How do you carry a gun while jogging?

[jlee]

That joke is so page 2.

Page 2 isn't here yet.

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[highland145]

I live in a very nice area which is inside of the best part of Atlanta, and at least once a week someone is at minimum robbed and beaten a bit within ~10 miles of here. Like many nice areas, we have not so nice neighborhoods on one side and get thugs who walk through on their way to get who knows what, since the train station is over on that side.

Once or twice a month someone taken at gun/knife point at atms and forced to empty them, or forced to drive home to give up valuables - hopefully they're let go after that, but sometimes only the man is let out and they borrow the woman for a few days before hopefully releasing alive.

A couple times a year we have someone seriously brutally and needlessy murdered. The last one was a young woman on a walking trail ~5 miles outside of the city. A couple of kids drug her in the woods and raped her over a few hours before killing her. She fought back so hard (complete with pepper spray) that one of the kids had to be hospitalized due to his cheek getting pulled off his face.



You are absolutely naive if you think these things cannot happen to you. Sure the chances are low, particularly if you're male and don't have a woman with you, and stick to known 'safe' areas. FYI, often times even if you're paying attention you're in 'the hood' and you don't even know it.


FYI, the most brutal of crimes are generally not reported by your local newspapers or media unless the family speaks out.





Don't be a victim. Part of what makes these crimes so common nowadays is few are willing to protect themselves or fight back.

Also FYI, I grew up in the hood.. the real hood... and have seen numerous disgusting and terrible situations as I was growing up. It does happen, and there are tons of senseless crimes, murders, rapes, with no indication it was going to happen or forewarning.

QFT.

I searched and couldn't find the story but there was an Atlanta jogger, a couple of years ago, that was snatched off a trail, raped and killed. They caught the guy because he sought treatment for the bite she put on his penis.

 

[Squisher]

lol if this stuff happens regularly you are not in a "nice area".

I cannot recall the last time there was an incident here where someone was randomly mugged or murdered or any random act of violence done on a random person. There is violence here to some extent but it's usually "inside". Ex: a few months ago there was a huge school fight between two high schools next to each other and people were sent to the hospital. These people were not going around mugging random people on the street, they were fighting each other. The police got there and it was the end of that.

And assuming a murderer also has a gun, what good with it do if I also have one when a bullet is on a direct path to my head from behind the bushes? When it comes to a gun fight, the person that shoots first is usually the winner. You can have the biggest gun in the world, if someone shoots you in the head you wont be taking it out to shoot the person back.

But yeah if the town is that bad, cover up your windows with checker steel plate, and buy a treadmill.

Well, how self righteous of you looking down your nose to us lesser individuals that can't live among the polar bears and squirrels in your nice area of Canada. Unfortunately many living here in the nicer areas of the U.S., which in no way can compare to the utopia of Canada, still can become victims of random acts of violence.

As for your straw man argument of someone gunning you down from the bushes, you obviously don't understand how common violent confrontations happen.

 

[mikeymikec]

Are you a 100lb woman? Who would mug a reasonably fit man in broad daylight on a jogging trail? Who carries anything worth stealing when they jog?

A gun?

 

[Mr. Pedantic]

because bad shit only happens in bad areas, right?

Nice areas are where the rich people live, they have all the good stuff to steal.

And of course, everyone knows that the best possible way to rob a rich man's house is to attack them while they're running around outside carrying at most a drink bottle, a wallet, and a phone. Amirite?

 

[SpatiallyAware]

And of course, everyone knows that the best possible way to rob a rich man's house is to attack them while they're running around outside carrying at most a drink bottle, a wallet, and a phone. Amirite?

You have his debit card, address of his family, keys to his house, and keys to his nice fancy car.. I'd say that's absolute best case scenario.

Worst case is two guys see how much they can get from you, your house, hope no one you care about is home over a 3-4 hour period. This stuff is more common than you think and rarely talked about, if you keep up with very local news they will report it for one day max..

What would you do with a gun to your head, couple of thugs with the address of your family on your driver's license?

 

[QueBert]

Move out of the shit neighborhood you live in.

I live in a neighborhood that 90% of this people on this site probably would be timid to drive thru during the day. I jog at night time, without carrying my gun. I've never so much as has a single problem, not living scared's a beautiful thing imho.

 

[Turin39789]

Canada is much more homogenous than the US. I see this with a lot of European posters as well. They simply don't understand the issues diversity creates. Most places in the US have ethnic minorities living on top of ethnic minorities living next to sub-cultures of the majority that influence the sub-cultures of the ethnic minority that cause a reaction from the majority that produces minority-majority violence. And other such situations. Simply put: with so many major differences between people of all classes it's bound to cause a higher rate of violence.

Would the Rodney King Riots have happened in Canada? Probably not. And the situation SpatiallyAware described (good neighborhoods still having the occasional brutal crime) is relatively common here in the US. I grew up in a nice area and it was normal, if tragic to hear about at least one murder a year within 10 miles of my house. This was in an area where the average income/household is $90k. If you see such a low crime rate as a reason to bar your windows and not go outside, America at large probably looks like a war zone to you. As he said, there are "nice areas" but they are usually immediately adjacent to not-so-nice areas, and spill-over happens. Detroit is a prime example of this. The only communities that have effectively zero crime are either heavily isolated or gated.

LOL @ the issues diversity creates

 

[irishScott]

LOL @ the issues diversity creates

Take 2 communities of any socioeconomic level.

1 is 90% the same culture, same values, same traditions, etc. The other is split evenly between 6 widely varying cultures, with widely varying values, traditions etc. Which is going to have more conflict?

 

[Imp]

Take 2 communities of any socioeconomic level.

1 is 90% the same culture, same values, same traditions, etc. The other is split evenly between 6 widely varying cultures, with widely varying values, traditions etc. Which is going to have more conflict?

...The one with the less tolerant, open-minded, and empathetic people.

 

[PatrickBateman]

how do you guys carry while sky diving? last time my piece flew off in mid-air once I pulled my chute cord.

You're lying, you made Johnny Utah drop it because you refused to pull the cord and you were taking him to the edge.

How do you carry your piece while surfing the 50 year storm?

 

[Dr. Zaus]

Please keep the racist accusation crap toned down unless it is a CLEAR indication of racism. This isn't a term to throw around lightly, you need to have some proof to back it up.

Attributing an illegal activity to half of your neighbors of a particular race is racist.

You arguing about it is SaDiZTiKStyLeZ winning at trolling :thumbsup: gratz.

is 90% the same culture, same values, same traditions, etc. The other is split evenly between 6 widely varying cultures, with widely varying values, traditions etc. Which is going to have more conflict?

The one with less hope.

 

[dust]

What kind of an idiot is mugging people when they're jogging. Are you guys used to carry huge amounts of money while sprinting? Is it like they expect you to?!:biggrin:

 

[Capt Caveman]

Take 2 communities of any socioeconomic level.

1 is 90% the same culture, same values, same traditions, etc. The other is split evenly between 6 widely varying cultures, with widely varying values, traditions etc. Which is going to have more conflict?

If you use the ghetto as an example, doesn't matter what the culture, you're still going to get plenty of conflict.

Take a look at what's going on in the Arab nations today.

 

[Capt Caveman]

And of course, everyone knows that the best possible way to rob a rich man's house is to attack them while they're running around outside carrying at most a drink bottle, a wallet, and a phone. Amirite?

Who the hell goes running with their wallet?

I run almost daily. I live in the city. A lot of the time it's at night. Never had an issue.

Actually, thinking back. When I used to work in SF, I used to get off the BART in Oakland to run home to Berkeley. I had a backpack on with all of my stuff. I still never had an issue. If I saw a bunch of guys hanging out, I just ran in the street. Again, never had an issue.

And I don't own a gun, oh noes!

:biggrin: at this thread.

 

[Capt Caveman]

You have his debit card, address of his family, keys to his house, and keys to his nice fancy car.. I'd say that's absolute best case scenario.

Worst case is two guys see how much they can get from you, your house, hope no one you care about is home over a 3-4 hour period. This stuff is more common than you think and rarely talked about, if you keep up with very local news they will report it for one day max..

What would you do with a gun to your head, couple of thugs with the address of your family on your driver's license?

Link of someone running with their wallet or whatever and he/she got mugged then robbers went and robbed their house?

Best case scenario, is they just beat you up b/c you weren't stupid enough to carry anything of value.

And if you have to leave the house with keys? How about just taking a single key to the house and then hide it somewhere outside of your house before you go running?

 

[Capt Caveman]

Attributing an illegal activity to half of your neighbors of a particular race is racist.

You arguing about it is SaDiZTiKStyLeZ winning at trolling :thumbsup: gratz.

The one with less hope.

You should go read the OPs posts in the Trayvon Martin thread in P&N. Plenty of proof of the OP's racism.

 

[SpatiallyAware]

You should go read the OPs posts in the Trayvon Martin thread in P&N. Plenty of proof of the OP's racism.

Do not drag the TM GZ crap in here. Go make your own 'everybody who doesn't have the same opinion as myself is a racist' thread where maybe you could get to get to the bottom of why you intentionally look for racism everywhere you go.

 

[SpatiallyAware]

Link of someone running with their wallet or whatever and he/she got mugged then robbers went and robbed their house?

Best case scenario, is they just beat you up b/c you weren't stupid enough to carry anything of value.

And if you have to leave the house with keys? How about just taking a single key to the house and then hide it somewhere outside of your house before you go running?

If your wife was raped by a couple of thugs would you want her name and story all over the papers?


The police departments don't publicly post up when these things happen. It's up to the family whether or not the media runs a story, which is (unfortunately, imo) rarely the case.


I used to keep up with local news sites that would report stuff similar to this happening in my (albeit large) city at least 3-4 times a year.

 

[PhoKingGuy]

Don't live in the hood and shit like this doesn't happen? Hell I've been running outside since I was like 14 and I don't get anything but waves and smiles whenever I run around.

 

[PhoKingGuy]

I live in a neighborhood that 90% of this people on this site probably would be timid to drive thru during the day. I jog at night time, without carrying my gun. I've never so much as has a single problem, not living scared's a beautiful thing imho.

QFT, You're in LB right?

Latinos usually don't bother you unless you give them a reason to though. I've been to the ghetto parts of Santa Ana for tacos at like 1 AM and never have had a problem.

 

[SpatiallyAware]

Who the hell goes running with their wallet?

I run almost daily. I live in the city. A lot of the time it's at night. Never had an issue.

Actually, thinking back. When I used to work in SF, I used to get off the BART in Oakland to run home to Berkeley. I had a backpack on with all of my stuff. I still never had an issue. If I saw a bunch of guys hanging out, I just ran in the street. Again, never had an issue.

And I don't own a gun, oh noes!

:biggrin: at this thread.

LOL at oakland. You guys have some latino gang problems, and gang on gang violence, but yeah I also wouldn't have any issue jogging down broadway among the businesspeople crowd at 7pm either.


Watch the video below, tell me this is the first time this robbing crew has done this:

http://rmirror.net/r/videos/comments/rsc0g/this_makes_my_blood_boil/

 

[PhoKingGuy]

LOL at oakland. You guys have some latino gang problems, and gang on gang violence, but yeah I also wouldn't have any issue jogging down broadway among the businesspeople crowd either at 7pm either.


Watch the video below, tell me this is the first time this robbing crew has done this:

http://rmirror.net/r/videos/comments/rsc0g/this_makes_my_blood_boil/

That's why I don't live in the hood.

Growing up with a population that was mostly middle class asian immigrants and the rest being upper middle class white people was the best thing ever to happen to me.

 

[Modelworks]

In the holster in plain sight. Often just knowing you are armed will make any possible attacker walk away.

 

[SpatiallyAware]

That's why I don't live in the hood.

Growing up with a population that was mostly middle class asian immigrants and the rest being upper middle class white people was the best thing ever to happen to me.

As has been stated numerous times already, most nice areas have traffic from the not-so-great places. Some people can't afford to not live in the hood.