How does your gpu/gpus stack up to the Firestrike Graphics score of the GTX 1080?

[guskline]

I saw the "leaked" (I think VideoCardZ.com) Firestrike scores for the GTX 1080. They have both regular and OC'd graphic scores.

I emphasize graphics because from what I know of Firestrike the overall score varies widely by the cpu you have.

I decided to run both of my rigs below to compare to the published graphics scores of the 1080.

My 980TI SC has a core clock of 1102 so it is above reference stock and my R9 290s run in CrossFire (CF) are stock 1000 core/1300 memory.

Here we go:

Firestrike Regular Graphics:
GTX 1080=21828; GTX 980TI SC=18503; R9-290 CF=23199

Firestrike Extreme Graphics
GTX 1080=9338; GTX 980TI SC = 8561; R9-290 CF = 10166

FireStrike Ultra Graphics
GTX 1080=4998; GTX 980TI SC = 4233

Absent some big error on the run by VideoCardz.com the obvious conclusion to me is the GTX 1080 IS a nice step up from the GTX 980TI.

I originally started with 2 R9 290s in my 5960X rig and wanted to replace them with a single card that was near the performance of both of them. At the time I made the move, June 2015, I had the Titan X, GTX 980 TI and the Fury X. Titan X was too expensive and the Fury X had 2 problems. It was VERY hard to find AND it wasn't able to be custom water cooled (important to me. Thus the move to the GTX 980TI.

Obvious question is will I buy a GTX 1080? Well, a tough one to answer. I want to eventually replace the 2 R9 290s but would prefer an AMD product. Fury X is out. No 8G memory and cannot custom water cool.

Polaris looks like it will be faster than the 290/390 series but doubtful that it will be in the league of the 1080.

I'm really interested in the Big Vega but how long will the wait be?

Anyway, the run for Firestrike scores was fun and eye opening.

What are your Firestrike Graphics scores?

 

[YBS1]

Well, that site showed the overclocked 1080 graphics score on Ultra settings to be 6232, assuming perfect scaling and being limited to only two way SLI that would give a score of 12,464. Still shy of my current 14,179, so it would be a bit of a downgrade from my current situation in titles that scale properly. Going to have to wait for the big chips to roll out.

 

[Sweepr]

Rumour:

http://vrworld.com/2016/05/10/pascal-secrets-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080

 

[guskline]

Thanks for the post YBS1. WOW I forgot you are running TRI WC'd 980 TIs.

Maybe for your "backup" 3930k rig?:thumbsup:

 

[guskline]

Before people with crazy overclocked GM200 start comparing, don't forget this:

Thanks for the post Sweepr. BTW none of my comparisons of present cards (980TI or CF 290s) are "crazy" OCs. They are stock from the factory.

AND these are FireStrike Graphics scores NOT 3D scores which are much higher.

If I have time, I run OC figures that were stable for my 980TI SC and my R9 290s.

 

[YBS1]

Thanks for the post YBS1. WOW I forgot you are running TRI WC'd 980 TIs.

Maybe for your "backup" 3930k rig?:thumbsup:

Well, two of my three HOF 980TIs will get dropped down to the 3930K when I upgrade to something. I wouldn't mind having a single 1080 though just to replace the two 780s that are currently in it, not going to pay $600 dollars for it though. That little boy is spoiled enough.

Now....if the new cards bring about an awesome firesale on an AMD Radeon Pro Duo, I wouldn't mind having one of those with an EK block sitting in the 3930K.

 

[tential]

It's obvious gasoline. Polaris 10 crossfire! Side grade for the power consumption still be cheaper and faster than a 1080

 

[Grooveriding]

That Videocardz 'leak' looked to be quite likely a complete fake. I'm more comfortable with historical looks at how new GPU releases have gone and even nvidia's own statements of 25%, which I'll deduct 5% from to account for PR best case statements, bringing it to a 20% average improvement.

I get about 10.5K graphics on extreme with a single 980ti @ 1500 with a 5960x.

If we say 20% for the 1080, with both cards at stock, how much better the 1080 further is for a 980ti user initially will come down to how well it overclocks. Right now there is a lot of the usual FUD and marketing being pushed. When reviews drop we'll have real data of how the card overclocks when we look at their results. You can find a rational average looking at all the review overclocked results, giving us a reasonable sense of what to expect. Then you can generally expect swings of -100 for the worst samples and +100 for golden samples from that average.

Aftermarket card hype in relation to overclocking is moot unless you are willing to do a BIOS mod, and if one is still possible on Pascal, to give the cards more voltage. The aftermarket cards allow better overclocks, but you are still at the mercy of nvidia greenlight and voltage restrictions, making every card sit in relation to the same average you see in launch reviews until you(if you can) give the card more voltage.

I think it's worth the switch personally. Nvidia's cards do not age well once they have a new generation out with driver optimizations in post launch games becoming very poor for the old generation. 980ti will be a great card for a while yet, until some big new game releases come out, then I expect to see its performance tank compared to the new cards. At release the 970 was in general slower than a 780ti and the 980 just a little faster, now they both blow right past that card. I expect the same scenario to play out here, but with more of a performance edge for the new cards at launch over the older cards due to a new process this time.

The context here is very similar to the GTX 680 launch; a die on the new process about 55% the size of the card its replacing. I think we'll see very similar percentile improvements to what we saw with the 680 vs 580 at launch.

 

[Arachnotronic]

It's obvious gasoline. Polaris 10 crossfire! Side grade for the power consumption still be cheaper and faster than a 1080

We know nothing about Polaris 10's performance, pricing, or availability yet, nor do we have reviews of GTX 1080 SLI scaling. And yet you are telling a forum member that a solution that we know very little about is superior to a solution that we know quite a bit about.

Interesting.

 

[DooKey]

We know nothing about Polaris 10's performance, pricing, or availability yet, nor do we have reviews of GTX 1080 SLI scaling. And yet you are telling a forum member that a solution that we know very little about is superior to a solution that we know quite a bit about.

Interesting.

Not to mention CF/SLI support in games currently sucks so you end up with single card performance anyway and the second card just stares at you.

 

[Arachnotronic]

Not to mention CF/SLI support in games currently sucks so you end up with single card performance anyway and the second card just stares at you.

Agreed. DooKey, I am actually strongly considering just going with a single GTX 1080 in each of my gaming systems. The single GPU perf out of the box should be good and the overclocking action should allow me to get close to the performance of my 980 Ti in SLI, but with much less heat/noise and of course the "smoothness" of a single card vs a multi-GPU setup.

 

[tential]

We know nothing about Polaris 10's performance, pricing, or availability yet, nor do we have reviews of GTX 1080 SLI scaling. And yet you are telling a forum member that a solution that we know very little about is superior to a solution that we know quite a bit about.

Interesting.

I know right? This may be hard for you to accept, but not everyone wants a 1080.

I want to eventually replace the 2 R9 290s but would prefer an AMD product. Fury X is out. No 8G memory and cannot custom water cool.

You can find me in another thread recommending a 1070 to someone. So what's your point?

 

[Arachnotronic]

I know right? This may be hard for you to accept, but not everyone wants a 1080.

Obviously.

You can find me in another thread recommending a 1070 to someone. So what's your point?

My point is that we should wait until Polaris 10 is out, or at the very least announced, before recommending it to people. It may be in the OP's best interest to wait for AMD's Vega architecture rather than go with Polaris 10, especially if it is -- as you describe -- a "side-grade" compared to what he already has.

Additionally, the OP seems to be impressed with the kind of performance that the GTX 1080 offers, so it's not as though it's an option that's completely off the table (although, yes, I'm fully aware that the OP likes to have one AMD system and one NVIDIA system, which is a cool way to do things).

Anyway, you seem to be dissing the 1080 in many threads and while I can understand that it's not a solution for everybody, the way you (and others) paint it is that it's the solution for suckers. That's what I have a problem with, especially as somebody who plans to buy at least one 1080.

 

[linkgoron]

Before people with crazy overclocked GM200 start comparing, don't forget this:

I will quote my other post, maybe people will have better answers in this thread (as my question is exactly related to the firestrike scores):

http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=38224996&postcount=824

Is it ordinary to get such a linear boost in performance with OC?

2.5/1.7=1.47
31286/21828=1.43
15280/10367=1.47
7369/4998=1.47

Also, is he using a reference card? Using the base 180 watts TDP, wouldn't the card need something like 270 watts for such an OC, which I assume needs an extra power connector (someone please correct me if I'm wrong)?

 

[guskline]

It's obvious gasoline. Polaris 10 crossfire! Side grade for the power consumption still be cheaper and faster than a 1080

I try to make this clear. I want to replace my 2 R9 290s with a single card at least as powerful as them combined.

 

[MagickMan]

My 980TIs at 1530MHz compare just fine.

 

[guskline]

My 980TIs at 1530MHz compare just fine.

WOW 1530Mhz! Is that a modded BIOS?

My 980TI SC starts having problems with MSI Afterburner if I up the core much over 210.

I ran it at 1302 Core and The Firestrike graphics was 21,100.

 

[Flapdrol1337]

My factory oc'd 670 does 7388 on the regular firestrike.

1070 should easily double that by the looks of it.

 

[tential]

Anyway, you seem to be dissing the 1080 in many threads and while I can understand that it's not a solution for everybody, the way you (and others) paint it is that it's the solution for suckers.

I've stated that I can't blame ANYONE for getting a 1080 because AMD has no alternative and ceded the high end without a fight and I LOVE luxury products. If you want to pay a premium for the 1080, you won't hear complaints from me.
I've also stated, multiple times, that my recommendation is for 980Ti owners to upgrade to the 1080 and sell the 980Ti....

Besides the fact that you're saying that I've said something without quoting me and thus giving me nowhere I can respond to your claims and putting words in my mouth that are simply not true,

That's what I have a problem with, especially as somebody who plans to buy at least one 1080.

Seems like you've already planned to buy a card without knowing the performance of the competition. So you've planned to buy at least 1 1080 without knowing the performance (possibly spend $1400+ if you plan on buying more than 1), and you are defending the 1080 as a card.

Since we're pointing out interesting things...

Interesting...

Very interesting...

I try to make this clear. I want to replace my 2 R9 290s with a single card at least as powerful as them combined.

I'd go with the 1080Ti or Vega OP given the single card solution. None of the current cards are remotely impressive upgrades from what you have now. Like I've said before, this is kind of a boring launch and really isn't what I think anyone was hoping for when we envisioned 14/16nm cards releasing.

 

[FFFF]

My factory oc'd 670 does 7388 on the regular firestrike.

1070 should easily double that by the looks of it.

Almost triple most likely.

 

[thesmokingman]

http://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/3100892/fs/1559171

Two of my 290x w/ tess on vs a pro w/ tess off. Look at the graphics score lol. They're still fast enough to tide me over until cards from both sides are out with real benchmarks in games and prices to mellow out.

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/3100892
http://www.3dmark.com/fs/1559171

 

[tential]

http://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/3100892/fs/1559171

Two of my 290x w/ tess on vs a pro w/ tess off. Look at the graphics score lol. They're still fast enough to tide me over until cards from both sides are out with real benchmarks in games and prices to mellow out.

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/3100892
http://www.3dmark.com/fs/1559171

So you're waiting for Vega? Which I expect to come after the 1080ti (Nvidia launches are so buttery smooth I wish I had that butter for my pancakes). That's going to be awhile, and even worse, AMD loves to make you wait even longer for them to give launch date than Nvidia. AMD launches are like watching a train wreck in slow motion so really, that last bit of a wait after the 1080ti comes out will suck.

If Vega comes out earlier though, at least waiting for the 1080Ti will be fun. Nvidia knows how to launch a card it will be exciting just like the 1070/1080.

 

[thesmokingman]

So you're waiting for Vega? Which I expect to come after the 1080ti (Nvidia launches are so buttery smooth I wish I had that butter for my pancakes). That's going to be awhile, and even worse, AMD loves to make you wait even longer for them to give launch date than Nvidia. AMD launches are like watching a train wreck in slow motion so really, that last bit of a wait after the 1080ti comes out will suck.

If Vega comes out earlier though, at least waiting for the 1080Ti will be fun. Nvidia knows how to launch a card it will be exciting just like the 1070/1080.

You're like just an all around negative dude huh?


You just love calling people out don't you? Keep it up, you will be losing access here soon.

-Rvenger

 

[tential]

You're like just an all around negative dude huh?

If you feel that Nvidia launching a card well is negative then yes. Personally I love Nvidia card launches....

 

[thesmokingman]

If you feel that Nvidia launching a card well is negative then yes. Personally I love Nvidia card launches....

What's you're deal? You're like creating some argument here, injecting yourself into my post. :\

It's not welcome so go startup your crap with someone else.