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grrl

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. As people continue to learn the qualities of Lite-on, probably equal to Plextor/Yamaha, for alot cheaper,
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Funniest thing I've read all day
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Why is that?
Lite-on does make quality products.
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I concur...what is so funny?


Since no one has commented on this yet, SgtZulu was trying to point out the grammatical mistakes.

jpbushido99, after you're done with that enlightening class on the way the world really is, take one in remedial spelling. Or run spell check.
 

jpbushido99

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guys I am sorry I just got back from a frat training so I am a little messed up, if I failed your english courses then too bad, bud I am sure the message is straight, if not then re-read and re-read, I am sure the spelling mistakes will just fade out eventually.
 

jpbushido99

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by the way don't mean to piss off all those who have perfect gramatical skills and are perfect in every way

 

paralazarguer

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I am in college and I think that every person that has biased ideals should take my socialogy course, it will enlighten you to that fact that your racism, is bitting into the fact that the american capitalist society has created cast ethnicities so that the powers that be, and the upper echelon can still justify keeping money in the family, and keeping everyone out. Its unfortunate that their are still stupid enough people out there to think that there are seperate races of humans out there. Just think when you are saying racist stuff, are they being exploited, or are you????? Guess what the answer aint as easy as you think. Read a book, get some knowledge in your head, and contribute to the well being of humanity, what good is living if you can't live it happily

Your naive college-boy rant would be easier to take seriously if you demonstrated a working knowledge of fourth grade grammar. There is a difference between "their," "there," and "they're" you know.

Anyway, speaking biologically, you're right my naive friend, there is only one human race. There are different CULTURES in the world though. These cultures raise people with their ideals. Some are hateful and bigotrous. Others are different. To someone in culture A, culture B might provide some reason for "racism." I prefer to call it Culturalism since it's not against a colour of skin but a system of beliefs.

It's Americans disliking Communists.

It's most people disliking most muslim nations and their percieved abuse of women and horrible, horrible corporal laws and beliefs.

I've met several people from Muslin nations. I hated them all not because of their accent or colour of skin or whatever but because of their beliefs. Their belief system was incompatible with what's cocher and even legal in the states and Canada and that's why I don't like them. They believe the stuff too.

It's no different than hating Nazis.

If I hate Nazis, does that make me a racist?

I have no problem with any race that's raised in this country and has similar beliefs to me. That is to say, they can believe whatever religion they want but, man, some of that other stuff is too much. I don't care about the colour of their skin or where they're from. If they don't have those beliefs which I look down on (disagree with,) they're just another person.

P.S. I never said anything about the original comment that some people are regarding as racist. In fact, I think it was pretty funny. It's playing on a stereotype. A somewhat accurate one at that. Guess what, Mexicans live in a third world nation and work for less than Americans. That's reality. If they're lucky enough to immigrate to the States, they usually have to take low paying jobs unless they have exceptional skills. Language barriers and green cards are some of the reasons for this.
There was nothing wrong with his comment. So, I hope that Mr. College over here isn't directing any of his righteous preaching my way.
 

jpbushido99

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I mean why are people so hostile towards a good message, do you like being hatefull and ignorant, I meant what is so virtuous about hating people. I just don't understand.
 

Originally posted by: jpbushido99
I mean why are people so hostile towards a good message, do you like being hatefull and ignorant, I meant what is so virtuous about hating people. I just don't understand.

:confused:
 

jpbushido99

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Your naive college-boy rant would be easier to take seriously if you demonstrated a working knowledge of fourth grade grammar. There is a different between "their," "there," and "they're" you know.

Anyway, speaking biologically, you're right my naive friend, there is only one human race. There are differe CULTURES in the world though. These cultures raise people to their ideals. Some are hateful and bigotrous. Others are different. To someone in culture A, culture B might provide some reason for "racism."[/quote]


Like I said I am not all there right now, if you would like to quize me later then maybe we can arrange something, also no need to call me naive, because good things can happen when good people want them too. I am one of those people who do believe in good things regardless of how many people who care more about spelling mistakes than the message thats presented. I just want to say something that everyone can understand. RACISM IS WRONG IT IS STUPID, HATE IS WRONG, and what ever way that you want to describe it, it all says the same thing. Now if you attack me about just stopping the hate then go ahead but my message is clear enough, and no amount of spelling mistakes, or naive comments is going to change that.
 

grrl

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Quote: if I failed your english courses then too bad, bud I am sure the message is straight

I think by the time you get to college your grammar should be near perfect. Ignorance or laziness is NO excuse for poor language skills, especially when you try to pontificate to a forum of people who in all likelihood have a much greater understanding of the world than you. Even with your Sociology 101 text in hand.

Maybe you should take my English class, you'd likely learn something. I forgive some of your errors when my students make them, but only because English is their SECOND language. What's your excuse?
 

jpbushido99

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Originally posted by: grrl
Quote: if I failed your english courses then too bad, bud I am sure the message is straight

I think by the time you get to college your grammar should be near perfect. Ignorance or laziness is NO excuse for poor language skills, especially when you try to pontificate to a forum of people who in all likelihood have a much greater understanding of the world than you. Even with your Sociology 101 text in hand.

Maybe you should take my English class, you'd likely learn something. I forgive some of your errors when my students make them, but only because English is their SECOND language. What's your excuse?

Wow, in my frat we have people like you, people who have required the requisite skills to judge others, i.e. language or mathematical and by those skills alone feel that they have the right to exploit their talents; well fine, dude I am not going deal or your issues with language (I am sure you have many more, but I won't get into that), I am not a negative person, I don't make fun of, judge or try to arbitrate others based on little snippets of conversations. However you did say that "Ignorance or laziness is NO excuse for poor language skills, especially when you try to pontificate to a forum of people who in all likelihood have a much greater understanding of the world than you,? I am not sure if you mean that these people are older than me or have more real world experiences. Well since you are a teacher, or something similar, I am sure you know that age does not breed wisdom, if so why would you be arguing with me in a forum that deals with comments about products that we all use, and I am sure cater to those of a much younger time then yourself. With this I ask you, do you passionately correct all those who you feel have made grammatical mistakes, our has your wisdom given you the right to asses my language skills, dependent on the topic of course (it must bother you somewhat, otherwise you wouldn't be having this conversation with me now), or am I just special, and in need of all of your abundant and copious language expertise. You don't have to answer any of these questions, I was just wondering?
 

chizow

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Originally posted by: grrl
Maybe you should take my English class, you'd likely learn something. I forgive some of your errors when my students make them, but only because English is their SECOND language. What's your excuse?

This thread seems to have a very "international" flair to it, maybe English is his second language :eek: :confused:

Anyways, mods should just lock this thread down. Its more OT than On-Topic, and is just getting dumber (is that correct grammar??? :p) by the post.

Chiz
 

paralazarguer

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I don't know what country you're in but here we learn the important parts of communication early in High School. You'll find that the way you present your message is as important as the message itself. Your grammatical prowess, or lack thereof, detracts from your credibility as a scholar.
If you don't value your opinion enough to express it clearly, it's not worth my time or consideration.
 

paralazarguer

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Wow, in my frat we have people like you

You have English Teachers in your Frat? That's weird.

...language or mathematical and by those skills alone feel that they have the right to exploit their talents; well fine, dude I am not going deal or your issues with language (I am sure you have many more, but I won't get into that)

Actually, we're just demonstrating one of the most prominent blocks to good communication. Maybe they'll cover that next semester for you. If you would like others to take your opinion seriously, express it clearly in a medium that you have mastered. Don't present yourself as a College Sudent and reference your course and then immediately discredit yourself with Grade 3 level grammar.

You don't have to answer any of these questions, I was just wondering?

Question marks are used at the end of questions. :p Okay, now I'm just playing.
 

jpbushido99

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Go ahead point out the mistakes, your just showing how silly you are, and how you let your American capitalist, elitists mentality affect the purity of the message. And since all these people with real world experiences know so much, please let them tell me simply ?WHY DO YOU HATE.? If there is a legitimate message then I will listen, please send me a timeline of these accounts, since in order to reach this conclusion all of history from Captain Cook to today?s time and age should be included for me to fully understand the legitimacy of issues at hand. If not send me the reason why you hate your mother or your verbally or physically abusive father and/or insecurities, that make you project your hatred on to others to legitimize your own personal problems. Thanks.
 

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Originally posted by: joe4324
ECS is the THE #1 Mobo manufacturer in the world. I've heard speculation that the K7S5A has sold several times more then ANY other motherboard of all time. I'm talking MILLIONS and MILLIONS of units shipped. (I've personally purchased and sold over 20 of them in the last 2 years) Thats not bad. On forums like this products like the K7S5A get more a bad rap because there are more power users here who view them as under-powered and are angry because they cant OC as well. But the fact of the matter is there are millions of happy K7S5A users around the world. More then any other motherboard has ever produced.

See that big key that's roughly two thirds to the right of the keyboard?
It looks kinda like a 180 degrees rotated "L" and is usually called "Return".

Try it out, you'll love it.
 

paralazarguer

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your just showing how silly you are, and how you let your American capitalist, elitists mentality affect the purity of the message

I'm not even sure where to begin with this one. "American capitalist, elitists mentality," eh? That's weird, all this time I thought I was a Canadian. The purity of my message? By that I can only assume that you mean that my opinion differs from yours and is therefore not pure. Yes, we are all products of our cultures. So are you. Right now that influence is your sociology class and a whole lot of youthful naivite.

And since all these people with real world experiences know so much, please let them tell me simply ?WHY DO YOU HATE.? If there is a legitimate message then I will listen, please send me a timeline of these accounts, since in order to reach this conclusion all of history from Captain Cook to today?s time and age should be included for me to fully understand the legitimacy of issues at hand.

I think you're the only one who inferred that people might have less simplistic views because of life experience. The world is shades of grey my friend. There is no black and white. I believe I've already articulated my views on the topic.
What makes a message legitimate to you anyway? One that's the same as yours?

If not send me the reason why you hate your mother or your verbally or physically abusive father and/or insecurities, that make you project your hatred on to others to legitimize your own personal problems. Thanks.

I don't hate because of my father or mother. You do bring some legitimacy to my point that we are all products of our environemts, upbringing; cultures. Please re-read my post about culturalism to see how this applies to racism.
 

paralazarguer

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Read a book, get some knowledge in your head,

I hope you realize the irony here. You deserve absolutely everything you've gotten. You make a statement like this in your first post and then when we challenge YOUR knowledge there's something wrong with that. Right...
So, because people have different opinions than you they need to read a book to get some knowledge in their heads? They must be so ignorant.
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paralazarguer

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Read a book, get some knowledge in your head, and contribute to the well being of humanity
You mean like this one?
Just because something is written down as fact doesn't make it so. It's written by a human being who is influenced by his upbringing and his cultural ideals. You textbook was written by one such person.
Your prof. is one such person.
 

grrl

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I don't know what country you're in but here we learn the important parts of communication early in High School. You'll find that the way you present your message is as important as the message itself. Your grammatical prowess, or lack thereof, detracts from your credibility as a scholar.

That was pretty much my point.

jpbushido99, you're right, age doesn't always bring wisdom. However, youth merely has the 'advantage' of the strength of shallowly tested convictions; age brings experience and forces you to deal with reality. For example, anyone who claims to not judge is full of sh*t. You can reserve judgement, but you cannot not judge. People assess and react to each other all the time. We do so by nature and culture. When you were rushing your frat, do you REALLY think you weren't being judged by your 'brothers'? That they weren't sizing you up as 'acceptable' or not? Don't delude yourself.

You've lost me on all this stuff about hate (and your last message in particular).

But to try to bring this back on to topic, if Plextors and Yamahas are better than Lite-ons, the question then becomes, are they 3x better?
 

paralazarguer

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But to try to bring this back on to topic, if Plextors and Yamahas are better than Lite-ons, the question then becomes, are they 3x better?

If you have damaged media that you absolutely MUST recover, I'd say YES. If you're an average user, I'd say no. I like LiteON drives a lot.
 

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Originally posted by: oldfart
They lose money on every drive, but make up for it in volume! :)

hows that work? if they're losing money on every single drive, then wouldnt they still be losing money on every single drive regardless of volume?
 

jpbushido99

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Originally posted by: paralazarguer
your just showing how silly you are, and how you let your American capitalist, elitists mentality affect the purity of the message

I'm not even sure where to begin with this one. "American capitalist, elitists mentality," eh? That's weird, all this time I thought I was a Canadian. The purity of my message? By that I can only assume that you mean that my opinion differs from yours and is therefore not pure. Yes, we are all products of our cultures. So are you. Right now that influence is your sociology class and a whole lot of youthful naivite.

And since all these people with real world experiences know so much, please let them tell me simply ?WHY DO YOU HATE.? If there is a legitimate message then I will listen, please send me a timeline of these accounts, since in order to reach this conclusion all of history from Captain Cook to today?s time and age should be included for me to fully understand the legitimacy of issues at hand.

I think you're the only one who inferred that people might have less simplistic views because of life experience. The world is shades of grey my friend. There is no black and white. I believe I've already articulated my views on the topic.

If not send me the reason why you hate your mother or your verbally or physically abusive father and/or insecurities, that make you project your hatred on to others to legitimize your own personal problems. Thanks.

I don't hate because of my father or mother. You do bring some legitimacy to my point that we are all products of our environemts, upbringing cultures. Please re-read my post about culturalism to see how this applies to racism.[/q

Exactly this is what I have wanted you to say, "Please re-read my post about centralism to see how this applies to racism." Not to say that I want to reread your post, but I wanted get back to what was actually being said. We got into this argument because I said a couple of things that may have offended you since you are teacher, ESL I believe. My problem is that people, wonderful people have so many issues about the way you say something rather than what you say. You may argue that what you say is directly correlation with how you say it; but I feel the message is the same regardless. In the beginning I said that I am sorry if I messed up words because I came back from a frat training night. However I was still attacked. My issue was legitimate regardless of how naive it was it was still a message that should be heard. I have enjoyed debating with you about my grammatical skills, but I know we are on the same page about racism, however even though I am a college student, I am exposed to society, if you think I am naive or not (Canadians still believe that Americans are boisterous, and Canadians feel that they are morally superior to Americans regardless that they have never met every American) I still have legitimate opinions, and I deserver to be heard just as you, regardless of how I say it. This is my point and Sir, have a good night.
 

jpbushido99

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Originally posted by: paralazarguer
Read a book, get some knowledge in your head, and contribute to the well being of humanity
You mean like this one?
Just because something is written down as fact doesn't make it so. It's written by a human being who is influenced by his upbringing and his cultural ideals. You textbook was written by one such person.
Your prof. is one such person.

I think you know what I mean if you don't then I am sorry. I know that people grow up in different conditions, hey but truth is stronger than fiction. People can be enlightened. Hitler may have been crazy, he believed in the occult, and his followers were brainwashed almost at birth. His ideas were radical. But Hatred can always be assed as wrong, and all those people who have lived longer than me and know much more cannot say that this wrong, regardless, I don't care; there is nothing that anyone can say.