How do you find a MD that's open to complementary and alternative medicine?

Riprorin

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My gowing sense is that most doctors are pill-pushers who treat symptoms rather than going after root causes.

I'm really uncomfortable with the whole medical establishment.

How do you go about finding a good doctor who's up on alternative treatments, ie is not sold out to the drug companies?
 

glen

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Isn't alternative medicine anything not peer reviewed or objectively tested?
 

Heisenberg

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Originally posted by: glen
Isn't alternative medicine anything not peer reviewed or objectively tested?
Pretty much. Most of it is questionable at most. Any competent MD should be willing to discuss other methods of valid treatments.
 

jhu

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Isn't alternative medicine anything not peer reviewed or objectively tested?

in a nutshell, yes. although a couple alternative therapies have been objectively studied such as acupuncture
 

glen

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Originally posted by: Riprorin
If you don't have anything constructive to add in regard to my question, why bother?

Letting you know that most of it has not been peer reviewed seems pretty constructive to me.
 

Riprorin

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Originally posted by: glen
Originally posted by: Riprorin
If you don't have anything constructive to add in regard to my question, why bother?

Letting you know that most of it has not been peer reviewed seems pretty constructive to me.

Wasn't thalidomide peer reviewed and obectively tested?



 

Riprorin

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Originally posted by: godmare
Originally posted by: Riprorin
If you don't have anything constructive to add in regard to my question, why bother?
That was objective, asshole.

Get up on the wrong side of the bed today?

I didn't say it wasn't objective, just not constructive because it has nothing to do with my question.

Can you please refrain from name calling?
 

PlatinumGold

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Originally posted by: godmare
Originally posted by: Riprorin
If you don't have anything constructive to add in regard to my question, why bother?
That was objective, asshole.

he said CONSTRUCTIVE not OBJECTIVE.

not always the same thing. Objectivity is not all it's cracked up to be. heisenberg principle and all
 

godmare

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Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: godmare
Originally posted by: Riprorin
If you don't have anything constructive to add in regard to my question, why bother?
That was objective, asshole.

Get up on the wrong side of the bed today?

I didn't say it wasn't objective, just no't constructive because it has nothing to do with my question.

Can you please refrain from name calling?
Fine, you're not any bad names.
As was mentioned by PlatinumGold, DO's are more open minded to alternative medicine; they're more open-minded period. Sometimes that's a good thing and sometimes it's a bad thing; which is to say you're not exactly provided with the 'consumer protection' of an MD, but are granted more options in return.
 

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Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
Originally posted by: godmare
Originally posted by: Riprorin
If you don't have anything constructive to add in regard to my question, why bother?
That was objective, asshole.

he said CONSTRUCTIVE not OBJECTIVE.

not always the same thing. Objectivity is not all it's cracked up to be. heisenberg principle and all

Oh, so true. I meant constructive- I thought I had typed that in fact... my error.
 

PlatinumGold

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Originally posted by: Heisenberg
Originally posted by: godmare
Look for a DO instead of an MD
Only if you want to be treated by someone who wasn't smart enough to become a real doctor.

how stupid is that.

many MD's like to say the same thing about Dentists, ironic since most dentist i know today make a LOT more money than MD's.

This hierarchy that medical students set up amongst themselves is just plain stupid.
 

Riprorin

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Pharmaceuticals have their place, it's just that I'd like to be made aware of alternative treatments, ie. vitamins and supplements, too.

My impression is that most MDs aren't particularly knowledgeable or open minded when it comes to alternatives to drugs.
 

jhu

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As was mentioned by PlatinumGold, DO's are more open minded to alternative medicine; they're more open-minded period. Sometimes that's a good thing and sometimes it's a bad thing; which is to say you're not exactly provided with the 'consumer protection' of an MD, but are granted more options in return.

uhm dos are as well trained as their md counterparts. they still have to go through the same residency programs that we (future) mds do.
 

jhu

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My impression is that most MDs aren't particularly knowledgeable or open minded when it comes to alternatives to drugs.

the reason is because there aren't a lot of double-blind placebo studies done on them.
 

Heisenberg

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Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
Originally posted by: Heisenberg
Originally posted by: godmare
Look for a DO instead of an MD
Only if you want to be treated by someone who wasn't smart enough to become a real doctor.

how stupid is that.

many MD's like to say the same thing about Dentists, ironic since most dentist i know today make a LOT more money than MD's.

This hierarchy that medical students set up amongst themselves is just plain stupid.
I'm not a med student. And it is often easier to get in to DO school than it is MD.
 

PlatinumGold

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Originally posted by: Heisenberg
Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
Originally posted by: Heisenberg
Originally posted by: godmare
Look for a DO instead of an MD
Only if you want to be treated by someone who wasn't smart enough to become a real doctor.

how stupid is that.

many MD's like to say the same thing about Dentists, ironic since most dentist i know today make a LOT more money than MD's.

This hierarchy that medical students set up amongst themselves is just plain stupid.
I'm not a med student. And it is often easier to get in to DO school than it is MD.

It is ALWAYS easier to get into dent school than med school. that does NOT mean that only people that couldnt' get to med school went to dent school. that kind of statement just shows ignorance.
 

Heisenberg

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Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
It is ALWAYS easier to get into dent school than med school. that does NOT mean that only people that couldnt' get to med school went to dent school. that kind of statement just shows ignorance.
Are you talking about dentists or DO's?
 

PlatinumGold

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Originally posted by: Heisenberg
Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
It is ALWAYS easier to get into dent school than med school. that does NOT mean that only people that couldnt' get to med school went to dent school. that kind of statement just shows ignorance.
Are you talking about dentists or DO's?

both, the assumption that because one is easier to get in necessarily means that they took the course just because they couldnt' get into med school ignore peoples decision making.

I know a lot of DO's that chose to go DO route vs MD route because they PREFERRED it not because they couldn't get into med school.