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How do you troubleshoot wireless LAN problems??

MDesigner

Platinum Member
Let's say I have a machine with a wireless adapter, and then in another room, a wireless router. The connection between the two is VERY spotty, constant drop-outs. How do you troubleshoot this kind of thing? How do you determine if the problem is with the router, or with the adapter? It might be easy to say, "are other wireless computers getting kicked off?" But there are only two computers involved here, one is wired and one is wireless.

I need to learn how to troubleshoot these kinds of problems, but I'm not really sure where to start. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
 
There are a few probloms that can be causing frequent drop outs.

1. Diffraction/Refraction or scattering may be occuring. Diffraction is when the signal bends around and Refraction is when it bends though this will weaken the signal significantly. This will create a shadow of wireless conectivity that would cause frequent drop outs of the connection and very slow speeds. Scattering could happen but its unlikely in a household. I reccomend purchasing a WIFI compliant bi-directional amplifier and setting it in the middle of the machine and the AP.

2. Free Space Path Loss - Natural broadening of a signal of length, could be too long of a run, amp will work for this.

3. Dwell time could be exeeding 400 MS

You said other room, between walls is not healthy for a omnidirectional antenna, you want a good line of sight from the AP and the adaper on the machine in order for it to function right. Think of a antenna like an eye ball, you can see through some material but you cant others, you cant see through a dense wall and niether can an omni (not very well). Only highly directional antenn'a can beem though a wall.

Wireless is superb for buisness because in the office or class room, the line of sight for the AP's are very good, the AP has 3 modes, Root, Bridge and Repeater. Root is used for when the AP connects to a wired backbone, bridge and repeater is common sense. But wireless is never used byitself unless you have 2 machines that dont connect to the net. WEP security stops at the wired router, meaning in a big buisness your connection is just as secure as all wired with the exeption of people who war drive.


 
Originally posted by: acemcmac
wireless sucks... period. Problem is compounded when stupid users, old machines/os'es or or usb nics are involved.

Wireless is 10 times cheaper for SOHO then ethernet is, its not as fast as ethernet but it will be. Its not as secure yet but with the right use or WEP it can be. Cant wait for 802.11N.

 
Thanks for the responses.

Here's the setup. Upstairs: computer w/ cable modem & wireless router. This machine is wired directly. Downstairs: computer with 802.11b adapter. Now, when I was living there (upstairs, in the same room as other computer), the person downstairs had no issues. Once I moved out, their wireless got all spotty. So this seems like what Shenkoa was talking about with diffraction/refraction. Maybe the signal was bouncing off my machine/desk somehow and giving a better signal to my cousin downstairs. Now that I moved that stuff out, he's having problems, even though my machine was wired and had nothing to do with the computer downstairs.

So.. how do they resolve this issue? It sounds like I need some kind of a wireless repeater/amplifier. Where do I get one, and how much are they? If it's too pricey, they may just drill a hole in the corner of the room and wire the machine downstairs.

I don't think walls are an issue, honestly. I've had wireless before, going through 1-2 walls, and it's never been a problem. Going through the floor might be a different issue though.
 
http://www.google.com/search?h...amp;q=802.11B+Repeater

Some good links. If you have another AP, you could put in in repeater mode.

An AP in bridge mode will work or a seperate 802.11 B repeater or at least should, if not then I think then, well I cant guess but I will say a couple more common probloms that takes some experients in order to trouble shoot.

1. The radiated power at the EIRP may exeed the limits for the ISM 2.4 GHz Band.

2. Your AP is screwed lol

The odds that its one of the probloms I listed. Not much more can go wrong.

Here it is, AP running on the 2.4 GHz ISM Band 802.11 B running DSSS transmits the radiated power at 22 watts with so so of gain in DB, diffraction or refraction causes the frequency hops to have a ubber load of lantency again past the 400 MS dwell time results in exactly what is happening to you or could result in a loss of over -3 DB.

Just try a repeater, it should fix it. Wireless is very strange, you can make a slight change to the envirement and everything goes nuts.
 
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