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Cook1

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Originally posted by: torpid
From a boss's perspective, I would think that you are at least somewhat to blame because this other employee does not trust you or respond to you.

That's the thing, she doesn't trust nor respond to anyone in the office BUT the boss. And I could care less if she trusts me, this is a PT job that I make $10 an hour at. I just need her to be able to do her damn job.

 

Queasy

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Originally posted by: torpid
I don't know what type of boss you have, but I would be very hesitant to do any of the above suggestions that involve complaining to the boss or passive aggressive training sheets. Those things can come back to bite you because it shows that you are unable to deal with difficult situations or people.

From a boss's perspective, I would think that you are at least somewhat to blame because this other employee does not trust you or respond to you.

Hell, I did the training sheets thing because I had a co-worker who didn't know how to do anything and was constantly getting other people to do his work for him by "asking" them to help. I was actually commended on the training sheets. Everytime the guy asked me for help on basic stuff I just told him to go by the training sheet.

Still, this lady shouldn't need training sheets on how to do a Save As. That's supposed to be basic business knowledge in today's office environments.

I eventually worked my way up to complaining with the boss because this dude basically refused to learn and was constantly trying to shovel his work off on others while he cruised college basketball websites all day.
 

shimsham

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Originally posted by: torpid
I don't know what type of boss you have, but I would be very hesitant to do any of the above suggestions that involve complaining to the boss or passive aggressive training sheets. Those things can come back to bite you because it shows that you are unable to deal with difficult situations or people.

From a boss's perspective, I would think that you are at least somewhat to blame because this other employee does not trust you or respond to you.

maybe the first or second time the new girl doesnt get it, but when it keeps recurring, then im betting the manager and boss are wise enough to know that its not cook1s fault that this new girl just isnt catching on.

im sure the manager and boss have already discussed this girl as theyre just keeping her around as a warm body until they can find someone better.

cook1, if your manager feels the same way you do, i wouldnt let it bother me. as long as those that matter there know you do your job, dont sweat the new girls incompetence.


 

Bryophyte

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See if you can make her communicate with you by email. Send her emails on how to do the things she expects you to teach her, so that you have proof you've shown her how to do it. When the boss asks you if you taught her how to do it, turn to her and ask her to refer to the email you sent her xxx many days/weeks ago. Document this stuff, particularly her email responses, hehe.
 

Cook1

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Originally posted by: Bryophyte
See if you can make her communicate with you by email. Send her emails on how to do the things she expects you to teach her, so that you have proof you've shown her how to do it. When the boss asks you if you taught her how to do it, turn to her and ask her to refer to the email you sent her xxx many days/weeks ago. Document this stuff, particularly her email responses, hehe.

I've done the email thing, she'll then call me over to ask a question. I'll ask her if she followed my instructions, she'll say yes. Then I'll say ok open up the document and we'll go from there, her response is "Well I don't know where I saved it".
 

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From what you describe, I don't think she is making you look incompetent. Rather, she is looking like a jerk and also demonstrating that she does not take responsibility for her own shortcomings. If you feel the boss is getting the wrong impression though, then have a constructive (non-whiny) private discussion about it.
 

Cook1

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I'm feeling better about all of this now...mostly because I'm been fantasizing about smacking her around for the past 30 minutes or so.
 

torpid

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Originally posted by: Cook1
Originally posted by: torpid
From a boss's perspective, I would think that you are at least somewhat to blame because this other employee does not trust you or respond to you.

That's the thing, she doesn't trust nor respond to anyone in the office BUT the boss. And I could care less if she trusts me, this is a PT job that I make $10 an hour at. I just need her to be able to do her damn job.

That's a pipe dream. If you want to make it clear to your boss that she has a problem and that there's nothing you can do about it, then you have to talk to your boss. If you want to make her less hostile, then you have to suck up to her. But ultimately there's nothing you can do make her more competent, only to make her less annoying.
 

Chryso

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It doesn't sound like you are looking bad to the boss.
It sounds like she is.
 

Shelly21

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Oh yes, Goldmine is a contact management software, a lot of stock brokers use it.

At anyrate, just make a step by step documentation for everything so that even a monkey can do it by looking at the document.
(use excessive Print Screen key and paste the screenshot to Word).
 

Toasthead

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Originally posted by: BCYL
If she calls the boss over for every little thing, i'm sure you're not the one looking like an asshat

yeah I agree...im sure the boss will get tired of her sh1t soon enough
 

DaShen

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Originally posted by: AmerDoux
Originally posted by: Cook1
Thanks for the tips, and I have spoken to another co-worker about it (actually the office manager about it) and apprently she does the same things to her.

Perhaps you two can develop a training sheet for everyone. You include bullets of the main training points on the sheet and then each employee who has reviewed the training signs off and dates it. Implement this for every employee. Makes for good CYA and an employee cannot later claim that they were never informed. Remember, "If it's not in writing, it never happened".

QFT. With any work environment anything in writing is pure gold because it makes anyone who reads it responsible for what is written.
 

DaShen

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Originally posted by: torpid
I don't know what type of boss you have, but I would be very hesitant to do any of the above suggestions that involve complaining to the boss or passive aggressive training sheets. Those things can come back to bite you because it shows that you are unable to deal with difficult situations or people.

From a boss's perspective, I would think that you are at least somewhat to blame because this other employee does not trust you or respond to you.

Are you serious? Of course you can be direct to your boss. It shows initiative. As long as you don't make a habit of complaining about situations and you present the matter in a professional matter, no problem.

Again, he doesn't have to present it in a way to make it sound like he or the lady has a problem, but you can present it in a way to show you are looking for better way to further production in the company. For instance, you could address the issue of not having standard protocol to training, and that he would be willing to head up setting up protocol and methods for training so that no problems may arise in the future.

As for a training sheet, if done correctly, it is a great way to make sure you can't be blamed for a coworkers inappropriate behavior. What do you suggest then, grin and bear it. In most cases, yes. But if it affects how the boss views your performance, you must show initiative otherwise you are viewed in just as much a poor light as the other worker. Why just smolder and sweat over the fact that you are viewed in a bad light when you can fix it? If the boss thinks it is partly the person's responsibility, why in the heck would he just sit there and allow the boss to continually think poorly of him? :roll:

I did things this way with my coworker, and he and I don't have any problems. Actually, he confided to me that I was one of the only people in the department he can get along with (although I still think he is an asshat). All he knows is that if he gives me an attitude, I will excuse myself and just go back to doing my own work. Since he knows that, he doesn't step over the line. I am respectful to him, and I expect to be treated with the same amount of respect. But of course since he is a punk to most of the other people, he is going to leave soon.
 
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uhhh. if she is that stupid then you need to do nothing. she will probably forget how to breathe at any moment.
 

Cook1

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Originally posted by: Accipiter22
Originally posted by: BCYL
If she calls the boss over for every little thing, i'm sure you're not the one looking like an asshat

MFT


(my first thoughts)

Glad to know that others think that way as well. Most days I just shrug it off, but today it just bothered me.
 

isasir

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Perhaps you could suggest to her that she make some notes while you're explaining something to her so that she can reference it.

I have a co-worker here that is immensely stupid when it comes to computers, and she makes notes for everything, and for the most part, it seems to work for her.

The funniest thing though, no joke, she has a note on her desk that says " : ) = smiley face" :p