How do you get web surfers to stop picking on your daughter?...YELL AT THEM!

[0roo0roo]

They've also alerted authorities to animal abusers and pedophiles, and trolled Scientologists. I like that there's a place like 4chan on the net. It keeps things interesting.

Yup while they seem distasteful, they did her family a favor. Better they get shocked now with a rap on the knuckles than to have their daughter groomed under their noses.

 

[AreaCode707]

i 100% agree. to many parent sare like that though. why is a 11 yr old posting the shit she did?

though id o think 4chan did go to far.

Because her dad thinks the solution to his 11 year old posting nude pictures on the internet is to yell at a webcam. Clearly she's been exposed to adult language, concepts and behavior that she was far too young to take in. Simply more parenting fail.

 

[TuxDave]

And you are surprised by this considering it's /b/? Are you new to the internet or are you just hearing of what /b/ has done? They've pushed people to suicide, trolled Oprah, rigged hundreds of polls and votes, and generally made a fool out of the mainstream media. This is just a bump in the road for /b/.

I'm familiar with /b/, however I'm not a subscriber to the idea that "just because they act like an asshole all day long makes it magically ok". So no, I'm not surprised that they do this type of shit, but that doesn't mean I don't have to think that it's ok.

As for you GodlessAstronomer, I left people like you back in high school and actually decided to grow up. Say whatever you want, I'm just happy I don't have to deal with assholes like you in real life because ignoring you on the forums is trivial.

 

[GodlessAstronomer]

As for you GodlessAstronomer, I left people like you back in high school and actually decided to grow up. Say whatever you want, I'm just happy I don't have to deal with assholes like you in real life because ignoring you on the forums is trivial.

 

[AreaCode707]

GA, one of the things I like about ATOT is that people stick around for years and years. I look forward to a discussion in 30+ years where you talk about how dumb you were in your 20s. 😉

 

[Sea Moose]

Lol ,

Godless is ok, he just suffers from being a kiwi and also talks funny

Pew Pew! Fush und chucps Bro! Choice!


(joking godless)

 

[GTaudiophile]

It's sad all around.

Her parents are a disgrace. She is a disgrace.

She obviously doesn't get the love she really needs, otherwise she wouldn't need to act out like she does. And it's sad that love and approval are quantified by those characteristics she is bragging about possessing.

While /b went too far, she needed it thrown back in her face.

 

[Perknose]

I tend to agree with this:

Digital jerks are 100x worse than real life ones. Most of the internet haters, /b/tards and the like would quickly change if they got the assbeatings they would receive in real life for their actions. They are only jerks because they can hide behind a keyboard.

IMHO it's those people who can't deal well with physical interactions.

But I also agree with this, that the parents are at the crux of this matter:

There is tons of fail in those videos but the worst point of fail is when, after yelling at the webcam, the dad turns and WALKS OUT OF THE FUCKING ROOM, leaving his 11 year old to continue broadcasting who knows what shit to the entire internet.

That is a parenting fail of epic proportions and, in light of what they were already experiencing from 4chan, qualifies him as a negligent parent in my book.

But I also hope that this below was typed in the heat of the moment.

Every social worker on the front lines will tell you, without hesitation, that parents and living situations TEN TIMES WORSE than those idiot, indulgent parents are still preferable to a child being put in the system.

If you don't believe me, find any veteran one and ask them.

CPS should take that kid away and put her in care that has experience helping over-sexualized kids recover.

Maybe if the system were better, but it isn't. It just isn't. It isn't even close.

But, I'm sorry, I forgot. This thread is more about calling an admittedly stupid, mouthy, out of her element 11 year old girl a whore and celebrating the awesome avenging awfulness of b-tards.

Carry on! 🙂

 

[nick1985]

you have just entered the very heart, soul, and life force of the internet. this is a place beyond sanity, wild and untamed. there is nothing new here. "new" content on 4chan is not found; it is created from old material. every interesting, offensive, shocking, or debate inspiring topic youve seen elsewhere has been posted here ad infinitum. we are the reason for "not safe for work". we are the anonymous army. cross us and you will fail. anonymous is everywhere. you depend on us every day. we bag your groceries, we fix your computers. anonymous sees you before you see him. sitting at desks around the world right now is a nameless, faceless, unforgiving mafia composed of the best of the best.

we are 4channers. the people devoid of any type of soul or conscience. products of cynicism and apathy, spreading those very sentiments daily. anonymous is the hardened war veteran of the internet. he does not forgive or forget. we have seen things that defy explantions. heard stories that would make any god-fearing, law abiding citzen empty their stomach where they stand. we have experienced them multiple times and eagerly await their return.

4chan is a place of sheer genius and utter stupidity, and there is often a thin line dividing the two. here you will see a state of mind that exists in most human beings, but is rarely if ever shown. this is a place where taboos do not exist. 4chan cannot simply be regarded as a simple website or imageboard. it is so much more than code. 4chan is alive and constantly changing. this is a subculture, a self-governing sect of the world. rich in history and foundation. to become a 4chan user is to speak a different language. to leave behind any methods of conventional thinking you once knew.

there are things here that you will not understand and things you never will understand. if you cannot accept this then GTFO now. because there is no turning back.

this is 4chan
this is /b/

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=4chan&defid=1784724

 

[BUTCH1]

you have just entered the very heart, soul, and life force of the internet. this is a place beyond sanity, wild and untamed. there is nothing new here. "new" content on 4chan is not found; it is created from old material. every interesting, offensive, shocking, or debate inspiring topic youve seen elsewhere has been posted here ad infinitum. we are the reason for "not safe for work". we are the anonymous army. cross us and you will fail. anonymous is everywhere. you depend on us every day. we bag your groceries, we fix your computers. anonymous sees you before you see him. sitting at desks around the world right now is a nameless, faceless, unforgiving mafia composed of the best of the best.

we are 4channers. the people devoid of any type of soul or conscience. products of cynicism and apathy, spreading those very sentiments daily. anonymous is the hardened war veteran of the internet. he does not forgive or forget. we have seen things that defy explantions. heard stories that would make any god-fearing, law abiding citzen empty their stomach where they stand. we have experienced them multiple times and eagerly await their return.

4chan is a place of sheer genius and utter stupidity, and there is often a thin line dividing the two. here you will see a state of mind that exists in most human beings, but is rarely if ever shown. this is a place where taboos do not exist. 4chan cannot simply be regarded as a simple website or imageboard. it is so much more than code. 4chan is alive and constantly changing. this is a subculture, a self-governing sect of the world. rich in history and foundation. to become a 4chan user is to speak a different language. to leave behind any methods of conventional thinking you once knew.

there are things here that you will not understand and things you never will understand. if you cannot accept this then GTFO now. because there is no turning back.

this is 4chan
this is /b/

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=4chan&defid=1784724

OK Mr. heavy, we get the "we are 4chan's" theme but keep in mind that even in the darkest recesses of internets an 11 year old is an 11 year old, but I blame the parents who obliviously are clueless as to all things online. The re-mix is friggin hilarious though..

 

[AreaCode707]

I tend to agree with this:



But I also agree with this, that the parents are at the crux of this matter:



But I also hope that this below was typed in the heat of the moment.

Every social worker on the front lines will tell you, without hesitation, that parents and living situations TEN TIMES WORSE than those idiot, indulgent parents are still preferable to a child being put in the system.

If you don't believe me, find any veteran one and ask them.



Maybe if the system were better, but it isn't. It just isn't. It isn't even close.

But, I'm sorry, I forgot. This thread is more about calling an admittedly stupid, mouthy, out of her element 11 year old girl a whore and celebrating the awesome avenging awfulness of b-tards.

Carry on! 🙂

I have to disagree, Perky. This young girl is displaying behavior typical of children who have been sexually abused. Inappropriate dress, adult language, sexual response to non-sexual situations, attention-getting behavior.

On top of that, that kid went from taunting the trolls with aplomb to tormented crying. I would bet you that the back of dad's hand or worse was involved in that transformation.

There are a lot of people in the system who provide good short-term and long-term living situations with caseworker supervision. They have to go through training, selection, home visits, and regular contact with CWs. It takes sometimes up to a year to be approved as a foster family. Do regular parental situations have that level of accountability? No!

It's better for kids to be with their parents, yes, but sometimes it's just not. CPS should definitely be involved in investigating this situation, perhaps resulting in simple parenting classes, perhaps in taking away the child. That decision is up to the investigator with lots more data than we have available.

 

[lxskllr]

Government intrusion is seldom the answer. The girl was displaying nothing more than internetitis. She's spent too much time online, and has a skewed view of what proper behavior is. No Soviet Union for me, thanks....

 

[disappoint]

It's terribad what they did to her. And by they I mean her parents.

 

[BUTCH1]

Here's yet another tee-shirt, this thing is gathering momentum..http://www.zazzle.com/consequences_tshirt-235093998809578831

 

[mcmilljb]

I thought it was funny when she said "stop hating" in her crying video.

Bad parenting. Who lets a kid 10 or 11 use the Internet without supervision?

 

[Perknose]

I have to disagree, Perky. This young girl is displaying behavior typical of children who have been sexually abused. Inappropriate dress, adult language, sexual response to non-sexual situations, attention-getting behavior.

On top of that, that kid went from taunting the trolls with aplomb to tormented crying. I would bet you that the back of dad's hand or worse was involved in that transformation.

There are a lot of people in the system who provide good short-term and long-term living situations with caseworker supervision. They have to go through training, selection, home visits, and regular contact with CWs. It takes sometimes up to a year to be approved as a foster family. Do regular parental situations have that level of accountability? No!

It's better for kids to be with their parents, yes, but sometimes it's just not. CPS should definitely be involved in investigating this situation, perhaps resulting in simple parenting classes, perhaps in taking away the child. That decision is up to the investigator with lots more data than we have available.

Uhhhh, and I with you, AreaCody. First off, I think you are wildly and emotionally confusing accelerated "internetiis" as one poster called it, with the behavior markers for sexual abuse.

I beleive you to be over-diagnosing, else there is an entire cohort of internet enabled tweens whose "inappropriate dress, adult language, sexual response to non-sexual situations, attention-getting behavior" would have you calling the lot of them ALL sexually abused.

Welcome to a not insignificant slice of 21st Century America, very few of have been actually sexually abused.

Secondly, I know several life long, down in the trenches professionals from four separate counties here in SE PA, from the uber urban Philadelphia County to the rich & rural Chester County (not to be at all confused with the blighted city of Chester, which is in Delaware County.)

Male, female, and all over the map in personal temperament, EACH AND EVERY ONE has said with equal fervor that just about the very worst thing that can happen to any child is to go into the system.

They have said that, even in cases of actual hard-assed physical abuse, they have been tremendously reluctant to separate a child from their mother (usually the mother that is left parenting alone in the worst of situations, you know.)

They say, bad as it is and almost as fucked up as they can be, that NO ONE cares for a child more than their biological parent.

I don't expect you or anyone else to believe the first hand reports of these varied, veteran workers, but there it is.

Even my old g/f (we're still friends) out in rural Chester County talks bemusedly about the unintentional MIND FUCK of placing urban black kids in otherwise "stable" and "clean" and "supervised" Amish country foster homes.

Hey, I'm just telling you what has been told to me, over and over and over again.

 

[TridenT]

Lol @ the people thinking it's sexual abuse.

Kid wants to get laid and dresses in such a manor that is sexual appealing and possibly in style, what's new? It's not unusual even in the slightest. Kids want to look like adults when they start getting past the TMNT/Power-Rangers/Pokemon t-shirt only stage. Adults dress in such a manor that is possibly in style and gets the juices flowin' for the other sex.

Big-whoop.

Oh, and plenty of kids go on webcams. Tons of attention whoring cam girls on every cam website imaginable. Plenttyyy of non-sexually-abused girls, who are mostly underage >_<, on there just wanting attention from the opposite sex. 😛

So, yeah... what's the big deal again?

Oh and being on the internet at age 10 or 11 without adult supervision. I don't really see the problem if your kid grows up on the internet(lovely experience :awe🙂, but just try to inform the kids of never telling the internet even your real first name or anything that could link you back to the real you. It's better to create an online persona, and nothing more than a persona... <--- Ideal situation, to be a fake person, but of course... that's difficult if you try to interact with people you know in real life too. Then what do you do unless they're in on it? :/

 

[0roo0roo]

http://gawker.com/5589721/the-art-of-trolling-inside-a-4chan-smear-campaign

 

[AreaCode707]

Uhhhh, and I with you, AreaCody. First off, I think you are wildly and emotionally confusing accelerated "internetiis" as one poster called it, with the behavior markers for sexual abuse.

I beleive you to be over-diagnosing, else there is an entire cohort of internet enabled tweens whose "inappropriate dress, adult language, sexual response to non-sexual situations, attention-getting behavior" would have you calling the lot of them ALL sexually abused.

Agreed, but clearly this girl is on a different level than the average tween attention whore, and she's attracting an unusual degree of attention as such.

http://www.childwelfare.gov/pubs/factsheets/signs.cfm

Demonstrates bizarre, sophisticated, or unusual sexual knowledge or behavior

Obviously we don't have enough info to diagnose online, but she's got a significant warning sign that, in this case, strikes me as enough of a cause for further investigation by someone trained.

Welcome to a not insignificant slice of 21st Century America, very few of have been actually sexually abused.

Very few is a relative term obviously, and I know that we can agree ANY sexually abused kids are too many. There are childcare providers and educators and other people who are legally required to report even suspected abuse. I'm in one of those positions by virtue of my volunteer work with teens.

http://www.prevent-abuse-now.com/stats.htm#Substantiated

Child Abuse & Child Sexual Abuse ~ Substantiated

Composition of substantiated child abuse in 2000:
879,000 children were victims of child maltreatment.
Neglect ~ 63%
Physical ~ 19%
Sexual ~ 10%
Psychological ~ 8%

Victimization rates declined as age increased.
Rate of victimization per 1,000 children of the same age group:
Birth to 3 years old = 15.7 victims per 1,000.
Ages 16 and 17 = 5.7 victims per 1,000.

Except for victims of sexual abuse, rates
were similar for male and female victimization:
11.2 and 12.8 per 1,000 children respectively.
Rate of sexual abuse by gender:
1.7 victims per 1,000 female children
0.4 victims per 1,000 male children.

Rate of child abuse by race:
White = 51%
African American = 25%
Hispanic = 15%
American Indian/Alaska Natives = 2%
Asian/Pacific Islanders = 1%

The comparative annual rate of child victims:
decreased steadily from 15.3 victims per 1,000 children in 1993
to 11.8 victims per 1,000 children in 1999;
then increased to 12.2 per 1,000 children in 2000.
Whether this is a trend cannot be determined until additional data are collected.

Source: US Dept of Health and Human Services,
Administration for Children & Families,
Child Welfare Information Gateway (formerly Nat'l Clearinghouse on Child Abuse & Neglect), 2000.

Secondly, I know several life long, down in the trenches professionals from four separate counties here in SE PA, from the uber urban Philadelphia County to the rich & rural Chester County (not to be at all confused with the blighted city of Chester, which is in Delaware County.)

Male, female, and all over the map in personal temperament, EACH AND EVERY ONE has said with equal fervor that just about the very worst thing that can happen to any child is to go into the system.

They have said that, even in cases of actual hard-assed physical abuse, they have been tremendously reluctant to separate a child from their mother (usually the mother that is left parenting alone in the worst of situations, you know.)

They say, bad as it is and almost as fucked up as they can be, that NO ONE cares for a child more than their biological parent.

I don't expect you or anyone else to believe the first hand reports of these varied, veteran workers, but there it is.

I do believe it, but you'll note that those professionals, even when they hold those opinions, have still found instances where they've chosen to separate the child from the parent. When kids are removed the ultimate goal is almost ALWAYS re-unification after the parent has undergone training, counseling and demonstrated their ability to properly care for their kids.

It may be true that most often no one cares for a child more than their biological parent but sometimes more than caring is needed. For a kid who is physically abused by a parent who cares greatly but has rage issues, being in a safe place is more important. For a kid whose parent loves them but spends the food money on drugs, not going to bed hungry is more important. For a kid whose mother loves them but turns a blind eye to the father molesting them, being in a place where their sexuality is protected is more important.

Yes, kids who have shitty parents and are taken away from them suffer from that experience. There is NO question that there is lifelong emotional damage from that experience. Unfortunately sometimes it is the lesser of two evils.

And there are a lot of good foster parents out there, ones that want to see the bio family succeed and get their kids back, ones that want to give the kids coping skills and do well in life, ones that fully intend their placements to be temporary while the bios get back on their feet. Some of them post here if you want to read additional perspectives.
http://forums.adoption.com

Even my old g/f (we're still friends) out in rural Chester County talks bemusedly about the unintentional MIND FUCK of placing urban black kids in otherwise "stable" and "clean" and "supervised" Amish country foster homes.

Hey, I'm just telling you what has been told to me, over and over and over again.

Agreed entirely on the last part.

 

[CPA]

The best Tee so far

 

[HybridSquirrel]

4chan kids attacked a child, her parents got pissed.

i heard it was ebaums.

 

[BoberFett]

OK Mr. heavy, we get the "we are 4chan's" theme but keep in mind that even in the darkest recesses of internets an 11 year old is an 11 year old, but I blame the parents who obliviously are clueless as to all things online. The re-mix is friggin hilarious though..

Sorry, but children don't post semi-nude pictures of themselves online, so she's not just "an 11 year old." Either her parents need to reign her in, or the world at large is going to do it for them. She's lucky that it was a mostly harmless psychological attack. She could be dead in an alley somewhere.

 

[BUTCH1]

Sorry, but children don't post semi-nude pictures of themselves online, so she's not just "an 11 year old." Either her parents need to reign her in, or the world at large is going to do it for them. She's lucky that it was a mostly harmless psychological attack. She could be dead in an alley somewhere.

So because of the pic she posted she is no longer a kid and now an adult?. I can't buy that but I agree her parents a sorry excuses and you right also that she could easily wind up in a dumpster enticing pedo's like that..

 

[grrl]

This young girl is displaying behavior typical of children who have been sexually abused. Inappropriate dress, adult language, sexual response to non-sexual situations, attention-getting behavior.

You can't be for real. With the exception of the bolded part, you just described the vast majority of teenagers. I never knew sexual abuse was so rampant.

On top of that, that kid went from taunting the trolls with aplomb to tormented crying. I would bet you that the back of dad's hand or worse was involved in that transformation.

404. Aplomb not found.

404. Evidence of the dimwitted father's hand not found.

 

[shortylickens]

So because of the pic she posted she is no longer a kid and now an adult?. I can't buy that but I agree her parents a sorry excuses and you right also that she could easily wind up in a dumpster enticing pedo's like that..

When you start playing in the grown up world, you have to deal with grown up issues.
Psychos, bullies, assholes, and a handful of moral motherfuckers all become your audience, and thats 100% your fault. Regardless of age.
Did anybody actually watch one of her videos? She was mouthing off like an honor student of the bitch arts. Granted, an 11 year old shouldnt even be able to do that, but she was able. She is now participating in the adult world. And she is totally unequipped to do so. Given that her father seems to have no inclination to straighten her out (and I dont think he'd do a good job if he tried) I am sure that girl is going to have a long, miserable life ahead of her.

When I have kids they are going to spend one month of every summer vacation working on a farm, and learn a little bit about real life & how it differs from a virtual one.