed. Option to go in with all guns blazing is still on the table if needed, now with legitimate justification. Through their unjustified actions, Iran is further isolated from the civilized world, making future actions against them easier.

Which scenario sounds more beneficial?

Behond? lol You left out a lot of scenarios dimwit.

Such as? Dimwit.

Well, if you can't think of any on your own...

tagej: 2 scenarios

Luthien: 0 scenarios

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: Luthien

Originally posted by: jpeyton

Originally posted by: Luthien

Originally posted by: tagej
Behond, Luthien, one of our resident dimwits.

Lets see. Two scenarios. First scenario, the brits respond with force, blow up some ships, most likely getting their 15 soldiers killed in the process. Possible war with Iran. Scenario two: sailors are kidnapped, but remain alive. No war is triggered. Sailors will most likely come home unharmed. Option to go in with all guns blazing is still on the table if needed, now with legitimate justification. Through their unjustified actions, Iran is further isolated from the civilized world, making future actions against them easier.

Which scenario sounds more beneficial?

Behond? lol You left out a lot of scenarios dimwit.

Such as? Dimwit.

Well, if you can't think of any on your own...

Why should he do your homework for you? Do you always make claims and then expect someone else to prove them true?