How does salary work for NFL players that get cut before the season?

Gunslinger08

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Say you signed a 1 year deal for $700k that doesn't include any bonuses or escalators. You go to mini-camp/OTAs/training camp/preseason, but get cut today. How much money did you make?
 

Rastus

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I'm sure all that stuff is negotiated in the contract. If the team was bidding against other teams, the player probably has more leverage to have more guarentees while someone whom no other team was interested is probably out in the cold.
 

ktehmok

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Originally posted by: joshsquall
Say you signed a 1 year deal for $700k that doesn't include any bonuses or escalators. You go to mini-camp/OTAs/training camp/preseason, but get cut today. How much money did you make?

$700K

A contract is a contract.
 

chuckywang

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Originally posted by: ktehmok
Originally posted by: joshsquall
Say you signed a 1 year deal for $700k that doesn't include any bonuses or escalators. You go to mini-camp/OTAs/training camp/preseason, but get cut today. How much money did you make?

$700K

A contract is a contract.

Neg, NFL contracts are not guaranteed. If you get cut or released, you don't get anything.
 

JS80

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Originally posted by: ktehmok
Originally posted by: joshsquall
Say you signed a 1 year deal for $700k that doesn't include any bonuses or escalators. You go to mini-camp/OTAs/training camp/preseason, but get cut today. How much money did you make?

$700K

A contract is a contract.

Fail. There is guarantee money aka signing bonus, and then there is defined yearly amounts thereafter. If you get cut you get $0 non-guarantee money.
 

ric1287

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Originally posted by: ktehmok
Originally posted by: joshsquall
Say you signed a 1 year deal for $700k that doesn't include any bonuses or escalators. You go to mini-camp/OTAs/training camp/preseason, but get cut today. How much money did you make?

$700K

A contract is a contract.

why post so matter-of-factly if you don't know what you're talking about?
 

ktehmok

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You guys cannot read. The OP asked about a signed 1 year deal. This isn't a question of being drafted, or free agent try-outs, or flunkies in training camp. A signed contract is binding and pays accordingly. Unless his agent is an idiot.

 

newb111

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Originally posted by: ktehmok
You guys cannot read. The OP asked about a signed 1 year deal. This isn't a question of being drafted, or free agent try-outs, or flunkies in training camp. A signed contract is binding and pays accordingly. Unless his agent is an idiot.

A "700k" contract in the NFL is not guaranteed money.
 

zerocool84

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Originally posted by: chuckywang
Originally posted by: ktehmok
Originally posted by: joshsquall
Say you signed a 1 year deal for $700k that doesn't include any bonuses or escalators. You go to mini-camp/OTAs/training camp/preseason, but get cut today. How much money did you make?

$700K

A contract is a contract.

Neg, NFL contracts are not guaranteed. If you get cut or released, you don't get anything.

this
 

goog40

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Originally posted by: ktehmok
You guys cannot read. The OP asked about a signed 1 year deal. This isn't a question of being drafted, or free agent try-outs, or flunkies in training camp. A signed contract is binding and pays accordingly. Unless his agent is an idiot.

double fail
 

DrPizza

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Originally posted by: ktehmok
You guys cannot read. The OP asked about a signed 1 year deal. This isn't a question of being drafted, or free agent try-outs, or flunkies in training camp. A signed contract is binding and pays accordingly. Unless his agent is an idiot.

And, you've read the language in these contracts? Hmmmm? Or, are you just assuming the contract says "by signing here, we agree to pay you xxxxxx dollars, regardless of whether you play or not." Gee, when you read that line the way I wrote it, you must realize that a pro football team must have morons for lawyers if that's what they'd agree to. What incentive is there for a player to put forth any effort to stay on the team once he's guaranteed to get paid. Ohhhh, you're thinking "well, that way, they can play the next year and get more money." Good thought, if you thought that. What's the average length of a career in the NFL? 8 years? So, 12.5% of the players are at the end of their careers. Lineman, "well, this is probably my last year. I signed the contract, so screw them, I'm letting guys through so they cut me from the team. I'm not going to abuse my body any more."

Doesn't seem logical then, for an NFL team to offer all the money up front, regardless of whether or not the player makes the final cut. Does it?
 

ric1287

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Originally posted by: ktehmok
You guys cannot read. The OP asked about a signed 1 year deal. This isn't a question of being drafted, or free agent try-outs, or flunkies in training camp. A signed contract is binding and pays accordingly. Unless his agent is an idiot.
WRONGOOOOOO
 

ric1287

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Originally posted by: Syringer
Omg someone on the interwebs is wrong!!

I don't care that he's completly wrong, I'm just puzzled why, when multiple people say "you are wrong", wouldn't you do a quick google before posting wrong information again.
 

newb111

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Originally posted by: Syringer
Omg someone on the interwebs is wrong!!

The beauty of the internet is you are never wrong. Just keep arguing until people give up.
 

esquared

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The contact is contingent on him making the team (final cut). Unless it was guaranteed money, in writing, he would get zero.
 

Syringer

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Originally posted by: ric1287
Originally posted by: Syringer
Omg someone on the interwebs is wrong!!

I don't care that he's completly wrong, I'm just puzzled why, when multiple people say "you are wrong", wouldn't you do a quick google before posting wrong information again.

It is an askew practice.
 

lupi

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Originally posted by: newb111
Originally posted by: ktehmok
You guys cannot read. The OP asked about a signed 1 year deal. This isn't a question of being drafted, or free agent try-outs, or flunkies in training camp. A signed contract is binding and pays accordingly. Unless his agent is an idiot.

A "700k" contract in the NFL is not guaranteed money.

a "700k" contract in any league is not guaranteed money unless the contract specifically states so. There are no specifications on any of the pro leagues that separately guarantees a contracts value.


As for the original OP, the preseason and post season are governed by separate rules from the league/collective bargained agreement on how much players get (outside of things such as a bonus for being active during the playoffs). For the NFL you basically get nothing until the preseason games start, then for each week you are with the team that they play a game you get a game check. Not exactly sure of the amount and it probably scales with things such as years in the league, but think along the lines of $10k per game. And So even with a stacked rosters of say 75 people, the owner is forking out less than 1 million for a game and still taking in full gate price as they required season ticket holders to buy all preseason games.
 

GagHalfrunt

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Originally posted by: ktehmok
You guys cannot read. The OP asked about a signed 1 year deal. This isn't a question of being drafted, or free agent try-outs, or flunkies in training camp. A signed contract is binding and pays accordingly. Unless his agent is an idiot.

The idiot here is you. By default NFL contracts are NOT guaranteed. Only players with leverage get any of their contract guaranteed and even then it's not usually for the complete amount, only for a percentage.

As others have suggested, if you don't know what the hell you're talking about at least have the common sense to shut up.


Originally posted by: esquared
The contact is contingent on him making the team (final cut). Unless it was guaranteed money, in writing, he would get zero.


That's wrong too. Regardless of contract players do get paid for the preseason. It works on a scale, something like $700 a week for rookies and $1,100 a week for veterans.
 

alkemyst

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yeah it's a fail train here...in the end 10 people will not be right, but you are the one that's wrong.
 

esquared

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Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
Originally posted by: ktehmok
You guys cannot read. The OP asked about a signed 1 year deal. This isn't a question of being drafted, or free agent try-outs, or flunkies in training camp. A signed contract is binding and pays accordingly. Unless his agent is an idiot.

The idiot here is you. By default NFL contracts are NOT guaranteed. Only players with leverage get any of their contract guaranteed and even then it's not usually for the complete amount, only for a percentage.

As others have suggested, if you don't know what the hell you're talking about at least have the common sense to shut up.


Originally posted by: esquared
The contact is contingent on him making the team (final cut). Unless it was guaranteed money, in writing, he would get zero.


That's wrong too. Regardless of contract players do get paid for the preseason. It works on a scale, something like $700 a week for rookies and $1,100 a week for veterans.

I was commenting on the contract that would be for the regular season. Not what he is making in the preseason. I should have been a little more clear
 

Crono

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To put it simply, it depends on the terms of the contract, just like any other legal agreement.
 

JEDIYoda

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Originally posted by: ktehmok
You guys cannot read. The OP asked about a signed 1 year deal. This isn't a question of being drafted, or free agent try-outs, or flunkies in training camp. A signed contract is binding and pays accordingly. Unless his agent is an idiot.

No your the idiot!
No NFL team would ever singn a contract that was binding even if the person did not make the team!!!