how does a bus compare in efficiency to a car?

Originally posted by: Shawn
Is that the manufacture's MPG? Because my car is rated 10MPG over what it actually gets.

It's a mixture of both.

This shows the city gas mileage of your typical h1 hummer to be approx 8mpg. The hummer h2 gets around 11mpg.

Edit: what car do you own that gets 10mpg lower than the manu. ratings? Is it that miata? You know that putting a supercharger on it and driving aggressivly will kill your gas mileage. Driving style alone will drastically affect your gas mileage, but I'm sure you knew that.

 

[alent1234]

worst thing about NYC buses is that there is a stop every 2 blocks

a 20 minute car ride is like 60 minutes on the bus

i take the train to work on the weekdays, but on the weekends the wife and I drive every where

 

[Ryuson99]

Originally posted by: alent1234
worst thing about NYC buses is that there is a stop every 2 blocks

a 20 minute car ride is like 60 minutes on the bus

i take the train to work on the weekdays, but on the weekends the wife and I drive every where

I hate the busses here becouse of that two block sh!t

but sometimes you still have to take it to go crosstown which takes the same amount of time as going 200 blocks on the train, mind you I'm only going 4 aves on the bus.


Edit: Also when its going through aves it stops on each one not every two.

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: SampSon

Originally posted by: Shawn
Is that the manufacture's MPG? Because my car is rated 10MPG over what it actually gets.

It's a mixture of both.

This shows the city gas mileage of your typical h1 hummer to be approx 8mpg. The hummer h2 gets around 11mpg.

Edit: what car do you own that gets 10mpg lower than the manu. ratings? Is it that miata? You know that putting a supercharger on it and driving aggressivly will kill your gas mileage. Driving style alone will drastically affect your gas mileage, but I'm sure you knew that.

:Word;

If you don't know enough about cars to realize the effect on mileage the S/C has, what the hell were you doing installing it?

- M4H

 

[hondAS2ooo170]

busus are more eficiant for your money (i have been taking the bus for about 5 years now) when u add up all the bills of a car you own to the daly uses of the buses, its is a lot cheaper.

BTW, buses sux!!!! I Hate stopping at every bus stop.

 

[Ryuson99]

Originally posted by: hondAS2ooo170
busus are more eficiant for your money (i have been taking the bus for about 5 years now) when u add up all the bills of a car you own to the daly uses of the buses, its is a lot cheaper.

BTW, buses sux!!!! I Hate stopping at every bus stop.

I concur.

 

[Zenmervolt]

Originally posted by: SampSon

Originally posted by: Vic
Poorly. The city buses in my area average 4 mpg, using mostly diesel.

Shens. Need some numbers to back that up.
Even fully loaded tractor trailers make 8mpg.

Tractor-trailers make 8mpg on the _HIGHWAY_. The city driving done by buses is much worse on mileage. 4-5 mpg for a city bus is about right.

ZV

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Tractor-trailers make 8mpg on the _HIGHWAY_. The city driving done by buses is much worse on mileage. 4-5 mpg for a city bus is about right.

ZV[/quote]

I'd even be surprised if it gets 4 mpg. Those busses seem to be either speeding up or slowing down, they don't get to cruise much. The diesel does help, though.

 

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: SampSon

Originally posted by: Vic
Poorly. The city buses in my area average 4 mpg, using mostly diesel.

Shens. Need some numbers to back that up.
Even fully loaded tractor trailers make 8mpg.

Tractor-trailers make 8mpg on the _HIGHWAY_. The city driving done by buses is much worse on mileage. 4-5 mpg for a city bus is about right.

ZV

Yea that seems right I guess. Further searching shows it's (bus mpg) that low.

A fully loaded TT Is 140K lbs, much more than your average bus I would guess. TT's get much better mileage than your typical bus. Seems odd, but eh, what the hell do I know

 

[91TTZ]

Neat article:

http://www.andsoforth.com/asf.cgi?Motorism_Facts_And_Figures

 

[alent1234]

Originally posted by: hondAS2ooo170
busus are more eficiant for your money (i have been taking the bus for about 5 years now) when u add up all the bills of a car you own to the daly uses of the buses, its is a lot cheaper.

BTW, buses sux!!!! I Hate stopping at every bus stop.

they are definetly cheaper price wise and in NYC a lot less annoying than fighting traffic and parking

but there is something very nice about commuting in your own personal space, with your choice of music, temperature settings, leather seats etc. There are a lot of people in NYC who pay the premium to drive just for this reason. Other people drop and pick up their kids at daycare before or after work and it's too far out of the way of public transportation.

 

[Zenmervolt]

Originally posted by: SampSon

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: SampSon

Originally posted by: Vic
Poorly. The city buses in my area average 4 mpg, using mostly diesel.

Shens. Need some numbers to back that up.
Even fully loaded tractor trailers make 8mpg.

Tractor-trailers make 8mpg on the _HIGHWAY_. The city driving done by buses is much worse on mileage. 4-5 mpg for a city bus is about right.

ZV

Yea that seems right I guess. Further searching shows it's (bus mpg) that low.

A fully loaded TT Is 140K lbs, much more than your average bus I would guess. TT's get much better mileage than your typical bus. Seems odd, but eh, what the hell do I know

Also, Semi tractors typically have 13-18 speed manual gearboxes, while most buses make do with a 4 or 5 speed automatic. That means a Semi is operating near torque peak (which is to say, operating near the efficiency peak) much more often than a city bus.

ZV

 

Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Neat article:

http://www.andsoforth.com/asf.cgi?Motorism_Facts_And_Figures

So 4mpg is a low figure then.

 

[Shawn]

Originally posted by: SampSon

Originally posted by: Shawn
Is that the manufacture's MPG? Because my car is rated 10MPG over what it actually gets.

It's a mixture of both.

This shows the city gas mileage of your typical h1 hummer to be approx 8mpg. The hummer h2 gets around 11mpg.

Edit: what car do you own that gets 10mpg lower than the manu. ratings? Is it that miata? You know that putting a supercharger on it and driving aggressivly will kill your gas mileage. Driving style alone will drastically affect your gas mileage, but I'm sure you knew that.

I got 21-22mpg before putting on the supercharger.

 

[91TTZ]

At least according to that article. Who knows how accurate it is.

 

[DaiShan]

Busses get around 8mpg according to my bus driver in high school. The busses here are PACKED. Like all seats full, all standing full and you have to wait for the next two. Of course my school has like 50,000 people so... Its free, beats paying for gas heh

 

[mercanucaribe]

The reason busses get low gas mileage is that they are constantly stopping. It takes a huge amount of energy to accelerate a bus. Tractor trailers aren't stopping every 300 feet.

 

[silverpig]

What kind of mileage does that thing get?

1 Highway, 0 City.

 

[thomsbrain]

if the bus has a lot of people on it, it is WAY more efficient than all those cars. even if it gets 5 MPG, it only takes 4-5 people to make up the difference. pack 30 people on one and the cars would need to get like 150 MPG to be more efficient.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: SampSon

Originally posted by: Vic
Poorly. The city buses in my area average 4 mpg, using mostly diesel.

Shens. Need some numbers to back that up.
Even fully loaded tractor trailers make 8mpg.

:roll:

<a target=_blank class=ftalternatingbarlinklarge href="http://www.trimet.org/inside/fleet/bus/index.htm"> TriMet's buses travel over 26 million miles per year. That's like traveling from the Earth to the moon over 100 times. They use:
- 5.9 million gallons of diesel fuel each year
- 217,696 quarts of oil
- 91,104 quarts of transmission fluid, and
- 22,412 quarts of coolant every year</a>

26/5.9 = 4.4

While Tri-Met is one of the most successful regional mass transit services in America, and a valuable and necessary service IMO, the buses are usually only packed at rush hour. Off-peak, it's not uncommon to see empty or near-empty buses.

The question was efficiency, and efficiency MUST always include cost. Like a hybrid gas/electric powered car for example. Most get such good gas mileage because they are already super-economy cars to begin with. Imagine the straight gas powered car gets 40 mpg and the hybrid gets 50 mpg -- completely reasonable numbers comparing an Echo to a Prius or a Civic to an Insight. Sounds good on paper but then you realize the hybrid costs nearly twice as much, with an ROI in excess of a decade of ownership, and you realize it's not very efficient after all, now is it?