How do you pay for your VPN provider?

[sn8ke]

I haven't used this in ten years, but it's an option. https://www.privoxy.org/

Ah, I remember that old gem. It's bundled with Tor isn't it? I know it used to be anyway.
Also Wired doesn't block my adblocker. Works great on FF with uBlock Origin, noscript and js manually disabled. What are you using?

The article is basically a copy/paste of Moxie Marlinspike's article here: https://moxie.org/blog/we-should-all-have-something-to-hide/

 

[John Connor]

Yeah, it was bundled with TOR.

I have a tight ship so a lot of things break. Real PITA sometimes.

 

[Bardock]

Yet another asinine website that blocks ADblockers.

Synopsis?

Yea, it's so dumb, people who are blocking ads obviously aren't going to stop, they are just making the site hard to read by badgering people. Just shows they think the ad space is more relevant to them then content. I block ads by hosts file and wired blocks me, but i have javascript turned on.

I haven't used privoxy in a decade either, but maybe try proxychains.

 

[JoanWilliams]

yeah many VPN providers have the gift card payment option, Bitcoin that is anonymous payment options you have options to pay and they are available for the security and privacy reasons so you don't need to worry about. As far as VPN is concerned there are many options free and paid available in the market but don't opt for free ones they keep logs and kill the purpose of using a VPN premium VPNs are better and some cheap options are also there so you can save some dollar

 

[brayan_kirk]

I paid for VPN with PayPal. This way was absolutely satisfactory for me. But I changed careers and need to be more careful. I understand that my VPN provider do not really need my personal information. But PayPal has my email for payments, and this could allow my VPN account be tracked to me personally. This way my personal security depends on absolute anonymity. So, I think I should use an anonymous payment method. I read a lot about cryptocurrency, especially about Bitcoin. It looks safe. But I don’t know how to use it. Plus, I read that some countries want to create cryptocurrency base https://www.bestvpnrating.com/news/new-cryptocurrency-database Will it take a toll on user’ anonymity? Any opinions?

 

[Bardock]

Opinions, how much time you got? Crypto is easy to use. Read about wallets and exchanges and you'll be on your way. Bitcoin will never be controlled by any state, it's math essentially, you can't make math illegal in a free society. Cryptocurrency allows for you to transfer money without the need for banks. There are many companies that claim to track bitcoin transactions, look at https://walletexplorer.com as an example. I don't think it's stopping anyone from using them anonymously. It would be very hard to correlate the blockchain transactions to real life activities at present, but in the future if such technology becomes available, the blockchain could become one long paper trail. That's a lot of what ifs for now, I would just pay for vpn and/or socks with bitcoin and hope for the best. Anonymity across any electronic medium is becoming a memory.

 

[John Connor]

I would just toss money in Coinbase and then transfer it to a Torwallet and pay right away. Remember to add extra $$$ for the fees.

 

[Red Squirrel]

I'm thinking if you mine the bitcoins yourself it might be more anonymous too, would it? That way you are not tying the purchase of the coins with a real life transaction, which brings you back to square one. Idealy you'd want to mine them off a fairly anonymous connection like Tor, not sure if that's doable.

Only thing is I don't know how feasible it would be to mine, like how long would it take to get enough to pay? Years? Of course there would be a real life transaction tied to buying the ASIC, but at that point you just look like yet another bitcoin miner wanting to buy equipment and pretty much sneak under the radar.

 

[Yakk]

BTC is not really completely anonymous, just very hard to track. With enough motivation an entity can trace BTC interactions and locations. Though it would take a major reason to expend the (ie: government) resources to do so.

You can just go to https://blockchain.info/ and look around for yourself.

To put it in perspective : http://insidebitcoins.com/news/using-the-blockchain-trail-to-track-stolen-bitcoins/28932

 

[Bardock]

Coinbase is an evil company that turns its users into law enforcement. Mining is more anonymous but the best way is to buy direct from a miner in cash. The only downside to this is getting robbed, which hasn't happened to me but an obvious risk in any cash buy. Use a cold storage wallet that you can keep on you, not torwallet or any such online wallet. There are services to launder your coins with others to cover your trail. https://news.bitcoin.com/coinbase-helps-fbi-shut-kickasstorrents/

 

[John Connor]

That's why I send add coins to Coinbase and send them to Torwallet and use right away. They are now properly laundered.

 

[Bardock]

If torwallet lets you withdraw and if coinbase doesn't report the amount you sent to the fbi, so they can correlate whatever you buy with it. This method you describe is not anonymous or secure in any way, it's bad advice. I have posted links about torwallet being selective scammers, a link in my last post about coinbase turning kickasstorrents in, give them a read. I wouldn't trust my freedom or my money to these companies.

 

[John Connor]

Torwallet is turning you in?

I said send the coins to Torwallet and use them right away. That way they are not stolen.

 

[Bardock]

Coinbase turns people in, torwallet are selective scammers. If torwallet turn off your ability to withdraw you aren't sending them right away or at any other time. Why give up the control of releasing your funds to another entity? I don't see any advantage and I see huge disadvantages. Why not install a wallet on your computer or usb and control the coins yourself? Would you rather be robbed? As for coinbase and circle and services such as these, there is nothing anonymous or safe about using them.

 

[John Connor]

So if you were to use your own wallet on your computer you would still have to use a laundering service. God knows if your IP is attached to your PC-based wallet.

 

[Bardock]

thats why you only log into it via tor and linux

 

[Bardock]

and yes use a laundering service by all means, that I do agree with

 

[John Connor]

thats why you only log into it via tor and linux

So the wallet on the PC only communicates over the Internet when you launch the software? There are not background processes?

 

[Bardock]

Depends which one you use and what kind of wallet. With cold storage, the private keys and all the secret info is stored offline, you only go online to do transactions. Most wallets for linux don't have background processes, that's more of the official bitcoin-qt for windows. But with that you have to download the entire blockchain for it to work (over 20 gb). I think the cold storage ones are better and more portable. You can have that built into a linux os on usb, then boot into it when you need a transaction.

 

[John Connor]

I have yet to try Tails. But I wonder if that could be integrated. I haven't got the slightest clue on how to integrate programs in a Linux live CD. Only did it with UBCD4Win. Come to think of it. I could do that in a virtual machine. But how do you configure the wallet to use the Tor SOCKS proxy port? Then again, Tails may encompass all traffic to Tor so that might be a good VM install I need to try and test. I have Tails downloaded, but never had the time to test.

 

[John Connor]

What Linux cold storage wallets do you recommend? Have you used a bitcoin laundering service? If so, which one do you use?

 

[Bardock]

Electrum, comes preinstalled on tails helix, payshield, bitblender are all good services.

 

[John Connor]

Electrum, comes preinstalled on tails helix, payshield, bitblender are all good services.

Well how be damned! LOL Now I have even more reason to throw Tails in VMware and check it out. I did have an issue with Ubuntu Server LTS so I hope this freking works otherwise I'll have to try Virtual Box. There is even a Virtual Box portable, but I call it semi-portable. Found that while making my own portable Teamspeak with Enigma Virtual box. You can read about that at my site systechforum.net. Can't post an exact link since I forbid many VPNs from connecting and I'm on my VPN right now.


Anyway, found this gem while searching for those laundering bit coin services! https://www.deepdotweb.com/2016/04/13/using-bitcoin-casinos-launder-bitcoin/

If you don't mind me asking. What country are you from?

 

[Bardock]

I don't mind, I am from America. The tails devs are against running tails in vm as the host os logs all the vm activity. Burn to dvd or usb for proper use. On usb you can format a partition and encrypt the partition with LUKS.

 

[John Connor]

My host is encrypted.

Using Tails in the VM I wouldn't even consider installing VMware Tools either.

What I have to do is bridge connections and use my VPN on the host. That way I have encrypted traffic over the Tor circuit.

This forum's subscriptions suxx. I just seen your post navigating to this subforum. I haven't been getting alerts to other post's I'm wondering if there is a time cut off or some damn thing. Also, the Vid embedding sucks. Some users can embed while others can't. Xenforo is a sucky platform, I like phpBB better. I use that myself.