How easy is it to spread misinformation…

[ivwshane]

I just saw a segment on Chris Hayes (msnbc) and he talked about Jared Goff of the Detroit lions having a bad game with 4 interceptions. Well during that game a Twitter user tweeted that Goff has had 6 gashes where he threw 4 interceptions and he was 6-0 when that happenes.

The tweet took off and the stat was repeated on a network sports show where one pundit asked the other, “is that stat true?”, to which they said, “Yes”.


Turns out the guy who tweeted that later tweeted out, “if you ever wondered how fast disinformation spreads, I complete made up that last tweet”. (Or something to that effect).

If I find the clip I’ll post it but it really hits home just how bad it is.

Anyone else see it?

 

[zinfamous]

the internet was such a wretched idea. Across a population of people, it is the most dangerous weapon imaginable. To a person, none of this stuff really matters. But you start dealing with groups and large populations, the amount of destruction that can be done to human thinking, progress, health and safety is just unmatched by anything we can do to stop it.

That's what we are.

 

[gothuevos]

the internet was such a wretched idea. Across a population of people, it is the most dangerous weapon imaginable. To a person, none of this stuff really matters. But you start dealing with groups and large populations, the amount of destruction that can be done to human thinking, progress, health and safety is just unmatched by anything we can do to stop it.

That's what we are.

The internet was a mistake.

 

[ivwshane]

The internet was a mistake.

I disagree. It just needs better safeguards.

I think social media should offer a setting that will automatically mute misinformation or at the very least give a notification. The reason it should be an option is because you know there will be push back if it’s automatic (how else will our adversaries topple our democracy).

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

the internet was such a wretched idea. Across a population of people, it is the most dangerous weapon imaginable. To a person, none of this stuff really matters. But you start dealing with groups and large populations, the amount of destruction that can be done to human thinking, progress, health and safety is just unmatched by anything we can do to stop it.

That's what we are.

I've said this before, the internet was a great idea. Letting everyone on it was terrible. It should have stayed a niche thing for nerds to do nerd shit on.

 

[soulcougher73]

I just saw a segment on Chris Hayes (msnbc) and he talked about Jared Goff of the Detroit lions having a bad game with 4 interceptions. Well during that game a Twitter user tweeted that Goff has had 6 gashes where he threw 4 interceptions and he was 6-0 when that happenes.

The tweet took off and the stat was repeated on a network sports show where one pundit asked the other, “is that stat true?”, to which they said, “Yes”.


Turns out the guy who tweeted that later tweeted out, “if you ever wondered how fast disinformation spreads, I complete made up that last tweet”. (Or something to that effect).

If I find the clip I’ll post it but it really hits home just how bad it is.

Anyone else see it?

Randomly found it.

 

[ivwshane]

Randomly found it.

Thanks and just in case it wasn’t clear, no the stat isn’t real.

 

[nakedfrog]

A hundred years ago: "A lie can travel halfway around the world before the truth can get its boots on" and various permutations thereof

Quote Origin: A Lie Can Travel Halfway Around the World While the Truth Is Putting On Its Shoes – Quote Investigator®

quoteinvestigator.com

 

[Fenixgoon]

A hundred years ago: "A lie can travel halfway around the world before the truth can get its boots on" and various permutations thereof

Quote Origin: A Lie Can Travel Halfway Around the World While the Truth Is Putting On Its Shoes – Quote Investigator®

quoteinvestigator.com

This is why I never joined the Twitter-sphere of "omg repost [insert viral topic]".

My memory is hazy on the precise details, but one of the most poignant examples I can think of was when there was a short video about stopping some African crime lord, but turns out he'd been out of action/power for some time and the film director got caught with an underage girl.
Pretty sure a lot of people felt like idiots for reposting that video. Or worse, maybe they didn't 🤯

 

[Linux23]

I've said this before, the internet was a great idea. Letting everyone on it was terrible. It should have stayed a niche thing for nerds to do nerd shit on.

you've read my mind. kick out the dullards and leave the real interneting to us dweebs and geeks.

 

[compcons]

I disagree. It just needs better safeguards.

I think social media should offer a setting that will automatically mute misinformation or at the very least give a notification. The reason it should be an option is because you know there will be push back if it’s automatic (how else will our adversaries topple our democracy).

The sad thing is the people who get to control if there are safeguards are the ones who benefit from there being no safeguards. They will claim freedom even if it just a flag of some sort stating the thing is a lie.

We shouldn't need "user addeded context." That shit should be automatic. But calling out bullshit hurts the feelings of the shitty people who vote for the shitty people.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

The sad thing is the people who get to control if there are safeguards are the ones who benefit from there being no safeguards. They will claim freedom even if it just a flag of some sort stating the thing is a lie.

We shouldn't need "user addeded context." That shit should be automatic. But calling out bullshit hurts the feelings of the shitty people who vote for the shitty people.

I'd also like to point out how absolutely, phenomenally, incredible it is that the root DNS servers (the thing that makes it so you can type in google.com and actually go to google) are just controlled by a council of greybeards at ICANN/IANA, and that somehow has never been touched. I'm frankly shocked no Republicans have gone after them (not to give them any ideas). You could effectively blackhole every institution you don't like and I don't think there's any real legal framework around that.

 

[ch33zw1z]

Elon Musk's AI turns on him, labels him 'one of the most significant spreaders of misinformation on X'

His posts, it added, “can have real-world consequences."

fortune.com

Lulz

 

[amenx]

the internet was such a wretched idea. Across a population of people, it is the most dangerous weapon imaginable. To a person, none of this stuff really matters. But you start dealing with groups and large populations, the amount of destruction that can be done to human thinking, progress, health and safety is just unmatched by anything we can do to stop it.

That's what we are.

Without the internet, Fox News would still have sway over half the population. So you're not much better without it.

 

[Moonbeam]

I just saw a segment on Chris Hayes (msnbc) and he talked about Jared Goff of the Detroit lions having a bad game with 4 interceptions. Well during that game a Twitter user tweeted that Goff has had 6 gashes where he threw 4 interceptions and he was 6-0 when that happenes.

The tweet took off and the stat was repeated on a network sports show where one pundit asked the other, “is that stat true?”, to which they said, “Yes”.


Turns out the guy who tweeted that later tweeted out, “if you ever wondered how fast disinformation spreads, I complete made up that last tweet”. (Or something to that effect).

If I find the clip I’ll post it but it really hits home just how bad it is.

Anyone else see it?

I am having trouble believing this. I tweeted that people hate themselves and it went nowhere. People know a lie when they hear it apparently. Your idea, I think, needs some work. 😉😙

 

[ivwshane]

I am having trouble believing this. I tweeted that people hate themselves and it went nowhere. People know a lie when they hear it apparently. Your idea, I think, needs some work. 😉😙

My idea? I’m just repeating a true story.

 

[Moonbeam]

My idea? I’m just repeating a true story.

NP I was being sarcastic. My experience is that you can make people believe anything except you will never get them to believe the most important truth needed to end human misery, the fact that our real enemy is that we are unaware that we hate ourselves. That is a fact, naturally in my opinion as inner witness, that will not take off as a lie or a fact because it's the last thing anybody wants to discover they really feel. And this despite the profound evidence that an objective observer can see everywhere. Liberals and conservatives and everybody else, if other categories exist, are profoundly engaged in suppression of any such knowledge from conscious awareness. The result is the machine, humanity asleep at the wheel.

We know we are fucked. We just don't want to know why so the path up is blocked.

Every psychopath sees how the machine works and manipulates deeper sleepers for self advantage. The human race is becoming a colony of ants all heads bowed in guilt and shame before the manipulators who pile up their bodies to escape the quick sand.

May the sleeper awaken.

 

[cytg111]

NP I was being sarcastic. My experience is that you can make people believe anything except you will never get them to believe the most important truth needed to end human misery, the fact that our real enemy is that we are unaware that we hate ourselves. That is a fact, naturally in my opinion as inner witness, that will not take off as a lie or a fact because it's the last thing anybody wants to discover they really feel. And this despite the profound evidence that an objective observer can see everywhere. Liberals and conservatives and everybody else, if other categories exist, are profoundly engaged in suppression of any such knowledge from conscious awareness. The result is the machine, humanity asleep at the wheel.

We know we are fucked. We just don't want to know why so the path up is blocked.

Every psychopath sees how the machine works and manipulates deeper sleepers for self advantage. The human race is becoming a colony of ants all heads bowed in guilt and shame before the manipulators who pile up their bodies to escape the quick sand.

May the sleeper awaken.

You know the story about the frog and the scorpion right?
Have you ever considered that the awakened individual is the fluke and the average of our DNA is a nature of self destruction that cannot be denied.
Maybe it was always gonna go to shit, we just had a nice break, a fluke, before the regular scheduled program picks up again.

 

[ivwshane]

You know the story about the frog and the scorpion right?
Have you ever considered that the awakened individual is the fluke and the average of our DNA is a nature of self destruction that cannot be denied.
Maybe it was always gonna go to shit, we just had a nice break, a fluke, before the regular scheduled program picks up again.

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again; individually humans are very stupid animals, however together we are one of the smartest creatures ever created.

 

[Moonbeam]

You know the story about the frog and the scorpion right?
Have you ever considered that the awakened individual is the fluke and the average of our DNA is a nature of self destruction that cannot be denied.
Maybe it was always gonna go to shit, we just had a nice break, a fluke, before the regular scheduled program picks up again.

Isn’t that story about how reason can’t account for irrationality and will lose elections because campaigning on produces trust in rationality, that nobody would be stupid enough to sink a boat mid river. If you understand self hate, have observed your own self destructive impulses, you won’t be trusting that people will do the right thing. Only those who have retained some sense if inborn organic shame or have died on their own crosses can be counted on to act sanely.

The ignorant are perpetually in a state of shock. I for one, did not think the country was so far gone it would elect Trump, despite all that I know.

The origin of human insanity is tied to the use of abstract thinking made possible by the early associations formed using language to name things that do not exist. Language created the tree of knowledge. Trees are places where human apes used to sleep oblivious of the idea if sin.

 

[cytg111]

Isn’t that story about how reason can’t account for irrationality and will lose elections because campaigning on produces trust in rationality, that nobody would be stupid enough to sink a boat mid river. If you understand self hate, have observed your own self destructive impulses, you won’t be trusting that people will do the right thing. Only those who have retained some sense if inborn organic shame or have died on their own crosses can be counted on to act sanely.

The ignorant are perpetually in a state of shock. I for one, did not think the country was so far gone it would elect Trump, despite all that I know.

The origin of human insanity is tied to the use of abstract thinking made possible by the early associations formed using language to name things that do not exist. Language created the tree of knowledge. Trees are places where human apes used to sleep oblivious of the idea if sin.

Yea I hear all that. DNA is still gonna DNA though, Scorpion still gonna sting.

 

[pete6032]

This is an egregious example of misinformation. One of the top upvoted posts on Reddit's "Fluent in Finance" community.

https://www.reddit.com/r/FluentInFinance/comments/1hg7nlw/dont_let_them_gaslight_you

 

[FelixDeCat]

We pay FICA taxes, so that much is true. Its also true they count this in the their budgets and spend it immediately.

 

[Amused]

This is an egregious example of misinformation. One of the top upvoted posts on Reddit's "Fluent in Finance" community.

https://www.reddit.com/r/FluentInFinance/comments/1hg7nlw/dont_let_them_gaslight_you

What part of that is misinformation?

 

[pete6032]

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