Originally posted by: BatmanNate
Originally posted by: shady06
Originally posted by: BatmanNate
Doing well in school is different that doing well in the working world.
i completely agree but i think it's fair to say that one is more likely to succeed in the working world if he or she gets a good education compared to someone who is uneducated
believe me, there isnt a shortage of ambition here. all my friends tell me i'm to motivated for my own good. there may be a connection between ambition and a free ride, but not in this case
In most cases it's a mixture of education and ambition or work ethic. Bill Gates did not even attend college, IIRC. In some cases there is ambition and that is enough. But if you have education with no ambition you won't get far.
Originally posted by: BatmanNate
Originally posted by: shady06
Originally posted by: BatmanNate
Doing well in school is different that doing well in the working world.
i completely agree but i think it's fair to say that one is more likely to succeed in the working world if he or she gets a good education compared to someone who is uneducated
In most cases it's a mixture of education and ambition or work ethic. Bill Gates did not even attend college, IIRC. In some cases there is ambition and that is enough. But if you have education with no ambition you won't get far.
I think Bill Gates attended Harvard but then dropped out due to his business.
Originally posted by: coldcut
Don't you have a credit card?
its my dads card and it is only used for food/books at school
its your problem that you are stuck driving your eclipse, why should he or anyone else that don't have to work go and get a job. If parents willing to support him then why in the world would he want or need to get a job as long as the parents have the money and support him. I am currently in the same situation as him, i am 22 still in college and my parents fully support me,only difference between us is that i never had a job in my life and he did so stop being jealus because his parents are willing to pay for him and your didn't or coudn't
SithSolo1
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I just flat out tell mine(always go for mom, she's the weaker link):
"Mom I need a new heatsink and some thermal paste."
"Ok, put it on the card."
"And some shoes."
"Ok."
"And a new watch."
"What kind of watch?"
"One that works."
"Fine just pick one."
"And some clothes."
"We'll go shopping tomorrow."
"And a new knife."
"How many times to I have to tell you that I'm not going to get you a knife, go ask your father."
"Hey dad, I need a knife."
"Why?"
"Because I lost the last one."
"Then no."
"How bout a car?"
"Learn to drive."
"But....oh yeah, my reciever is broken"
"Life's a b!tch isn't it? You know I work my ass off trying to support this family and all you people do is b!tch and moan."
"What ever."
15mins later getting dropped of at my apt by my father
"You need any money?"
"No, I got $20."
"Here's $150, don't blow it all on alcohol and get yourself a girl."
"Yeah, ok....uh cya."
"Bye"
The above happens at least 3 times a month. They always say if I really, really need something just put it on the card. Weird eh?
"Mom I need a new heatsink and some thermal paste."
"Ok, put it on the card."
"And some shoes."
"Ok."
"And a new watch."
"What kind of watch?"
"One that works."
"Fine just pick one."
"And some clothes."
"We'll go shopping tomorrow."
"And a new knife."
"How many times to I have to tell you that I'm not going to get you a knife, go ask your father."
"Hey dad, I need a knife."
"Why?"
"Because I lost the last one."
"Then no."
"How bout a car?"
"Learn to drive."
"But....oh yeah, my reciever is broken"
"Life's a b!tch isn't it? You know I work my ass off trying to support this family and all you people do is b!tch and moan."
"What ever."
15mins later getting dropped of at my apt by my father
"You need any money?"
"No, I got $20."
"Here's $150, don't blow it all on alcohol and get yourself a girl."
"Yeah, ok....uh cya."
"Bye"
The above happens at least 3 times a month. They always say if I really, really need something just put it on the card. Weird eh?
AP : Listen, what's your name?
Bum : *quietly* Al.
AP : Speak up. Come on.
Bum : *louder* Al.
AP : Get a goddamn job, Al. You've got a negative attitude. That's what's stopping you. You've got to get your act together. I'll help you.
Bum : You re so kind, mister. You're kind. You're a kind man. I can tell. Please...I don know what to do. I'm so cold.
AP : It's just that...I don't know I don't have anything in common with you.
<< He opens his briefcase and pulls out a long thin knife with a serrated edge. He pushes up the sleeve of his jacket to protect it. >>
AP : Do you know what a worthless loser ,you are?
<< Repeatedly stabs the bum in the stomach >>
I hope this movie transcript helps you understand the position you are in.
-silver
Bum : *quietly* Al.
AP : Speak up. Come on.
Bum : *louder* Al.
AP : Get a goddamn job, Al. You've got a negative attitude. That's what's stopping you. You've got to get your act together. I'll help you.
Bum : You re so kind, mister. You're kind. You're a kind man. I can tell. Please...I don know what to do. I'm so cold.
AP : It's just that...I don't know I don't have anything in common with you.
<< He opens his briefcase and pulls out a long thin knife with a serrated edge. He pushes up the sleeve of his jacket to protect it. >>
AP : Do you know what a worthless loser ,you are?
<< Repeatedly stabs the bum in the stomach >>
I hope this movie transcript helps you understand the position you are in.
-silver
he is not in that position, his parents are willing to pay for all of his expensive, in return they epect him to get good grades in school, so stop postion stupid comments if you don't have anything smart to say
I'm deeply hurt. I think that scene is hilarious. Of course, I had to take some of the bad parts out because it's not 'appropriate'.
Anyways, it was just a simple analogy. He is the bum in this case. He has a negative attitude. He should try to work on that. And I will 'postion' comments be they stupid or incredibly hilarious so long as there are enough morons out there to warrant such responses.
-silver
If that is the case, good for you.
:beer:However, working is not as time consuming as you think. You will get valuable experience and lessons of its own.
I am glad I worked throughout HS and college, because the experiences made me a better person, and not to mention it looks good on my resume
i just say dad can i borrow ur cc real fast he gives it to me and i buy what i want and he dont care
AgaBoogaBoo
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Shady, has your question been answered yet or have you found an answer you like?
But I see your position because its very similar at my home. As long as I bring in the grades, respect, and some nice achievments, they're happy, but then again, I don't really ask for much. Just say it straight to them, just make sure you back it up with a reason 'why' and you should be fine.
How do I ask my parents for money? I don't, I ask them for something I need/want and then discuss money later since the things I buy aren't that expensive and I don't buy much either. I haven't actually asked for something for some time now, but if I want something.... man, I haven't ever thought about this, hehe
I don't know, I guess I just ask for it. Depending on what it is, I'll get it or not.
But I see your position because its very similar at my home. As long as I bring in the grades, respect, and some nice achievments, they're happy, but then again, I don't really ask for much. Just say it straight to them, just make sure you back it up with a reason 'why' and you should be fine.
How do I ask my parents for money? I don't, I ask them for something I need/want and then discuss money later since the things I buy aren't that expensive and I don't buy much either. I haven't actually asked for something for some time now, but if I want something.... man, I haven't ever thought about this, hehe
I don't know, I guess I just ask for it. Depending on what it is, I'll get it or not.
I've paid for everything (except school stuff, clothes, personal hygene, etc.) since I've had my job (which was @ 14 years old). I'm doing pretty good in my very competitive highschool (3.7 GPA), and I have a nice balance between school and work.
Back on topic though, I find myself feeling very guilty just asking to borrow some quick cash from my parents (Which I almost never do) if I dont have time to cash a check or something...even if I pay them back within the week.
Even if my parents offered to cover all of my expenses, I would still get a job, albeit an entry level one, just for the work experience and extra side cash.
Back on topic though, I find myself feeling very guilty just asking to borrow some quick cash from my parents (Which I almost never do) if I dont have time to cash a check or something...even if I pay them back within the week.
Even if my parents offered to cover all of my expenses, I would still get a job, albeit an entry level one, just for the work experience and extra side cash.
Some parents prefer their kids to remain focus of their goal (or their parent's ultimate goal) at hand, to come out of school successful, and not waste time and effort on other things trivial, such as working part or full time minimum wage. In their parent's mind, school is #1. They realize time is important and not everyone has the opportunity to go to school whenever they like. Once their reach a certain age or time in life, school can become real tough. They prolly don't want their path to go down a path they themselves went through.
I went to school part time and worked part time to cover for my own tuition. Got a $12k loan to cover for myself, and helping with the family bills a little. Giving as much as I can, even if I'm stretching my own budget. Ends got to meet, no if, and, or buts, about it. Money doesn't come easy for us. Quite honestly, if situation doesn't turn for the better in the next 4yrs, our family will be bankrupt. Going to be taking on a part and full time job to help make ends meet. I know how hard my parents work, and I feel guilt inside for having them work so hard at age 50 and 55, and myself 24, but can't really help offload their burden.
And no, I don't think I would send my parents to senior citizens home when they grow old either. That's not what you do to parents when they spent their life raising and taking care of you. I mean, what the hell are children for, if you can't depend on them in the latter parts of your life?
<-- chinese
I went to school part time and worked part time to cover for my own tuition. Got a $12k loan to cover for myself, and helping with the family bills a little. Giving as much as I can, even if I'm stretching my own budget. Ends got to meet, no if, and, or buts, about it. Money doesn't come easy for us. Quite honestly, if situation doesn't turn for the better in the next 4yrs, our family will be bankrupt. Going to be taking on a part and full time job to help make ends meet. I know how hard my parents work, and I feel guilt inside for having them work so hard at age 50 and 55, and myself 24, but can't really help offload their burden.
And no, I don't think I would send my parents to senior citizens home when they grow old either. That's not what you do to parents when they spent their life raising and taking care of you. I mean, what the hell are children for, if you can't depend on them in the latter parts of your life?
<-- chinese
These are always the best threads, because the responses show just how different families are. My parents NEVER wanted me to work in highschool and wouldn't let me or my brother get a job even when we wanted one - they wanted us to focus on schoolwork and being a kid. In college, I worked because I wanted to, and even then my parents made sure to tell me that I didn't have to, and that I shouldn't feel like I had to. My brother and I are both finishing law school and in a year will be making a over $125k each. Did they screw up? Did we some how miss out on a valuable educational experience that was vital to success? I don't think so. Did they have to sacrifice for us? Sure, but they did so willingly as they were brought up with they idea of it being their duty. And guess what, my brother and I have so many wonderful things in store for them, just as they knew we would. It's not repayment, however, but a reciprocation of love. ..and that's where some of you seem to miss the boat, viewing this whole child rearing experience as a transactional, contractual one.
It's important to note that I am Indian. I've noticed that the greatest differences between caucasian/black and eastern families exist with respect to interfamilial relationship and responsbility. Easterners view the family as a unit for a much longer period than do Western families. Most, but not all, of my caucasian friends had to essentially "fend" for themselves once the reach a certain age - some 18, some 22. Not me. My parents would gladly have me live with them for the rest of my life, but recognize that my own life entails leaving the roost - its with great sadness, and not a "good riddance" that they've watched me become my own person.
It's important to note that I am Indian. I've noticed that the greatest differences between caucasian/black and eastern families exist with respect to interfamilial relationship and responsbility. Easterners view the family as a unit for a much longer period than do Western families. Most, but not all, of my caucasian friends had to essentially "fend" for themselves once the reach a certain age - some 18, some 22. Not me. My parents would gladly have me live with them for the rest of my life, but recognize that my own life entails leaving the roost - its with great sadness, and not a "good riddance" that they've watched me become my own person.
"can i have some money for blah blah.....i can pay you back"....
always works for me...
but then
my parents never give me money...i work for what i want.....try a job...
always works for me...
but then
my parents never give me money...i work for what i want.....try a job...
BlipBlop, yes that's the phrase, reciprocation of love. Makes sense. Some parents want their kids to enjoy their childhood and times as a teen to their fullest. To do things that they themselves could only dream of. They see it as their duty and an expression of their love towards their kids. They know the importance of time and how the clock doesn't tick backwards.
I got into a heated argument when I was younger just so I can get a job while in college. Thinking back, that was foolish of me and did damage my relationship with my parent unnecessarily. They were just trying to protect me. But on the other hand, if one doesn't goes experience things himself, he'll never fall and learn.
I got into a heated argument when I was younger just so I can get a job while in college. Thinking back, that was foolish of me and did damage my relationship with my parent unnecessarily. They were just trying to protect me. But on the other hand, if one doesn't goes experience things himself, he'll never fall and learn.
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