How do you make a generalization without being labled racist?

[PanzerIV]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: biostud
find other reasons why they're criminal: like beeing poor, bad education drug problems, no jobs etc.

What if the problem really does move along racial lines? Can you still point it out without being called racist? I remember that I told someone once that sickle cell anemia is a disease that mostly affects people with African bloodlines. They said that I was racist and that everyone has the same chance of having it, regardless of race. This is patently false.

How can you point out that something runs along racial lines without being called racist?

I think you are mixing apples with oranges here and you were dealing with dumb f^cks in your scenario.

 

[Ilmater]

Originally posted by: Injury

Originally posted by: Stefan
In my city, there is a large native population. Many members of this population are responsible for the majority of criminal activity in the city. Our prisons are at least 60-70% native.

When I am downtown I am much more cautious around natives than white or other races. I don't have a problem with natives because they are native. I'm just more cautious because the chance I'll meet one that will cause problems is significantly higher than with other races in the city.

If the percentage of natives in your city is 60-70% or more, you are an asshat.

In response to your thread... you don't make a generalization or stereotype people. Present factual information if you want to not be taken for a racist or an idiot.

Please explain how what he posted wasn't factual information, assuming he's not lying or making things up.

 

[ISAslot]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: biostud
find other reasons why they're criminal: like beeing poor, bad education drug problems, no jobs etc.

What if the problem really does move along racial lines? Can you still point it out without being called racist? I remember that I told someone once that sickle cell anemia is a disease that mostly affects people with African bloodlines. They said that I was racist and that everyone has the same chance of having it, regardless of race. This is patently false.

How can you point out that something runs along racial lines without being called racist?

Be black?

 

[Ilmater]

Originally posted by: meltdown75
I bet your liquor stores are always sold out. *braces for flames*

Look guys! It's the straw that broke the camel's back! IBTL!!!

 

[biostud]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: biostud
find other reasons why they're criminal: like beeing poor, bad education drug problems, no jobs etc.

What if the problem really does move along racial lines? Can you still point it out without being called racist? I remember that I told someone once that sickle cell anemia is a disease that mostly affects people with African bloodlines. They said that I was racist and that everyone has the same chance of having it, regardless of race. This is patently false.

How can you point out that something runs along racial lines without being called racist?

If things are proven by science it's not racism. You talked with stupid people.
On the other hand white people are more susceptible to malaria of the same reason.

 

[GroundZero]

fvck 'em if they can't deal with it.

 

[imported_Salvatore]

How do you make a generalization without being labled racist?

It's simple. In our society, you can't.

EDIT: Some valid points were brought into this topic, so I'll shift my views a bit. However, you're Canadians, so I wouldn't know about your society. Beautiful country though.

 

[meltdown75]

Originally posted by: Ilmater

Originally posted by: meltdown75
I bet your liquor stores are always sold out. *braces for flames*

Look guys! It's the straw that broke the camel's back! IBTL!!!

ehhehe. no way should this get locked just for that lame ass comment.

btw, I'm part "Native Canadian".

 

[Colt45]

I know what you mean. I don't hate anyone off the bat, but most of the situations i've gotten into (i.e. getting jacked for smokes) wasn't done by a white guy, so i tend to be a little more cautious. I mean it depends how the guy is dressed/talks/attitude too.

That said, I know quite a few indians that are standup guys. A lot of the problem (IMO) is parenting / environment. But then some kids come from ruin and turn out to be great guys too.. who knows..


Edit: I mean cautious in rough areas, not everywhere

 

[torpid]

Why do you bother to mention that you have to be more careful downtown because of the natives? You shouldn't think that way. It starts with a racist assumption. The bad parts of LA and chicago might be predominantly african american, but it is not dangerous because they are african american. There are also dangerous caucasions, asians, etc. in the area. It is the area's economic and civic problems that make it dangerous. I am guessing the same is true of "downtown" for you.

Racism is not just how you think when you are sitting alone in your home thinking about a particular race. It is also how you act and react when you encounter people of other races and how you interpret and view the world. The above is a perfect example.

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: Abix
You dont.

and you can't.

 

[Injury]

Originally posted by: Ilmater

Originally posted by: Injury

Originally posted by: Stefan
In my city, there is a large native population. Many members of this population are responsible for the majority of criminal activity in the city. Our prisons are at least 60-70% native.

When I am downtown I am much more cautious around natives than white or other races. I don't have a problem with natives because they are native. I'm just more cautious because the chance I'll meet one that will cause problems is significantly higher than with other races in the city.

If the percentage of natives in your city is 60-70% or more, you are an asshat.

In response to your thread... you don't make a generalization or stereotype people. Present factual information if you want to not be taken for a racist or an idiot.

Please explain how what he posted wasn't factual information, assuming he's not lying or making things up.

I never said it wasn't. I'm saying he'd be an asshat if the population of the city is 60-70% or more native because with their prisons being (apparently) 60-70% native, it would mean that natives are LESS likely to end up in prison.

If you aren't going to state all the facts, don't bother stating any of them, or you risk your statement bearing no credibility.

 

[illustri]

i wish people weren't afraid about being labeled anything... if you have an opinion you feel is valid just come out and lets discuss it

don't pussyfoot it by veiling your statements in a white flag of concern for political correctness

 

[squirrel dog]

And during the month of Feb. :roll:

 

[joecool]

don't make generalizations

 

[FrustratedUser]

Originally posted by: Stefan
In my city, there is a large native population. Many members of this population are responsible for the majority of criminal activity in the city. Our prisons are at least 60-70% native.

When I am downtown I am much more cautious around natives than white or other races. I don't have a problem with natives because they are native. I'm just more cautious because the chance I'll meet one that will cause problems is significantly higher than with other races in the city.

j00 = SOL
Anytime you state your facts you will be called racist.

 

[Stark]

Why does he ask you, "How?"
Why does he ask you, "How?"
Once the beloved patriot didn't know
All the things that he know now.
But the beloved patriot, he sure learn a lot,
And it's all from asking, "How?"

Hana Mana Ganda!
Hana Mana Ganda!
We translate for you:
Hana means what mana means,
And ganda means that too.

When did he first say, "Ugh!"
When did he first say, "Ugh!"
In the beloved patriot book it say
When the first brave married squaw
He gave out with a big ugh,
When he saw his Mother-in-Law.

What made the red man red?
What made the red man red?
Let's go back a million years,
To the very first beloved patriot prince.
He kissed a maid and start to blush,
And we've all been blushin' since.

You've got it from the headman,
The real true story of the red man,
No matter what's been written or said.
Now you know why the red man's red!

woo-hoo for pre-pc disney!

 

[PlatinumGold]

Short people tend to be short.

generalization?

 

[Injury]

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
Short people tend to be short.

generalization?

are you making fun of might height you stereotyping prick?

 

[PlatinumGold]

Originally posted by: Injury

Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
Short people tend to be short.

generalization?

are you making fun of might height you stereotyping prick?

are you short??

if yes, then i am calling you a person that tends to be short.

i've always found in my experience that short people tend to be shorter than tall people.

i guess i'm a really bad height discriminator.

 

[yukichigai]

Back it up with facts. Though racists do that too, but other things on top of that make them racist.

For example, most oriental women -- immegrants(sp?) that is -- are in fact horrible drivers. It's not some genetic thing, it's just where they come from. In many oriental countries, say Japan, the street addresses on each block are done by the order in which the building was built, not the position on the street. This makes driving in Japan... well... interesting. Hence why they drive horribly when they come to America. They're driving expertly compared to what they're used to.

 

[n666]

I?m sorry but the position of street addresses has nothing to do with a 70 year old Japanese woman backing into my parked car...

i think old people shoul be retested anyways



as for the topic.. it's perfectly fine to make generalizations as long as they are not completely idiotic (ex: most short swedes have green eyes). The best way is to leave room for exceptions by saying "most"

 

[SaberDicer]

You don't, the society has become so enamored with being politically correct that if you say anything involving race you'll be labeled a racist, just accept it. Such as where I live (Baltimore) <80% of the homocides are drug/gang related and by blacks, how ever if I say that inner city blacks are involved in drug related violence I'm labeled a racist, So I accept that society labels me so, which only futher feeds my hate, what a vicious cycle.

 

[classy]

Originally posted by: Stefan
In my city, there is a large native population. Many members of this population are responsible for the majority of criminal activity in the city. Our prisons are at least 60-70% native.

When I am downtown I am much more cautious around natives than white or other races. I don't have a problem with natives because they are native. I'm just more cautious because the chance I'll meet one that will cause problems is significantly higher than with other races in the city.

Yea white people never break the law :roll: