How does a FX-6300+RHD7750gpu compare to the high end A10K?

[frozentundra123456]

That setup would be quite a bit better than an A10-5800K for both gaming and general computing.

The A10 is really only good for 720p gaming. It just doesn't have the memory bandwidth or GPU grunt to do much more.

On your builds - do you live near a microcenter? If so, you can get an FX-8320 + motherboard for ~$195.

Everything I've read on the Vishera FX processors has been good, they're very competitive within their price point. i.e., the FX-6300 usually comes out ahead vs the Core i3's that its price point has it competing against. A core i5 as some suggest has a price point that puts it in competition with the FX-8320 and FX-8350.

I would suggest getting a Radeon 7770 vs the 7750. The 7770 can be had in single slot designs, and proves to be quite a bit faster than a 7750. In fact, I'd say the 7770 is really in the 'sweet spot' for a competent, if not high-end, gaming build.

ie :

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/HD_7770/8.html

I just got a HD7770, and for the price and power usage, I must say I am very happy with it.
As I said, the only reason I see to get the HD7750 is if you have an off the shelf system with a weak power supply that has no 6 pin connector. Otherwise the 7770 is considerably faster and not that much more expensive.

Edit: Since you mentioned Microcenter, if the OP lives near one, you can get absolutely killer deals on an i5 3570k and mb, which definitely would be my choice for gaming, but the OP apparently is unwilling to consider intel.

 

[sm625]

The other question is why you are limiting yourself to a HD7750...

lol I'm sure it has something to do with money. The 7750 is the cheapest 28nm gpu that is a good value. Personally, I followed your reasoning and bought the 7770 because it is a better value. But I can tell you one thing: If there was a 28nm HD7670 that costed $65-$70, that is what I would have gotten. And I'm sure I'm not the only one. I am not enjoying this gaping hole in the discrete market. Integrated is crap. I do not appreciate being more or less forced to buy a $100 card if I want the latest gen.

 

[Insert_Nickname]

Motherboard(I live in the tropics, I "need" durability)
ASUS SABERTOOTH 990FX R2.0 AM3+ AMD 990FX SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard with UEFI BIOS
$180 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...%20motherboard

CPU
AMD FX-6300 Vishera 3.5GHz (4.1GHz Turbo) Socket AM3+ 95W Six-Core Desktop Processor
$140 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819113286

Seems like a very odd pairing to me. You'd be better of with the regular M5A990FX Pro R2.0, M5A99X EVO R2.0 or even an M5A97 EVO R2.0. I'm not saying the Sabertooth is a bad board, just EXTREMLY expensive to pair with anything less then a 8350.

Since you mention living in the tropics, you'd properly be better of with a Core ix. Less heat to manage...

PSU(Aiming around for 50%~60% consumption)
CORSAIR AX760 760W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS PLATINUM Certified Full Modular Active PFC Power Supply
$180 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139042

Whoa. That's a server grade PSU. Are you really sure you need that?. Otherwise I would suggest looking at one of Corsairs lower-end ones. They'll perform excellent, and be a fair bit cheaper. Just make sure you get one of the 55C rated models.

SSD(Optional)
OCZ Vector Series VTR1-25SAT3-256G 2.5" 256GB SATA III MLC
$240 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820227916

An SSD should not be "optional" at this price point. Period. And stay well clear of OCZ. Get a Samsung or Intel instead.

Optical Drive
LG Black 14X BD-R 2X BD-RE 16X DVD+R 5X DVD-RAM 12X BD-ROM 4MB Cache SATA BDXL Blu-Ray Burner with SW, 3D Play Back - BH14NS40
$90 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827136249

Are you 100% sure you need a blu-ray BURNER?. If you just watch movies on it, its a very expensive piece of kit to have in your PC and a regular BD-ROM drive will do the job just as well.

my 2c...

 

[frozentundra123456]

lol I'm sure it has something to do with money. The 7750 is the cheapest 28nm gpu that is a good value. Personally, I followed your reasoning and bought the 7770 because it is a better value. But I can tell you one thing: If there was a 28nm HD7670 that costed $65-$70, that is what I would have gotten. And I'm sure I'm not the only one. I am not enjoying this gaping hole in the discrete market. Integrated is crap. I do not appreciate being more or less forced to buy a $100 card if I want the latest gen.

Yes, but the whole build just seems unbalanced. He is planning a 180.00 mb and a 180.00 power supply, but buying a 7750 to save money??

 

[sm625]

Yeah that does seem kind of odd. I know I like to have a psu I can trust, but for $180 I'd rather get two for $80 and have one for backup.

 

[MightyMalus]

So many comments, damn. Thanks. Let's see...

Alright, the PSU. Its the most efficient I could find at the % of consumption that I want to "meet". Hopefully, getting a good high quality PSU will "help" in not needing one for a very very long time/future builds.

The motherboard, same reasoning as the PSU. Quality and a 5 year guarantee.

RAM, just went with a quick pick and being mostly AMD, meh...any good ones with AMD memory "profile" support?

CPU, a dual core won't be much of an upgrade even tho I use an old 2c laptop, sure it will be faster but not as much of an improvement compared to a 6c.

GPU, I might even go for a lesser card. I'm more interested in the features of the GPU(GCN2) than its performance, but if the money is better later, a performance GCN2 GPU might be an option. Its a stepping stone till then.

SSD, that OCZ Vector was reviewed in Maximum PC and it totally killed the competition(Sam and Intel) at around the $240-$290(or so) price point, in most tests.

HDD, Its used in most MaximumPC builds, seems good. Maybe too much space for me but if it lasts, I don't think I'll need to change it in the future.

OD, I guess burning large amounts of data on a disk seems like something I might use down the line. Runs everything, has that unique data burning feature for DVD's, has high speeds. Thought it would be worth the price.

My mindset in most of the parts are more towards long lasting and reusable if another build comes up in the far future(5 years).

I did wonder if the motherboard is actually worth it. But I seriously don't think I should get a lower quality PSU tho. And one more thing...the electricity here cost $0.25 per kWh and its about to raise again -.-''

I been reading the comments, something came up so I will probably push this build another month or two than I had planned. But I'd like to learn more, considering my goals.

 

[Insert_Nickname]

So many comments, damn. Thanks. Let's see...

Alright, the PSU. Its the most efficient I could find at the % of consumption that I want to "meet". Hopefully, getting a good high quality PSU will "help" in not needing one for a very very long time/future builds.

OK was just making sure, was actually considering getting one myself.

The motherboard, same reasoning as the PSU. Quality and a 5 year guarantee.

Define guarantee. For longevity a lower end board can last just as long. Or you can be unlucky and that sabertooth can pack up after two months...

CPU, a dual core won't be much of an upgrade even tho I use an old 2c laptop, sure it will be faster but not as much of an improvement compared to a 6c.

Why not get a 8350?. Its only a bit more expensive...

I still maintain you'd be better served by an Intel quadcore...

GPU, I might even go for a lesser card. I'm more interested in the features of the GPU(GCN2) than its performance, but if the money is better later, a performance GCN2 GPU might be an option. Its a stepping stone till then.

What features would that be?. For video decoding, DX11 and compute, even a Geforce G610 will do. Hell, the G610 is apparently able to decode 4K video.

SSD, that OCZ Vector was reviewed in Maximum PC and it totally killed the competition(Sam and Intel) at around the $240-$290(or so) price point, in most tests.

Its not the PERFORMANCE but the RELIABILITY that's the problem. Ask around here. OCZ does not exactly have a good record... (understatement of the month... )

OD, I guess burning large amounts of data on a disk seems like something I might use down the line. Runs everything, has that unique data burning feature for DVD's, has high speeds. Thought it would be worth the price.

If you're really sure you need it, I would advice getting the Pioneer BDR-207 as it can read/write BDXL.

I did wonder if the motherboard is actually worth it. But I seriously don't think I should get a lower quality PSU tho. And one more thing...the electricity here cost $0.25 per kWh and its about to raise again -.-''

You lucky devil... :biggrin:

Electricity cost $0.40 to $0.50 here...

 

[MightyMalus]

Define guarantee. For longevity a lower end board can last just as long. Or you can be unlucky and that sabertooth can pack up after two months...

The sabertooth has a 5 year guarantee, it seems. No good? http://www.asus.com/Motherboard/SABERTOOTH_990FX/ I don't plan to OC at all.

Why not get a 8350?. Its only a bit more expensive... I still maintain you'd be better served by an Intel quadcore...

Power Consumption and who knows what the next SR will bring.
If I went Intel, It would have to be a Haswell, being a new socket and all. When are the chips supposed to be out? If you know?

What features would that be?. For video decoding, DX11 and compute, even a Geforce G610 will do. Hell, the G610 is apparently able to decode 4K video.

HSA.

Its not the PERFORMANCE but the RELIABILITY that's the problem. Ask around here. OCZ does not exactly have a good record... (understatement of the month... )

Hmm...are SSD failure rates that common? I have no clue about SSD's.

If you're really sure you need it, I would advice getting the Pioneer BDR-207 as it can read/write BDXL.

I'll check it out. If features are the same or better than its a contender.

You lucky devil... Electricity cost $0.40 to $0.50 here...

Damn, hopefully the mean annual salary there is well above $27,190....compared to the states, we earn much less but pay twice or more for electricity in comparison.

 

[Torn Mind]

Most likely, the capacitors are the parts in a motherboard that fail before anything else on it fails. Learn how to solder in quality capacitors, and any mobo can have an extended lifetime before the elements take it down.

Electricity is about 13 cents total here in the DC area. But it is an expensive area to live in.

 

[tweakboy]

Simple question, yet not sure what to expect.

I want to build a PC in awhile and I'm looking for something "good enough" but upgradable.

Considering that there is no FM2+(Bolton D4 Motherboards out yet), and building an APU system in the hopes of Kaveri, seems unlikely atm. I was wondering if an AM3+ system would fair better. Even tho, it ends up slightly more expensive. But, at least I can upgrade the GPU more often or be more up-to-date with them. For example, the "big core" APU's don't even use GCN yet, and we about to get the next GCN. That does bother me.

So, how does a FX-6300 with a HD7750 compare for gaming to an A10-5800K?
Anyone got something like that around?

That is a excellent setup my friend. With that budget mobo and budget ati card youll be set. The AMD is slow as a turtle so if you want games to be fast for now and years to come, grab a real procesor like a FX-8350 pr a Ivy Bridge. thx gl

 

[Insert_Nickname]

The sabertooth has a 5 year guarantee, it seems. No good? http://www.asus.com/Motherboard/SABERTOOTH_990FX/ I don't plan to OC at all.

Its a good board, no question. But still seems a bit overkill...

Power Consumption and who knows what the next SR will bring.
If I went Intel, It would have to be a Haswell, being a new socket and all. When are the chips supposed to be out? If you know?

Rumour mill puts Haswell sometime around May. As for Steamroller you have no guarantee that it will be AM3+. In fact I personally think it more likely that it will be FM2+/FM3.

HSA.

Then why not buy an el cheapo G610/G620 to hold you over until software can actually make use of it?. Your GFX card is properly the easiest component to change.

Hmm...are SSD failure rates that common? I have no clue about SSD's.

I humbly suggest reading though some of Anand's tests and reviews.

I'll check it out. If features are the same or better than its a contender.

Well, Pioneer has always been my go to brand for optical drives. Never had any problems with them. Though I admit my current drive does not exactly see a lot of use...

Damn, hopefully the mean annual salary there is well above $27,190....compared to the states, we earn much less but pay twice or more for electricity in comparison.

It is. But our living expenses are properly a fair bit higher... (cue every Dane on the net beating down on me... I'll humbly suggest eb.dk for that discussion... )

 

[MightyMalus]

Its a good board, no question. But still seems a bit overkill...

When you say "overkill" do you mean, expensive? Or its quality? Can you give more details? What's a good motherboard?

Rumour mill puts Haswell sometime around May. As for Steamroller you have no guarantee that it will be AM3+. In fact I personally think it more likely that it will be FM2+/FM3.

I think AM3+ will get SR, late tho.
Richland in March and Haswell in May. A build now would surely be wrong for me.
I will wait for more info. Learn more until then, and find a damn case -.-''

Then why not buy an el cheapo G610/G620 to hold you over until software can actually make use of it?. Your GFX card is properly the easiest component to change.

That's a SVB, If I'm/Google is not wrong. Would mean no socket 1150, no progress on the same board.

I humbly suggest reading though some of Anand's tests and reviews.

Sure will!

Well, Pioneer has always been my go to brand for optical drives. Never had any problems with them. Though I admit my current drive does not exactly see a lot of use...

Jaja, I'll check.

Thank you all for the help, I'll wait and see for a bit. Then open another thread concerning the actual build!

Question: G.Skill Ram as good as they seem!?

(Any tips will still be appreciated!)

 

[Insert_Nickname]

That's a SVB, If I'm/Google is not wrong. Would mean no socket 1150, no progress on the same board.

No, no... that's a Geforce G610/20 add-in PCIe GFX expansion card. Has nothing to do with Sandy/Ivy Bridge Pentiums/Celerons... :biggrin:

Like this one:

http://www.asus.com/Graphics_Cards/GT610SL1GD3L/

or this:

http://www.asus.com/Graphics_Cards/GT6201GD3LV2/

Should be extremely inexpensive, they are here. Just be aware they are NOT suitable for ANY kind of gaming. Except flashgames...

 

[MightyMalus]

Total Fail! Jajajaja I was wondering why you mentioned an Intel CPU on a GPU comment lol Thought it had an iGPU, didn't check.

I'm still not sure what to do, I'll preplan everything up, I'll look for info. Checking RAM stuff info soon. If FM2+/FM3 boards come soon, I might end up with an APU tho.