how easy is it to fry your processor?

[E3Art]

Ive never really overclocked seriously before but im building a new system and i think im gonna go for it. Im getting an XP 1800+ and im gonna try to unlock the multiplier. My question is, how easy is it to fry my processor, what settings should i try or not try and what temp. are considered bad. im going to use ASII and a pan8040. I would appreciate any advice or websites you could point me to. ive read most of the post about the subject from the last few days but anything you can tell me will be helpful. Im also worried about smashing my cpu when i put my HS on, what advice can you give me to make sure i do it safely

Anandtech rocks

 

[Jerboy]

<< Ive never really overclocked seriously before but im building a new system and i think im gonna go for it. Im getting an XP 1800+ and im gonna try to unlock the multiplier. My question is, how easy is it to fry my processor, what settings should i try or not try and what temp. are considered bad. im going to use ASII and a pan8040. I would appreciate any advice or websites you could point me to. ive read most of the post about the subject from the last few days but anything you can tell me will be helpful. Im also worried about smashing my cpu when i put my HS on, what advice can you give me to make sure i do it safely

Anandtech rocks >>



Is this a first sytem you're building?

first timer+gigantic heatsink+multiplier tampering+putting ASII on the shim usually= damaged processor

It seriously doesn't take a whole lot to destroy a heatsink. Push on the heatsink during installation and you have a cracked core. Power up the computer with improperly installed HS and you'll have completely destroyed processor in five seconds.

 

[E3Art]

no, ive built a lot of systems but normally i get the motherboard and processor already put together, I have done it before but ive been reading a lot of post where people are screwing it up and since its been a while i want to make sure ive done it right

 

[AkumaX]

<< Anandtech rocks >>







pretty easy if you ask me!

 

[Jerboy]

<< no, ive built a lot of systems but normally i get the motherboard and processor already put together, I have done it before but ive been reading a lot of post where people are screwing it up and since its been a while i want to make sure ive done it right >>



Follow these steps and I think you'll be safe, but I'm not paying if you break it

1. Place your motherboard on the foam thing or anti-static thing from the mobo package on kitchen counter or other well lit solid surface. I chose kitchen, because kitchen is usually well lit. YOU SHOULDN'T ignore this step.

2. Bring the CPU to the work area and touch a faucet right before handling CPU to protect it from static.

3. Install the CPU into socket and make sure its installed flat

4. Apply white thermal compound on CPU core(purple part). If your heatsink has gummy tape thing on it you don't need to do this.

5. Recessed side of heatsink should face raised side of socket. Hook the loop on non recessed side of heatsink first, gently place heatsink on top and center it.

6. Without touching the heatsink push down the clip with finger or screw driver and hook it to plastic tab on the socket. Be careful not to stab your mobo with screw driver.

7. Finally don't pick up your board by heatsink

 

[Henny]

Athlon has a heat problem. (see Tom's hardware) It will self destruct vs. thriottle back like a P4 in an overheat situation.

Make sure you buy a high quality heatsink/fan, install it correctly, and make sure your MB supports H/W monitoring and shuts the system down at a preset temp. threshold.

 

[Wind]

To add further :

1. Make sure the ASII is a paper thin layer. dun let those goo touch any of those bridges on the CPU.
2. Use a flat head screwdriver to push in those clip. U dun wanna have a numb fingers.
3. Be careful not to slip the screwdriver & sratch the mobo.
4. After installing, pick up the mobo & look between the HSF & CPU to see if the HSF is seated properly.
5. It takes around 5-10 seconds to fry an Athlon.

 

[CTho9305]

<< Athlon has a heat problem. (see Tom's hardware) It will self destruct vs. thriottle back like a P4 in an overheat situation.

Make sure you buy a high quality heatsink/fan, install it correctly, and make sure your MB supports H/W monitoring and shuts the system down at a preset temp. threshold. >>



<sarcasm>gee, thanks for the really useful information!</sarcasm>. you show me a heatsinkless P4 boot into windows. also, demonstrate heatsink removal on YOUR p4. and you show me a reasonable possibility where a heatsink might fall off an athy during use. then you might be more than another flaming zealot.

E3Art: for my room-mate's heatsink (volcano) and some others, i've found its easiest to have two people both with flat-head screwdrivers. one pushes down on the heatsink clip, the other twists to get the clip out over the tab on the socket. odds are low you'd kill something due to bad paste - you'll just get high temps, which you will (hopefully) notice.

 

[Chriz]

Uh, if you stab your mobo with a screw driver while trying to clip the heatsink on and you don't see a scratch or hole, is it safe to assume its ok?

 

[Jerboy]

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<< Athlon has a heat problem. (see Tom's hardware) It will self destruct vs. thriottle back like a P4 in an overheat situation.

Make sure you buy a high quality heatsink/fan, install it correctly, and make sure your MB supports H/W monitoring and shuts the system down at a preset temp. threshold. >>



<sarcasm>gee, thanks for the really useful information!</sarcasm>. you show me a heatsinkless P4 boot into windows. also, demonstrate heatsink removal on YOUR p4. and you show me a reasonable possibility where a heatsink might fall off an athy during use. then you might be more than another flaming zealot.

E3Art: for my room-mate's heatsink (volcano) and some others, i've found its easiest to have two people both with flat-head screwdrivers. one pushes down on the heatsink clip, the other twists to get the clip out over the tab on the socket. odds are low you'd kill something due to bad paste - you'll just get high temps, which you will (hopefully) notice. >>



LOL. Why are we debating over whether or not Intel is more abuse proof than AMD and vice versa? If installed properly they're both good processors. Snapple plastic bottle and Snapple glass bottle both performs equally well, one is just less forgiving of abuse. Installation that cause CPU to throttle down or burn-out is not proper.

 

[CTho9305]

<< Uh, if you stab your mobo with a screw driver while trying to clip the heatsink on and you don't see a scratch or hole, is it safe to assume its ok? >>



its not a safe assumption, but there's a good chance it will work. Done it twice. as long as you dont knock anything off. put some paper or something on the mobo to protect the traces if you're worried.

 

[CTho9305]

<< LOL. Why are we debating over whether or not Intel is more abuse proof than AMD and vice versa? If installed properly they're both good processors. Snapple plastic bottle and Snapple glass bottle both performs equally well, one is just less forgiving of abuse. Installation that cause CPU to throttle down or burn-out is not proper. >>



agreed - i'm just asking him to demonstrate with his money before bashing chips that fail in a situation which, as you said, is very unlikely.