How does evolution explain homosexuality?

[Howard]

Originally posted by: ManyBeers

Originally posted by: RoloMather
The majority of homosexuals don't have offspring due to mate preferences. Therefore they should be negatively selected out during the whole process of evolution.

So why does homosexuality exist?

It's just a popular fad right now, like CB radios were a few years back. It will eventually die out like all fads do and it won't be 'cool' to be gay anymore.

If you had two children and you were all in a burning house, and you could only save one, would you save the gay one or the straight one?

 

[ManyBeers]

Originally posted by: v1001
It''s a genetic disorder

Honestly I mean think about it. Something went wrong with the genetic code. This isn't a normal and beneficial development.

Some people think it has nothing to do with genetics and is just bad behavior troublemakers so to speak like kids who fart in class and think it's funny. Same deal.

 

[ManyBeers]

Originally posted by: Howard

Originally posted by: ManyBeers

Originally posted by: RoloMather
The majority of homosexuals don't have offspring due to mate preferences. Therefore they should be negatively selected out during the whole process of evolution.

So why does homosexuality exist?

It's just a popular fad right now, like CB radios were a few years back. It will eventually die out like all fads do and it won't be 'cool' to be gay anymore.

If you had two children and you were all in a burning house, and you could only save one, would you save the gay one or the straight one?

We would either all survive or none would. Children are rarely gay or straight. Their just children.IMO

 

[SirStev0]

Originally posted by: v1001
It''s a genetic disorder

Honestly I mean think about it. Something went wrong with the genetic code. This isn't a normal and beneficial development.

It is a genetic trait. That is like calling a redhead a genetic disorder because they sun burn easier.


On second thought, I just realized I was defending gingers... those dirty day walkers probably are genetic diseases... and vampires... ewwwwwwww.

 

[sandorski]

Procreation ability has no bearing on the continued existence of Homosexuals. So their EOL status has been greatly exaggerated.

 

[gorcorps]

Originally posted by: Howard

Originally posted by: ManyBeers

Originally posted by: RoloMather
The majority of homosexuals don't have offspring due to mate preferences. Therefore they should be negatively selected out during the whole process of evolution.

So why does homosexuality exist?

It's just a popular fad right now, like CB radios were a few years back. It will eventually die out like all fads do and it won't be 'cool' to be gay anymore.

If you had two children and you were all in a burning house, and you could only save one, would you save the gay one or the straight one?

the white one

 

[IGBT]

population density. it's also observed among rabbits and rats when density crosses a threshold.

 

[ChaoZ]

Maybe it's to prevent overpopulation, like diseases. Just a thought.

 

[SirStev0]

Originally posted by: sandorski
Procreation ability has no bearing on the continued existence of Homosexuals. So their EOL status has been greatly exaggerated.

EOL status?

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: SirStev0

Originally posted by: sandorski
Procreation ability has no bearing on the continued existence of Homosexuals. So their EOL status has been greatly exaggerated.

EOL status?

End of Line

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

Evolution operates on populations, not individuals.

 

[TruePaige]

Originally posted by: gorcorps

Originally posted by: Howard

Originally posted by: ManyBeers

Originally posted by: RoloMather
The majority of homosexuals don't have offspring due to mate preferences. Therefore they should be negatively selected out during the whole process of evolution.

So why does homosexuality exist?

It's just a popular fad right now, like CB radios were a few years back. It will eventually die out like all fads do and it won't be 'cool' to be gay anymore.

If you had two children and you were all in a burning house, and you could only save one, would you save the gay one or the straight one?

the white one

:laugh:

That's bad.

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: ChaoZ
Maybe it's to prevent overpopulation, like diseases. Just a thought.

Thought crossed my mind, but it has always existed. So that isn't really a valid explanation. If it tends to increase over time, might be an explanation, but I think other factors probably would cause that. Everything from Pollutants to simple Social Norms can possibly influence such things.

 

[SirStev0]

Originally posted by: Cerpin Taxt
Evolution operates on populations, not individuals.

Theoretically, if there are certain genes that cause men to be exclusively attracted to only men, then yes the population should push to losing these genes as they would make the individual unable to breed. However, as someone already pointed out, homosexuality seems to act more like eye color which is multifactorial and has hundreds of different combo's working together in each person than for instance attached ears, which follows simple mendelian.

With that said, social pressures to live in "heterosexual" relationships would contribute to maintaining any genes that would cause same sex attraction.

So next time you are disgusted by all the "fags" now in the world, you can thank your religion and social norms for demanding people to get married and have kids. Keep them pushing on the "gay genes".

 

[ManyBeers]

Originally posted by: v1001
It''s a genetic disorder

Honestly I mean think about it. Something went wrong with the genetic code. This isn't a normal and beneficial development.

I don't think it's beneficial either. In fact I think they're lying. Does anybody honestly believe a man would rather be in bed with a man than this
That's sick if true.

 

[Brainonska511]

Who let the troll out of the box?

 

[ManyBeers]

Originally posted by: gorcorps

Originally posted by: Howard

Originally posted by: ManyBeers

Originally posted by: RoloMather
The majority of homosexuals don't have offspring due to mate preferences. Therefore they should be negatively selected out during the whole process of evolution.

So why does homosexuality exist?

It's just a popular fad right now, like CB radios were a few years back. It will eventually die out like all fads do and it won't be 'cool' to be gay anymore.

If you had two children and you were all in a burning house, and you could only save one, would you save the gay one or the straight one?

the white one

LOL

 

[SirStev0]

Originally posted by: ManyBeers

Originally posted by: v1001
It''s a genetic disorder

Honestly I mean think about it. Something went wrong with the genetic code. This isn't a normal and beneficial development.

I don't think it's beneficial either. In fact I think they're lying. Does anybody honestly believe a man would rather be in bed with a man than this
That's sick if true.

You are probably just uncomfortable with your own sexuality, hence your need to show off your masculinity and heterosexuality.

 

[Cerpin Taxt]

Originally posted by: SirStev0

Originally posted by: Cerpin Taxt
Evolution operates on populations, not individuals.

Theoretically, if there are certain genes that cause men to be exclusively attracted to only men, then yes the population should push to losing these genes as they would make the individual unable to breed. However, as someone already pointed out, homosexuality seems to act more like eye color which is multifactorial and has hundreds of different combo's working together in each person than for instance attached ears, which follows simple mendelian.

With that said, social pressures to live in "heterosexual" relationships would contribute to maintaining any genes that would cause same sex attraction.

What I was saying was that as long as the population of a species continues to propagate, there grows a freedom for individuals to behave in such a way that may be detrimental to the propagation of their individual genes, but overall negligibly affecting that opportunity for the species.

That assumes, of course, that homosexuality is 1.) genetic, and 2.) actually detrimental to the propagation of the species as a whole, even if virtually negligibly. It is conceivable that homosexual behavior is advantageous to the propagation of a species, for example, if the existence of homosexuals helped to ensure that the offspring of heterosexual relationships survived to reproduce, moreso than if the homosexuals did not exist.

So next time you are disgusted by all the "fags" now in the world, you can thank your religion and social norms for demanding people to get married and have kids. Keep them pushing on the "gay genes".

If this paragraph is directed at me, you have grossly misunderstood the point I was making.

 

[ManyBeers]

Originally posted by: SirStev0

Originally posted by: ManyBeers

Originally posted by: v1001
It''s a genetic disorder

Honestly I mean think about it. Something went wrong with the genetic code. This isn't a normal and beneficial development.

I don't think it's beneficial either. In fact I think they're lying. Does anybody honestly believe a man would rather be in bed with a man than this
That's sick if true.

You are probably just uncomfortable with your own sexuality, hence your need to show off your masculinity and heterosexuality.

Not true.
I hav'nt had sex with anything in over 25 years so I've grown to be pretty comfortable with my 'sexuality'.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Originally posted by: SparkyJJO
Because there are always gonna be screwed up people in the world.

your homophobic and an idiot!

 

[DangerAardvark]

Originally posted by: ManyBeers

Originally posted by: v1001
It''s a genetic disorder

Honestly I mean think about it. Something went wrong with the genetic code. This isn't a normal and beneficial development.

I don't think it's beneficial either. In fact I think they're lying. Does anybody honestly believe a man would rather be in bed with a man than this
That's sick if true.

Natalie Wood? This is why I don't respect my elders.

 

[0roo0roo]

u confuse evolution for perfection. if something isnt worth the effort to fix or implement better quality control then it stays broken. consider it an acceptable defect rate. it may have been a side effect of a benificial mutation long ago...and is now just a hold over..who knows. but evolution doesn't weed out every weakness. its a good enough kinda thing.

you might as well ask why fertization is so wasteful. something like 80% of conceptions are failed early, so early that most are never noticed. its just how it is, costs vs benefits work out to be wasteful sometimes. plus no pressure, its been a long time since hominids have required massive litters of children to maintain their populations. for the longest time people have had the ability to easily outstrip their resources.

 

[frostedflakes]

Keep in mind that until recently, homosexuality hasn't exactly been very accepted. Assuming there are genetic factors, a lot of people throughout history have probably passed these on because they were pressured into heterosexual relationships by society. Being openly gay and embracing the lifestyle is a relatively new phenomenon.

 

[eits]

how does evolution explain autism/down syndrome/birth defects, etc?