How does angelfire make money?

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shortylickens

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Doesnt bandwidth have a cost? If somebody stopped using their site in 2003 why does angelfire keep it up and running? Where does that money come from?
 

John Connor

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I haven't heard that name in ages. Or Lycos. They probably make money injecting Ads in your website.

Angelfire is an Internet service that offers free space for Web sites. It was founded in 1996 and was originally a combination Web site building and medical transcription service. Eventually the site dropped the transcription service and focused solely on Web site hosting, offering both free and paid memberships. The site was bought by Mountain View, California–based WhoWhere in 1997, which, in turn, was subsequently purchased by the search engine company Lycos in 1998.[2] As Lycos already offered Web page hosting with advertising through its acquisition of Tripod.com, Angelfire's offering was modified to also have parity with Tripod, including the addition of an increased amount of advertising, but also by offering more disk space.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angelfire
 
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Red Squirrel

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lol wow forgot about those. yeah does make you wonder how they make money. A typical dedicated server cost about $100/mo, heck even a colo will cost around that for 1 server. So you need to be able to make enough money to at least cover that cost. Obviously they'll have more than one server.

I guess companies like that probably have their own data centres though, cheaper as you just pay for the server once and just have to pay for the bandwidth, which they probably don't need THAT much of, maybe a couple 10g links. But considering 99% of people use adblock I don't see how they still make enough money off ads alone.
 

destrekor

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If a site hasn't been updated in many years, it is probably safe to assume traffic to the site is very minimal.

Space is cheap. Bandwidth costs, but when you consider a site that basically uses no bandwidth - they don't care to police up used space.
 

mrjminer

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If a site hasn't been updated in many years, it is probably safe to assume traffic to the site is very minimal.

Space is cheap. Bandwidth costs, but when you consider a site that basically uses no bandwidth - they don't care to police up used space.

Especially with the space limits back in the day and/or the amount of space people actually use. They could probably host hundreds of thousands of ancient sites on a single NAS, maybe even just a couple of large drives. Also, it's not like everyone had an Angelfire site.
 

Greenman

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I'd say <10% of users use ad blocking tools.

Why would anyone not use adblock? When ads were small and discrete they were an acceptable part of surfing the web, but when they became huge flashing multicolored obscenity's, something had to be done.

There are sites that can't be looked at without adblock, go look at anything owned by VerticalScope, the content can't be found through the ad's.
 

TridenT

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Why would anyone not use adblock? When ads were small and discrete they were an acceptable part of surfing the web, but when they became huge flashing multicolored obscenity's, something had to be done.

There are sites that can't be looked at without adblock, go look at anything owned by VerticalScope, the content can't be found through the ad's.

I know people who don't have ad blockers because they want to support companies by viewing their ads.

I also know that MOST people don't know ad blockers exist and MOST people don't give a shit.

Also, stop using adblock/adblockplus/whatever. Use uBlock Origin. The rest of them are sketchy now. They've been compromised.
 

Red Squirrel

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Why would anyone not use adblock? When ads were small and discrete they were an acceptable part of surfing the web, but when they became huge flashing multicolored obscenity's, something had to be done.

There are sites that can't be looked at without adblock, go look at anything owned by VerticalScope, the content can't be found through the ad's.

Yeah pretty much. Adblock software is pretty much like installing drivers, it's just part of the regular routine when you setup a new computer/installation. If I forget to do it, I am quickly reminded the first time I try to go on pretty much any site. Youtube for example is pretty much unusable without it because of freaking commercials. Commercials are one thing on TV... but on the internet? That's gone too far.

Some people may unblock the ads for sites they support but can't imagine not having the software in first place.
 

lxskllr

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Why would anyone not use adblock? When ads were small and discrete they were an acceptable part of surfing the web, but when they became huge flashing multicolored obscenity's, something had to be done.

There are sites that can't be looked at without adblock, go look at anything owned by VerticalScope, the content can't be found through the ad's.

Ya know, I kind of liked the garish flashing ads on sites. Kind of like walking through NYC, and having your senses raped :^D

If it weren't for the bandwidth suck(on mobile), security/privacy implications, I wouldn't block ads.
 

Maximilian

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I know people who don't have ad blockers because they want to support companies by viewing their ads.

I also know that MOST people don't know ad blockers exist and MOST people don't give a shit.

Also, stop using adblock/adblockplus/whatever. Use uBlock Origin. The rest of them are sketchy now. They've been compromised.

Agreed :thumbsup:
 
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