How do you reset a razor, since you cannot take out the battery

glen

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There must be a way to do to it what is done to other phones by turning them off and taking out the battery.
 

yh125d

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I had to do this once with mine, I forget the particular crash or how I fixed it, but it didn't work. I tried all possible combinations of those 3 keys for over 10s and it really did not work at all. It's not all that bothersome really, knowing that if I needed to hard reset I couldn't 100% reliably do it, but I might think about it a little when I buy my next phone.
 

glen

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Is there an advantage to having a batetry that you cannot take out?
 

Doppel

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Good thing the black berry Bold has a removable battery. That piece of sh*t requires a battery reboot from me every few months.
 

Oyeve

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I just hold the power button on my razr for ~10 secs. I dont have to use vol up or down, just the power button.
 

QueBert

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Is there an advantage to having a batetry that you cannot take out?

If done right you get a phone that feel's more solid. The Razr isn't exactly there, but it's a step up every other Android phone I've held. If there are others besides the iPhone & Razr that have the built in battery I'd like to feel them too.

I guess though that this is only really an advantage to people who like a phone that doesn't feel like a toy in your hand. Apparently many people could care less about this.
 

obidamnkenobi

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If done right you get a phone that feel's more solid. The Razr isn't exactly there, but it's a step up every other Android phone I've held. If there are others besides the iPhone & Razr that have the built in battery I'd like to feel them too.

I guess though that this is only really an advantage to people who like a phone that doesn't feel like a toy in your hand. Apparently many people could care less about this.
Nope. Function over form!

edit: to expand. Why do you care that a phone feels more solid? If a test showed that it was more resistant to damage from drops that would be an advantage, but that does not necessarily correlate with how it feels. Just seems silly when people go on about how solid it "feels" as if that means it actually is. If they all break as easily it'd take the one that lighter (and possibly easier to hold), and why should I care how it feels beyond that?
tldr: Plastic is a wonder of modern science..
 
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Red Storm

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If done right you get a phone that feel's more solid. The Razr isn't exactly there, but it's a step up every other Android phone I've held. If there are others besides the iPhone & Razr that have the built in battery I'd like to feel them too.

I guess though that this is only really an advantage to people who like a phone that doesn't feel like a toy in your hand. Apparently many people could care less about this.

Sealed battery or no, to me the Razr was much less comfortable in my hand compared to the Nexus. Also, it looks a lot uglier than the Nexus in my opinion.
 

Oyeve

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Sealed battery or no, to me the Razr was much less comfortable in my hand compared to the Nexus. Also, it looks a lot uglier than the Nexus in my opinion.
I carry around a TMO SGS2 (my personal phone), a razr (ordered one for "work" but really I play with it, job foots the bill) and an iphone 4 (used strictly for playing bejeweled blitz while on the can) and my sgs2 is the most comfortable out of all of them. Sure the razr "feels" more solid but it really feels weird in my hand and the DPI imo is too high and icons are too small and the screen annoys my eyes. My iphone 4 toy feels good in my hand but its only used as a gaming tool and for research for work as everyone has an iphone so I need to know if a particular app works or not. Yes, my sgs2 is plastic but it still feels very solid to me and more importantly it feels comfy. The razr, while I disagree about it looking ugly maybe because i got it in purple, feels too thin and even tho my sgs2 has a bigger, wider screen the razr is actually a tad wider in the body and feel uncomfortable in my hand. All are great toys tho but the sgs2 wins out overall.
 

QueBert

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Nope. Function over form!

edit: to expand. Why do you care that a phone feels more solid? If a test showed that it was more resistant to damage from drops that would be an advantage, but that does not necessarily correlate with how it feels. Just seems silly when people go on about how solid it "feels" as if that means it actually is. If they all break as easily it'd take the one that lighter (and possibly easier to hold), and why should I care how it feels beyond that?
tldr: Plastic is a wonder of modern science..

I'm big on the way things feel, in my 15 years of owning cell phones I've never dropped one, so if it can survive a fall's at the bottom of my list of what I care about. I don't buy a car based off how well it does in crash test ratings either. I've never been a fan of plastic, but that's just me. Also I find removable covers just to be another thing that can f*ck up. My EVO's back cover isn't even flush any more, and it looks tacky to me. Does it effect the phones usability? Not at all, but it's an annoyance to me. iPhone 4s feel solid because they are, they're not going to last if you have butter fingers.
 

PeeluckyDuckee

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With a non-removable battery a heavy user would either have to be by a wall jack, charging on the go in their vehicle, or have a battery pack with them. The benefit of a removable battery is obvious, I can carry an extra battery and I'm good to last me the whole work day and more.

No smartphone battery life is where I'd like them to be, so for argument sakes I would still need a battery pack or a spare battery regardless.

For situations where I cannot reset the phone, a phone with removable battery offers the most simple solution, just pull the battery.
 

AznAnarchy99

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With a non-removable battery a heavy user would either have to be by a wall jack, charging on the go in their vehicle, or have a battery pack with them. The benefit of a removable battery is obvious, I can carry an extra battery and I'm good to last me the whole work day and more.

No smartphone battery life is where I'd like them to be, so for argument sakes I would still need a battery pack or a spare battery regardless.

For situations where I cannot reset the phone, a phone with removable battery offers the most simple solution, just pull the battery.

Ive never seen the point of carrying another battery. Its basically more shit to carry.
 

PeeluckyDuckee

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Ive never seen the point of carrying another battery. Its basically more shit to carry.

Neither is there a point to continue carrying a phone that you can't use when the battery's dead. Seriously, how much of an inconvenience is it to carry a battery? The pros outweigh the con imo. To each their own.
 

QueBert

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Neither is there a point to continue carrying a phone that you can't use when the battery's dead. Seriously, how much of an inconvenience is it to carry a battery? The pros outweigh the con imo. To each their own.

If you're going to carry an extra battery, why not get a phone that has something available for it like the Morphie Juice pack? It doesn't add a lot of size, it more than doubles the battery life. And it also works as a case for your phone.
 

poofyhairguy

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If you're going to carry an extra battery, why not get a phone that has something available for it like the Morphie Juice pack?

Because that is bulk that is always on your phone, while I can leave a spare battery in my car or in my desk.
 

PeeluckyDuckee

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If you're going to carry an extra battery, why not get a phone that has something available for it like the Morphie Juice pack? It doesn't add a lot of size, it more than doubles the battery life. And it also works as a case for your phone.

My current phone is not an iPhone, I use a Galaxy Nexus. A spare battery is MUCH lighter in the pocket than carrying a battery pack of any sorts in my pocket, especially if I need to lug around a USB cable as well.

For those who already have a case for their iPhone, mophie pack would not work and imo adds too much bulk you'd have to have with you 100% of the time. A battery pack like poofyhairguy mentioned can be stored away if not in use, doesn't have to be on your body all the time.
 

poofyhairguy

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One other benefit of removable batteries over a battery case: You can have more than one.

I actually have three SGS2 batteries. I never directly charge my phone, I just flip in charged batteries.

This holiday season when I went on a long trip and I used my phone as a media player I actually dipped into the third battery on one day.
 

PeeluckyDuckee

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To restore battery to an iPhone, you'd either have to carry a heavy battery pack or use a case that acts as a battery extender like the Mophie. If you use the battery pack, you'd also have to carry with you a USB cable.

With the SG2 or Nexus with removable batteries, all I have to do is drop in my spare battery and it's a done deal, I don't actually have to worry about recharging them until I get home. Instant power, much less hassle and weight.
 

ThatsABigOne

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Good thing the black berry Bold has a removable battery. That piece of sh*t requires a battery reboot from me every few months.

Heh! That is not too bad! I usually take the battery out once a week. :thumbsdown:
 

QueBert

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One other benefit of removable batteries over a battery case: You can have more than one.

I actually have three SGS2 batteries. I never directly charge my phone, I just flip in charged batteries.

This holiday season when I went on a long trip and I used my phone as a media player I actually dipped into the third battery on one day.


Yeah, I mean it's not like you can't just buy 2 of anything else right?



To restore battery to an iPhone, you'd either have to carry a heavy battery pack or use a case that acts as a battery extender like the Mophie. If you use the battery pack, you'd also have to carry with you a USB cable.

With the SG2 or Nexus with removable batteries, all I have to do is drop in my spare battery and it's a done deal, I don't actually have to worry about recharging them until I get home. Instant power, much less hassle and weight.

Any good battery pack will plug directly into the port, so no need for a USB cable. And you're telling me having to take the back cover off, put another battery in, put the cover back on and power back on is somehow less hassle then a Morphie which requires you to do nothing? Interesting outlook. BTW I have a 1800mAh battery pack for my iPod Touch, it weighs almost exactly the same as my EVO 4g's battery. Also how the hell is charging 2 different batteries less hassle? I suppose I could buy a dock that has 2 battery slots, but as it stands the only way I could charge a 2nd EVO battery would be to pop a battery out of my phone and put the other in. Doesn't sound like much less hassle to me. Also another cool thing about the Morphies imho is you can use it to charge anything from a BT headset to a digital camera. It can really come in handy in a pinch. Shit you could even use it to charge a Galaxy S2 with a dead battery :D
 
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