How do you know when you are gay?

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OceanFariy

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<< Side Topic: I've always wondered why it's alright to call someone a jackass, but not a "sandn!gger" as someone pointed out. Is jackass not offensive to the mules? >>



--eye roll--

Thanks the much-needed humor.
 

gopunk

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I'm sorry, but I don't think it's arrogant to point it out when a member has made a statement that is inappropriate or unkind towards a large group of people.

no it isn't, but i do think it is arrogant to say something like

thanks, that was more like it. I can respect a post like that

maybe it's just me, but if somebody said that to me, i'd be a little pissy too. think of it like this... say you work in mcdonalds, and one of your coworkers comes up to you and says something like "thanks for making that hamburger like that, that's a lot better than you were making them before". do you see the problem? your coworker is not in a position to be making that type of a comment.
 

Xomon

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<< You realize, of course, that lots of gay people form meaningful relationships with others? That they just want to be happy in life? Can you honestly tell me that you're not attracted to women to please yourself? Or that straight men only have sex to please women? You must be an idiot if you believe that. >>



I do understand this, and certainly it's not outside of the realm of possibility to have a loving relationship with someone of your own sex. I congratulate anyone with the propensity to maintain a stable gay relationship. More power to them, for sure.

All I can say is I speak from experience, and there has been no fulfillment for me whatsoever. I'm not someone who would respond to this thread without a clear idea of what I'm talking about. Sexually, my life has taken many interesting turns. I don't discount the fact that while I was sucking dick I enjoyed it. At that moment yes, it was very exciting and primal and rebellious.

The point is that in the long run... Trust me, you will be no more happy than you were the day you realized you wanted to have sex with yourself. Oops, I mean sex with someone of your own sex.
 

OceanFariy

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If your original hamburger was raw and had yellow manyonnaise, I think it would be well within reason to tell them the new one was much better.
 

NikPreviousAcct

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<< I'm a straight white female. >>

Yeah, that's exactly what my uncle thinks about himself. ;) Sure... But still, you're arguement is hardly received and disrespectfully returned.




<< If your original hamburger was raw and had yellow manyonnaise, I think it would be well within reason to tell them the new one was much better >>

No, that just means that you're too fvcking stupid to actually eat the burger before you knew what was in it.
 

OceanFariy

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Any kind of sexual experimentation can be confusing or hurtful in the long run. But if Xomon were really gay, I think he'd have kept going with guys.
 

pulse8

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Xomon:

You cannot base everyone elses experiences on yours. It sounds like you ARE NOT gay, but were confused about that. Not everyone is confused. Some just know that they are gay and are happy with that lifestyle.

Did you ever consider that the fact that you didn't continue gay sex is because you ARE NOT gay??
 

OceanFariy

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<< yes, and that is why i made that statement ;) >>



For someone who is so non-confrontational, you sure are confrontational.
 

gopunk

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For someone who is so non-confrontational, you sure are confrontational.

please don't think this is another attempt to be confrontational, because i really want to know the answer to the question i'm about to ask you.

when did i say i was non-confrontational? are people talking about me behind my back or something?
 

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<< All I can say is I speak from experience... >>

And thank you for assuming that I don't. I've had sexual relations with other males. I've actually been far more intimate with a male than I have with a female. I can honestly say that neither situation was more satisfying than the other, but I would do both of them again.
 

compuwiz1

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<< For someone who is so non-confrontational, you sure are confrontational. >>



Everyone can be confrontational; it all depends on the degree to which they believe in their purpose. :)
 

OceanFariy

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gopunk, essentially you are just doing was I was doing -- speaking up against a post I thought was out of line.
I could mention an obvious adjective, but it was implied and I'm sure you're intelligent enough to figure it out.
 

gopunk

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btw oceanfariy...

are you bitter against males? because i have a bi friend who is... she's always telling me about how "it's guys like you that made me bi..."
 

gopunk

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gopunk, essentially you are just doing was I was doing -- speaking up against a post I thought was out of line.
I could mention an obvious adjective, but it was implied and I'm sure you're intelligent enough to figure it out.


not to mention it wouldn't quite fit the situation, since i don't consider your posts to be offensive, out of line, or whatever. i just disagree with a lot of the statements you have to make. if you were to make a post where i agree with you, do you think i would post something like "thanks, now i can respect you..."? hopefully not.

but i digress, who said i was non-confrontational? the curiosity is killing me...
 

Xomon

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Actually I'm sorry I posted anything in this thread now that I realize way too many human emotions and experiences are involved..

I haven't assumed anything and won't assume anything, I was only expressing an opinion.
 

OceanFariy

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I'm have no bitterness towards males at all. I'm not sure what I've said that would make you think so... I don't like it when people are homophobic. But women can be homophobic, too. I am not bisexual or gay in least. But I don't like it when anyone, male or female, says things that are hurtful about a group of people just because they do something that you don't think is fun.
I don't like rap music but I don't feel the need to make hurtful and gross generalizations about the people who do. The same should go for people who are straight. I don't like it when people let who they are become a model for the world. And I don't like it when people are close-minded. Part of my beef with FFM's original post was that he sounded proud of how close-minded he was, and that sounded like something I needed to comment on.
 

OceanFariy

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gopunk, no one said you were "non-confrontational" before you did. Or at least that's what you would appear to like us to believe after reading the hamburger story. Not wanting to tell someone when something they've done is right and they have improved, just because they might feel bad about their previous attempt, seems pretty non-confrontational to me.
 

OceanFariy

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at any rate, i have cleared up all questions asked of me at the time I am posting this, and I think I have made my point clear. With that, I'm off to bed.
 

NikPreviousAcct

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OceanFariy,
And, like I proved, I'm not "close-minded." I have my reasons to think the way I do. Simply because other people say "you're mean! So nyah!" and I don't change my mind to "OMG! GAYS ARE DA BOMB!" doesn't make me close minded. :|

Don't you have some cooking or cleaning you need to be doing? If not, get me a beer.




















































:D JUST KIDDING! :D
 

gopunk

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I'm have no bitterness towards males at all. I'm not sure what I've said that would make you think so...

i think you might be taking me a little too seriously, i didn't mean to imply anything, i was just curious. i'm a very curious person. but not in that way. ;)
 

gopunk

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Not wanting to tell someone when something they've done is right and they have improved, just because they might feel bad about their previous attempt, seems pretty non-confrontational to me.

ah, but you're assuming that's my reason for not saying anything. the real reason? because it's none of my business! i would have no qualms about doing that if i was my coworker's manager, but the fact of the matter is, i'm not. i have no business telling him where he needs improvement. i wouldn't want somebody who was my equal to be telling me how to do things, so i don't do it to other people.