how does a ps3 compare with a pc?

[Lord Banshee]

Personally i think the super computer part came from that one the cell processor. The cell is basically 1 CPU and 8 SPU (simple processor units) which can be considered as small DSPs. Most super computers today have CPUs and FPGAs designed to do single tasks very fast (you can consider as also DSPs).

But one PS3 is far from a Super computer. A home computer with say 2 ATI X1900XT or 8800's would be a lot better as a super computer as we can get 4-8 CPUS and use the second graphics card as DSP logic using the the techniques that nvidia has called Cuda and that AMD/ATi has called steam computing.

But some new super computer are using the Cell and Opterons together on paper seem very very good.

 

[Fox5]

Originally posted by: aceofskies05
i played resitence fall of man and the graphics were running through a composite cable , and the shadows, lighting, and rendering looked alot like pc, but just curious how would a ps3 compare with a pc?

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CPU cannot be directly compared at all, due to being a completely different architecture as well as being multicore.

The primary cpu core appears to be roughly equivalent to a 2.5ghz P4 or 1.6ghz athlon 64, and the remaining cores will be either insanely fast or insanely slow, depending on what is running on them. Probably roughly on par with a triple to quad core athlon 64 2600+ or something, more cores at the expense of lower performance per core. (actually it performs about the same a 1.6ghz g5 on unoptimized code, but a g5 is a bit slower per mhz than an athlon 64, so we'll randomly pick a 1.6ghz athlon 64 after the appropriate minor optimizations are in place)

The GPU I believe is very close to a 7600GT or 7900GS (I think those cards are close in performance, but assume close to the 7900gs if they're not). The PS3 processor should be good for additionally graphics processing though (vertex processing and physics calculations) so it may perform closer to a sli setup, minus the higher resolution and AA a sli setup would bring.
256MB of system ram, 256MB of graphics ram, and a slow 60GB harddrive.

PS3 can run linux as well, but overall it performs like a midrange pc and is priced like an upper low end pc. Oh, it also has some severe things cut back, that's a pitiful amount of ram and a small harddrive for a PC, especially considering the PS3 OS takes up nearly 100MB of memory supposendly.

 

[postmortemIA]

If I recall, GeForce 7 series and PS3 GPU were designed at same time and share some if not many common things.

 

[TheRyuu]

Originally posted by: postmortemIA
If I recall, GeForce 7 series and PS3 GPU were designed at same time and share some if not many common things.

So they'll both shimmer like hell?

 

[tuteja1986]

Originally posted by: aceofskies05
i played resitence fall of man and the graphics were running through a composite cable , and the shadows, lighting, and rendering looked alot like pc, but just curious how would a ps3 compare with a pc?

ex.
amd XXXXX
gpuXXXX
ect..

dude you were playing in standard def ;( get the HDMI cable now so you can play the game in 720p. composite has crappy color quality.

Anyways as for PS3 compared to PC is stupid as PS3 don't a system hogging OS like PC do. Like do you think a PC running windows 98se with P3 700Mhz , 64MB of ram and Geforce 3 can play Doom 3, burnout 3 takedown , Half life 2 , Ninja Gaiden... ect as the same quality as an XBOX.

 

[Fenixgoon]

Originally posted by: tuteja1986

Originally posted by: aceofskies05
i played resitence fall of man and the graphics were running through a composite cable , and the shadows, lighting, and rendering looked alot like pc, but just curious how would a ps3 compare with a pc?

ex.
amd XXXXX
gpuXXXX
ect..

dude you were playing in standard def ;( get the HDMI cable now so you can play the game in 720p. composite has crappy color quality.

Anyways as for PS3 compared to PC is stupid as PS3 don't a system hogging OS like PC do. Like do you think a PC running windows 98se with P3 700Mhz , 64MB of ram and Geforce 3 can play Doom 3, burnout 3 takedown , Half life 2 , Ninja Gaiden... ect as the same quality as an XBOX.

optimization++ FTW.. that's the whole advantage of a console - because every system is the same, you can tweak the software like hell.

 

[Fox5]

Originally posted by: tuteja1986

Originally posted by: aceofskies05
i played resitence fall of man and the graphics were running through a composite cable , and the shadows, lighting, and rendering looked alot like pc, but just curious how would a ps3 compare with a pc?

ex.
amd XXXXX
gpuXXXX
ect..

dude you were playing in standard def ;( get the HDMI cable now so you can play the game in 720p. composite has crappy color quality.

Anyways as for PS3 compared to PC is stupid as PS3 don't a system hogging OS like PC do. Like do you think a PC running windows 98se with P3 700Mhz , 64MB of ram and Geforce 3 can play Doom 3, burnout 3 takedown , Half life 2 , Ninja Gaiden... ect as the same quality as an XBOX.

No, but I'd bet a pc with 256MB of ram, a P3 700mhz, and a geforce4 could. (geforce 4 is closer hardware wise to the gpu in an xbox)

BTW, PS3, Xbox 360, and Wii all have full fledged OS's now. The Wii's appears to be a BeOS variant, PS3 is Linux, and 360 is Windows based again. I believe the xbox 1's OS took about 10MB of ram, and the PS3's is around 96MB I think, with the 360's falling somewhere in between.
An OS does do more than just waste resources.

optimization++ FTW.. that's the whole advantage of a console - because every system is the same, you can tweak the software like hell.

That only works for key titles, 98% of all games nowadays are cross platform. PS3's Cell and Xbox 360's edram just aren't going to be utilized all that much, most games are going to treat them like low end PC cpus with midrange graphics cards (which will steadily progress towards low end) with an anemic amount of ram. Multiplatform is the name of the game now.

 

[Kromis]

Originally posted by: secretanchitman

Originally posted by: BladeVenom
If you want to know how "good" those console processors are, read the Anandtech article that got censored. Read This

wow i wonder why that got censored...

Yes...why *did* it get censored?

 

[CVSiN]

Originally posted by: secretanchitman

Originally posted by: VIAN
7900+ series power. But not more than 8800 series.

:thumbsup:

um no... its a 6800 class chip thats been modified... not even close to the 7x series.

this chip is over a year and a half old it was announced before the first release date Sony missed..

its the same class of graphics chip thats in the 360. same amount of power as refereced by every single tech reviewer out there.

 

[skace]

The difference between PS3 and PC is that the PC actually has a library of decent games to play.

 

[Inspector Jihad]

I've been a computer gamer for a while but i'm gonna get a ps3. It actually cheaper than building a new rig. Thats my case anyway...I cant wait to play MGS4, RE5, god of war 3, lair, etc...

 

[Smilin]

Originally posted by: tuteja1986

Originally posted by: aceofskies05
i played resitence fall of man and the graphics were running through a composite cable , and the shadows, lighting, and rendering looked alot like pc, but just curious how would a ps3 compare with a pc?

ex.
amd XXXXX
gpuXXXX
ect..

dude you were playing in standard def ;( get the HDMI cable now so you can play the game in 720p. composite has crappy color quality.

Anyways as for PS3 compared to PC is stupid as PS3 don't a system hogging OS like PC do. Like do you think a PC running windows 98se with P3 700Mhz , 64MB of ram and Geforce 3 can play Doom 3, burnout 3 takedown , Half life 2 , Ninja Gaiden... ect as the same quality as an XBOX.

For gaming, yes it's a very fair comparison. Right now a top end PC smokes the PS3. It's just a matter of how much you are willing to pay. PC has more games, more graphics horsepower (720p ... that's so cuuuute!!! ... for 1998 ), better network play, etc etc. The shortcomings of general purpose computing are more than offset by the increased power. Again, PC smokes the PS3...it's just a matter of what you can afford.

 

[Thraxen]

So, what, is this topic going to be debated every week till the end of time? When will people figure out that the PC and console platforms offer different gaming experiences? It's not all about graphics.

 

[rahzel]

Originally posted by: CVSiN

Originally posted by: secretanchitman

Originally posted by: VIAN
7900+ series power. But not more than 8800 series.

:thumbsup:

um no... its a 6800 class chip thats been modified... not even close to the 7x series.

this chip is over a year and a half old it was announced before the first release date Sony missed..

its the same class of graphics chip thats in the 360. same amount of power as refereced by every single tech reviewer out there.

hate to dig up an old thread, but you are wrong. the RSX is based on G71. compared to a 7900 GT, it has faster core/mem speeds, only 128-bit but has access to the XDR memory which is used for cell (but not as efficiently as its own). RSX can also offload some things to Cell making it overall better than a 7900 GT imo. also, devs can get more out of consoles than they can with PC's, because consoles are gaming first machines.

with that said, the G80 still owns it and probably any high-end ATI and/or Nvidia in SLi/Crossfire would probably too.