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iamme

Lifer
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Originally posted by: dderidex

So, which FBI office do I call? Local one, or Portland?

Man, this is messed up - I didn't want to have anything to do with this! Have to provide name and phone number and all that....goddamn, I'm just minding my own business and this drops out of nowhere....

remember you're helping put this guy where he belongs, and preventing him to take advantage of other youths in the future :thumbsup:
 

Viper GTS

Lifer
Oct 13, 1999
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Originally posted by: Reck
Are you sure it's not a sting operation? It could be a setup.

Even more reason to report it.

CYA

[EDIT]And I seriously doubt they would make child porn available just to run a sting.[/EDIT]

Viper GTS
 

dderidex

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Mar 13, 2001
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Originally posted by: Pepsi90919
why do you keep putting HER and SHE in freaking quotes?

Because I don't know for sure this IS a guy. Hell, for all I know, the person in question really IS a girl from the UK and visitting 'her guy in Iowa' to pick up models.

Actually, thinking about it, there is a lot of weird crap about this:
* The person mentioned 'leaving for school' once - I presumed college. Clearly that's probably incorrect. But it puts them in the UK, right? From UK? Going to school?
* They CLAIM to be FROM the UK....and get on and off IM on UK hours (8 hours behind me).
* Yet....the IP address tracks back to Iowa!
* But they never said they were in the UK at the time they were chatting with me!
* The person DID imply they were at the time ("You should come over here to Portsmouth", "Dad just married an American" referring to immigration, etc)

Course, the pictures were very clearly underage pics - so the reporting to Yahoo thing I'm dead-on certain was right and correct.

Bah....this whole thing is horrible.

Lesson: NEVER answer IMs from people you don't know regardless of HOW many auctions you are running...
 

Viper GTS

Lifer
Oct 13, 1999
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Originally posted by: dderidex
Because I don't know for sure this IS a guy. Hell, for all I know, the person in question really IS a girl from the UK and visitting 'her guy in Iowa' to pick up models.

It's not your job to figure it out, the FBI exists for a reason.

Viper GTS
 

dderidex

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Mar 13, 2001
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Originally posted by: bootymac
So will you get in trouble for looking at it?

Another thing to be worried about!

Still, I only looked at the gallery thumbnails at the Yahoo "sample porn" gallery - you know, the small image with the text under it? It was the text that gave it away "so and so at 13" "so and so at 14" "me at 15" "me at 16", etc. I mean, you can tell enough about a pic sized that big to know what's going on. Even in the other photo folders they had were pictures of 'themselves' - clothed, but dressed really, really....inappropriate for their age. In suggestive poses.

*blech*
 

halik

Lifer
Oct 10, 2000
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Originally posted by: dderidex
Originally posted by: bootymac
So will you get in trouble for looking at it?

Another thing to be worried about!

Still, I only looked at the gallery thumbnails at the Yahoo "sample porn" gallery - you know, the small image with the text under it? It was the text that gave it away "so and so at 13" "so and so at 14" "me at 15" "me at 16", etc. I mean, you can tell enough about a pic sized that big to know what's going on. Even in the other photo folders they had were pictures of 'themselves' - clothed, but dressed really, really....inappropriate for their age. In suggestive poses.

*blech*

unless they're naked, i don't think the cops will do anything about it

 

FoBoT

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those kind of preverts might be smart enough to use a trojan, maybe some schmuk in iowa doesn't even know his windows PC is being used for that kind of carp

let the feds handle it
 

dderidex

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Mar 13, 2001
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Originally posted by: halik
Originally posted by: dderidex
Originally posted by: bootymac
So will you get in trouble for looking at it?

Another thing to be worried about!

Still, I only looked at the gallery thumbnails at the Yahoo "sample porn" gallery - you know, the small image with the text under it? It was the text that gave it away "so and so at 13" "so and so at 14" "me at 15" "me at 16", etc. I mean, you can tell enough about a pic sized that big to know what's going on. Even in the other photo folders they had were pictures of 'themselves' - clothed, but dressed really, really....inappropriate for their age. In suggestive poses.

*blech*

unless they're naked, i don't think the cops will do anything about it

Trust me, they were naked. VERY naked.

ANYWAY, I've informed the FBI. Just got off the phone with the Omaha branch, who apparently has jurisdiction over Iowa according to the above site. Wrote up what I knew - guess it's out of my hands now.

Big question, though - this guy has my website info. It'd be DAMNED inconvenient to shut down the site or move it...for now I just took down the index page, making it mostly useless. Is there anything I can do in Apache to block his IP address so I can put it back up?
 

RossMAN

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1) I would contact the Portland, Oregon FBI office at *67 503-224-4181

2) Depending on what they say, then report it to Yahoo!

3) How the hell could this be a "sting"? Wouldn't that be entrapment or stupidity, something like that?

4) If it were me I'd do it all anonymously. Pay phone + cybercafe computer using Yahoo e-mail = :)

Good luck and please keep us informed.
 

Goosemaster

Lifer
Apr 10, 2001
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Originally posted by: dderidex
Originally posted by: halik
Originally posted by: dderidex
Originally posted by: bootymac
So will you get in trouble for looking at it?

Another thing to be worried about!

Still, I only looked at the gallery thumbnails at the Yahoo "sample porn" gallery - you know, the small image with the text under it? It was the text that gave it away "so and so at 13" "so and so at 14" "me at 15" "me at 16", etc. I mean, you can tell enough about a pic sized that big to know what's going on. Even in the other photo folders they had were pictures of 'themselves' - clothed, but dressed really, really....inappropriate for their age. In suggestive poses.

*blech*

unless they're naked, i don't think the cops will do anything about it

Trust me, they were naked. VERY naked.

ANYWAY, I've informed the FBI. Just got off the phone with the Omaha branch, who apparently has jurisdiction over Iowa according to the above site. Wrote up what I knew - guess it's out of my hands now.

Big question, though - this guy has my website info. It'd be DAMNED inconvenient to shut down the site or move it...for now I just took down the index page, making it mostly useless. Is there anything I can do in Apache to block his IP address so I can put it back up?



EDIT:

jsut go here
 

RossMAN

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Feb 24, 2000
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Originally posted by: dderidex
Originally posted by: halik
Originally posted by: dderidex
Originally posted by: bootymac
So will you get in trouble for looking at it?

Another thing to be worried about!

Still, I only looked at the gallery thumbnails at the Yahoo "sample porn" gallery - you know, the small image with the text under it? It was the text that gave it away "so and so at 13" "so and so at 14" "me at 15" "me at 16", etc. I mean, you can tell enough about a pic sized that big to know what's going on. Even in the other photo folders they had were pictures of 'themselves' - clothed, but dressed really, really....inappropriate for their age. In suggestive poses.

*blech*

unless they're naked, i don't think the cops will do anything about it

Trust me, they were naked. VERY naked.

ANYWAY, I've informed the FBI. Just got off the phone with the Omaha branch, who apparently has jurisdiction over Iowa according to the above site. Wrote up what I knew - guess it's out of my hands now.

Big question, though - this guy has my website info. It'd be DAMNED inconvenient to shut down the site or move it...for now I just took down the index page, making it mostly useless. Is there anything I can do in Apache to block his IP address so I can put it back up?

Yes find the .htaccess file located in your home directory (public_html for cPanel) and follow these instructions

order allow,deny
deny from 159.37.7.93 <---- enter IP here
allow from all
 

tami

Lifer
Nov 14, 2004
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Originally posted by: RossMAN
Originally posted by: dderidex
Originally posted by: halik
Originally posted by: dderidex
Originally posted by: bootymac
So will you get in trouble for looking at it?

Another thing to be worried about!

Still, I only looked at the gallery thumbnails at the Yahoo "sample porn" gallery - you know, the small image with the text under it? It was the text that gave it away "so and so at 13" "so and so at 14" "me at 15" "me at 16", etc. I mean, you can tell enough about a pic sized that big to know what's going on. Even in the other photo folders they had were pictures of 'themselves' - clothed, but dressed really, really....inappropriate for their age. In suggestive poses.

*blech*

unless they're naked, i don't think the cops will do anything about it

Trust me, they were naked. VERY naked.

ANYWAY, I've informed the FBI. Just got off the phone with the Omaha branch, who apparently has jurisdiction over Iowa according to the above site. Wrote up what I knew - guess it's out of my hands now.

Big question, though - this guy has my website info. It'd be DAMNED inconvenient to shut down the site or move it...for now I just took down the index page, making it mostly useless. Is there anything I can do in Apache to block his IP address so I can put it back up?

Yes find the .htaccess file located in your home directory (public_html for cPanel) and follow these instructions

order allow,deny
deny from 159.37.7.93 <---- enter IP here
allow from all

as rossman said. also, this may not be necessary, but if it doesn't work (test it out with someone else if you need to), make sure to set the directives appropriately in your httpd.conf as well:

<Directory /var/www/html/naval/>
AllowOverride Options FileInfo
</Directory>

where /var/www/html/naval/ is the path to your web page that you want to restrict access to

then, restart your httpd service
 

dderidex

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Mar 13, 2001
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And the more I look through my Apache log.....the weirder things seem.

It SEEMS they perhaps were using some kind of IP scrambler? Or not?
MOST the calls to my site originated from 69.18.53.51 (Fairfield, Iowa)
A couple came from 65.93.186.140 (Toronto, Ontario)
And 67.184.91.219 (Arlington Heights, IL)

It is entirely possible, however, that the Iowa guy was just sending links to friends he has or something. Whenever I reply in IM with a file address, the first immediate hit on my site was the Iowa link. The others came a few hours later. I'm guessing links to friends.

3 times I linked my site, and 3 times IMMEDIATELY after putting a link in my IM log, Apache showed a hit from the Iowa IP....hmmm....feeling more confident about this call....
 

dderidex

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Mar 13, 2001
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Originally posted by: RossMAN
1) I would contact the Portland, Oregon FBI office at *67 503-224-4181

2) Depending on what they say, then report it to Yahoo!

3) How the hell could this be a "sting"? Wouldn't that be entrapment or stupidity, something like that?

4) If it were me I'd do it all anonymously. Pay phone + cybercafe computer using Yahoo e-mail = :)

Good luck and please keep us informed.

Well, goddamnit, I didn't think to do that. Just pissing myself in nerves too much. Nothing bad can happen to *me*, though, right?

I mean, it'd royally suck if they decided they needed my computer as evidence or something due to the Apache logs.

(Oh, man, that'd suck - I telecommute doing PC support! No computer = instant out-of-a-job!)
 

FoBoT

No Lifer
Apr 30, 2001
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if he is an idiot, he'll get caught.
if he is using a trojan, some poor sod in iowa is going to have a hard time splaining this
 

RossMAN

Grand Nagus
Feb 24, 2000
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Originally posted by: dderidex
Originally posted by: RossMAN
1) I would contact the Portland, Oregon FBI office at *67 503-224-4181

2) Depending on what they say, then report it to Yahoo!

3) How the hell could this be a "sting"? Wouldn't that be entrapment or stupidity, something like that?

4) If it were me I'd do it all anonymously. Pay phone + cybercafe computer using Yahoo e-mail = :)

Good luck and please keep us informed.

Well, goddamnit, I didn't think to do that. Just pissing myself in nerves too much. Nothing bad can happen to *me*, though, right?

I mean, it'd royally suck if they decided they needed my computer as evidence or something due to the Apache logs.

(Oh, man, that'd suck - I telecommute doing PC support! No computer = instant out-of-a-job!)

The important thing is that you are taking action so hopefully justice will be served.
 

dderidex

Platinum Member
Mar 13, 2001
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Originally posted by: tami
Originally posted by: RossMAN

Yes find the .htaccess file located in your home directory (public_html for cPanel) and follow these instructions

order allow,deny
deny from 159.37.7.93 <---- enter IP here
allow from all

as rossman said. also, this may not be necessary, but if it doesn't work (test it out with someone else if you need to), make sure to set the directives appropriately in your httpd.conf as well:

<Directory /var/www/html/naval/>
AllowOverride Options FileInfo
</Directory>

where /var/www/html/naval/ is the path to your web page that you want to restrict access to

then, restart your httpd service

You sure it's not:
"Order deny, allow"?

As it is, it's not blocking anything.