How do you back up blu-Ray movies & have it end up being ~2gb @1080p??

Noo

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I want to back up my blu rays movies with it end up being around 2gb while looking great at the same time. Like those "iffy" guys releasing movies putting out 1080p videos at around 2gb

Every guide I look at shows output being at least 10 gb. Anything lower and it started to look crappy. How do those iffy guys do it?
 

Kneedragger

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If you take that file and open it with mediainfo you can see what encoding setting were used then go from there.
 

smitbret

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They look better than SD, but I don't think I would put them up against a good 720p encode at a proper bitrate.

They also save space by using a 2-channal .aac audio track that's only 128kbps
 

AnitaPeterson

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YIFY? I am sorry, but those are really low standards.
Their releases are blockfests every time there's a lot of action on the screen, the sound is really poor (at 128kbps, or even 96!)... ugh!
If you like quality, there's simply no way of having 1080p Blu-Ray transcoded at less than 4 GB (for a two-hour film). Only 1080p WEB-DL files are smaller than that, but they come from a different source.

There's a good reason why YIFY rips are banned from most serious sharing sites...
 
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Rio Rebel

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To get your "acceptable" quality rips:
1. Get Handbrake
2. Set quality to 16 or so.
3. Strap in and enjoy your 1980's quality video.

Or get a bigger hard drive, rip them at full quality, and enjoy a blu ray the way it was intended. You can still save quite a bit of space in most cases, ripping the movie only. But there is no substitute - otherwise, just get a dvd and be happy.
 

poofyhairguy

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Geez don't do 1080p at 2GB. Go down to 720p if you are going to be Scrooge McBits.

Oh and the answer OP is they do slow multi-pass encodes to a hard target of file size. This process GUTS the action out of fast paced scenes and should only be done with animation or slower movies like dramas.
 

Noo

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YIFY? I am sorry, but those are really low standards.
Their releases are blockfests every time there's a lot of action on the screen, the sound is really poor (at 128kbps, or even 96!)... ugh!
If you like quality, there's simply no way of having 1080p Blu-Ray transcoded at less than 4 GB (for a two-hour film). Only 1080p WEB-DL files are smaller than that, but they come from a different source.

There's a good reason why YIFY rips are banned from most serious sharing sites...

Well ignorance is bliss, they looks great to me and I would like to rip my movies at that quality and ah the same time not have ridiculously large video files. 2gb and looking great like that is perfect imo
 

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I think their point was that you will end up having better quality using 720P at a higher bitrate than 1080P at a super low bitrate, and I agree. Whatever quality you gain from moving to 1080 from 720, you lose even more with all of the compression artifacts.

Since you're ripping the movies yourself, why not just give a try both ways? I think you'll be surprised at just how good a well ripped 720 movie looks. If i really want the absolute best quality, I just ... watch the Bluray.
 

MongGrel

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If they aren't up in the 12-16 range with DTS they seem kinda unwatchable to me, at 1080P.

But, he he.

*ducks*

ARRRRRRRRRR.
 
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poofyhairguy

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I think their point was that you will end up having better quality using 720P at a higher bitrate than 1080P at a super low bitrate, and I agree. Whatever quality you gain from moving to 1080 from 720, you lose even more with all of the compression artifacts.

Since you're ripping the movies yourself, why not just give a try both ways? I think you'll be surprised at just how good a well ripped 720 movie looks.

Exactly! Only thing that won't look bad at 2GB for 1080p is animated movies.
 

gorobei

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going to 720 and taking down the audio to 2.0 will save most of the space while keeping the bitrate. as long as your player or tv have a decent scaler the loss in resolution is tolerable, especially if you are happy with YIFY.
 

Rio Rebel

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Oops/ Freudian slip.

Forget my post, I'm the wrong person to ask about how to destroy - er, "shrink" - high quality video files into unwatchable - er, "acceptable" - rips. :)
 

smitbret

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Oops/ Freudian slip.

Forget my post, I'm the wrong person to ask about how to destroy - er, "shrink" - high quality video files into unwatchable - er, "acceptable" - rips. :)

Some of us can't afford a 103" television. :)
 

Rio Rebel

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It's 110" screen in the theater room. But I do the same for smaller screens in the house. :)

I realize this is is worth it to some people, but like some others have said above, ripping a blu-ray down to 2gb is probably not the best use of your time.
 

smitbret

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It's 110" screen in the theater room. But I do the same for smaller screens in the house. :)

I realize this is is worth it to some people, but like some others have said above, ripping a blu-ray down to 2gb is probably not the best use of your time.

Nice......

But yeah, 1080p @ 2GB might as well just be an upscaled DVD.
 

Lordhumungus

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I'd highly recommend the program DVDFab as it will let you encode/rip to just about anything so it will give you lots of options to experiment with. I do agree with everyone else that shooting for 1080p @ 2GB is a bit unreasonable, but using DVDFab with MP4 I've been able to get excellent quality encodes with 5.1 surround at around 4-6GB.

Oh and for those wondering why I don't use Handbrake since it is X264, I have all my blu-rays ripped to ISOs on my server and DVDFab allows me to que up many encodes at a time straight from the ISO.
 

poofyhairguy

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Now that I think about it, it may be possible with x265. But then you only get software playback and few devices will accept it.
 

Noo

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I find it comical that the question was how to rip the movie at the resolution that I'm happy with and want. People spent more time, effort, and energy in their responses trying to convince me why I should NOT try to do something that I'm perfectly happy with.
 

smitbret

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I find it comical that the question was how to rip the movie at the resolution that I'm happy with and want. People spent more time, effort, and energy in their responses trying to convince me why I should NOT try to do something that I'm perfectly happy with.

That's because your question is something akin to "What's the best way to rob a convenience store?". We're just trying to talk you out of making the worst decision of your life.
 

poofyhairguy

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That's because your question is something akin to "What's the best way to rob a convenience store?". We're just trying to talk you out of making the worst decision of your life.

I don't know if it is that serious. Worst decision of one's life?

Sure compression artifacts in action scenes suck, but OP might have some 60hz 32in LCD with a 8 foot viewing distance (since HT quality is obviously not a priority). At that point you can't tell the difference between a DVD, a gutted Blu Ray or a Youtube video so why not save storage space? We have been assuming a lot.



It is more like the OP said: "Hey guys, I recently got my hands on a $50 perfectly aged steak (Blu Ray). How do I grind it up to make hamburgers?"

And we all said: "Why don't you just trim off the fat and cook the steak?"
 
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piasabird

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Might also have something to do with how modern TV's try to upscale video and add in missing frames. Video standard was around 30 frames a second for non-HD. I know that video on the Internet is encoded a little differently. Whenever there are close-ups you might see the things closer are in focus perfectly and in the background there is a little less quality. It is some kind of trick they use when they encode films for streaming.