How do people get by without a truck?

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: Ornery
Your insurance could actually DROP if your daily driver became a used (read NOT $30,000.00) pickup. It would be rugged enough to handle pot holes, speed bumps and curbs, without requiring a 4 wheel alignment every time you turn around. It would be cheap and easy to fix, since it would be RWD. And a helluva a lot safer than econoboxes that can't haul a damn toothbrush!

How do people get by without a truck?

Most people don't!

Nice link but it's 4 years old. Truck and SUV sales are on the decline. The end of the giant SUV and truck are near and I for one couldn't be happier.

 

[SSP]

A caravan is enough to move several sheets of drywall. It can take a huge tv with the seats out no prob, and haul 7 people when you need to.

 

[Jumpem]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
How often do you buy a new tv, grill, air compressor, table or anything like that? My guess is once.

Sounds to me like you're just trying to justify buying a truck. I guess if you really want one then go buy one. At least be honest though. You really don't need a truck.

I'm not trying to justify buying one at all. It was an honest question. I've never had to buy an apartments worth of stuff before, so I am now noticing how much stuff I can't get with a car.

 

[Jumpem]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
The only thing a fullsize diesel makes sense for is if you need to tow a heavy trailer. They still get horrible mileage around town unloaded, it's only when you tow a heavy trailer that they shine. A comparable gasoline engine will drop down into the single digits towing a heavy trailer but the diesel will get similar mileage as it does unloaded and all that torque is much more suited to towing.

Isn't diesel fuel slightly more expensive than gasoline anyway?

Diesel is a bit more. However, the mileage is much better than a v8 in a full-size truck. There's a reason two of my friends got rid of their gas trucks and got diesels. They get 5-10mpg better.

 

[huesmann]

Some Home Depots won't rent you a truck unless you buy some shiznit from them, bitches.

 

[shimsham]

if you own a home, chances are you can benefit greatly from owning a truck.

 

[bret]

thats when you have friends...... "friends" you know the other people you interact with.. have any of thoes?

lol

but ya if your buying stuff for your place.. 99.9% of the time the store will be able to deliver it for you.

 

[Jumpem]

Originally posted by: bret
thats when you have friends...... "friends" you know the other people you interact with.. have any of thoes?

lol

but ya if your buying stuff for your place.. 99.9% of the time the store will be able to deliver it for you.

I would always have my cousin get stuff with his F-350 if I needed something. But I am moving two hours away from everyone I know now.

 

[PingSpike]

The gas mileage is terrible and they're hard to park in tight spots. It makes no sense to buy a vehicle like that when I'll only use it twice a year.

 

[Ornery]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Nice link but it's 4 years old. Truck and SUV sales are on the decline. The end of the giant SUV and truck are near and I for one couldn't be happier.

Americans prefer trucks... - Dec 20, 08:15 AM 2004

• Sales of light trucks -- SUVs, pickups and vans--are up 3 percent this year and account for 54 percent of the market. Car sales are off 2 percent in 2004.
  
  Analysts predict that trucks will outsell cars again in 2005, when they see industry sales growing slightly, to around 16.9 million vehicles.

Trucks, SUVs, and Off-road represents the most mainstream of the show...

• Today, they represent approximately half of all new vehicles sold in the U.S.

A picture is worth a thousand words! It basically says, screw your eensie weenie-mobiles!

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: Jumpem

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
The only thing a fullsize diesel makes sense for is if you need to tow a heavy trailer. They still get horrible mileage around town unloaded, it's only when you tow a heavy trailer that they shine. A comparable gasoline engine will drop down into the single digits towing a heavy trailer but the diesel will get similar mileage as it does unloaded and all that torque is much more suited to towing.

Isn't diesel fuel slightly more expensive than gasoline anyway?

Diesel is a bit more. However, the mileage is much better than a v8 in a full-size truck. There's a reason two of my friends got rid of their gas trucks and got diesels. They get 5-10mpg better.

5-10mpg? I can see 5-10mpg better while towing but I don't think they get much better unloaded than a gasoline engine. Maybe 16-17mpg for the diesel engine vs 14-15mph max for the gas engine.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: Ornery

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Nice link but it's 4 years old. Truck and SUV sales are on the decline. The end of the giant SUV and truck are near and I for one couldn't be happier.

Americans prefer trucks... - Dec 20, 08:15 AM 2004

• Sales of light trucks -- SUVs, pickups and vans--are up 3 percent this year and account for 54 percent of the market. Car sales are off 2 percent in 2004.
  
  Analysts predict that trucks will outsell cars again in 2005, when they see industry sales growing slightly, to around 16.9 million vehicles.

Trucks, SUVs, and Off-road represents the most mainstream of the show...

• Today, they represent approximately half of all new vehicles sold in the U.S.

A picture is worth a thousand words! It basically says, screw your eensie weenie-mobiles!

Why are resale values so horrible on them then?

Weak truck sales hurt GM and Ford

Big 3 see sales sag as gas prices rise. The automakers share drivers' pain as demand for big SUVs, pickups drops.

As demand has softened, automakers have increased incentive spending by 30 percent -- to $4,290 per vehicle -- since March of last year. But buyers still aren't taking the bait, he said.

Detroit automakers have the most to fear from the shift, since they derive a disproportionate amount of sales from large SUVs and rely heavily on profits from the models.

Ford was the first of Detroit's automakers to acknowledge that rising gas prices are pulling down sales of big truck-based SUVs such as the Ford Expedition.

But George Pipas, Ford's chief sales analyst, said the shift is also being driven by a change in consumer tastes away from big SUVs, the rise in popularity of car-based crossover vehicles such as the Toyota Highlander and a change in demographics of the car-buying public.

"Gas prices just seem to be accelerating the trend that was well under way," he said.

Edit-Personally, I think I'd trust the Detriot News Auto Insider over a SEMA fluff article. :roll:

 

[RU482]

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: redly1
I kiss my SUV

03 Pontiac Montana

there is no way anyone can argue that is an SUV rather than a minivan. a lot of minivans people call SUVs, like the honda pilot. but even gm calls that thing a minivan.

your flame bait meter must be on the fritz

 

[Saulbadguy]

Free delivery. I laugh at the people who turn down free delivery "because we gotz a peeeck up." Stupid rednecks. Then the large item they try to pack up falls out of their pickup bed..thats the best.

 

[FeuerFrei]

I've never needed a truck except when moving.
The furniture I buy is delivered to my door.

 

[Ornery]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: Ornery

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Nice link but it's 4 years old. Truck and SUV sales are on the decline. The end of the giant SUV and truck are near and I for one couldn't be happier.

Americans prefer trucks... - Dec 20, 08:15 AM 2004

• Sales of light trucks -- SUVs, pickups and vans--are up 3 percent this year and account for 54 percent of the market. Car sales are off 2 percent in 2004.
  
  Analysts predict that trucks will outsell cars again in 2005, when they see industry sales growing slightly, to around 16.9 million vehicles.

Trucks, SUVs, and Off-road represents the most mainstream of the show...

• Today, they represent approximately half of all new vehicles sold in the U.S.

A picture is worth a thousand words! It basically says, screw your eensie weenie-mobiles!

Why are resale values so horrible on them then?

What does resale value have to do with the FACT that HALF the vehicles sold here are TRUCKS?

BTW, I only WISH they had low resale value, or I'd buy a newer one in a heartbeat!

Weak truck sales hurt GM and Ford

Big 3 see sales sag as gas prices rise. The automakers share drivers' pain as demand for big SUVs, pickups drops.

As demand has softened, automakers have increased incentive spending by 30 percent -- to $4,290 per vehicle -- since March of last year. But buyers still aren't taking the bait, he said.

Detroit automakers have the most to fear from the shift, since they derive a disproportionate amount of sales from large SUVs and rely heavily on profits from the models.

Ford was the first of Detroit's automakers to acknowledge that rising gas prices are pulling down sales of big truck-based SUVs such as the Ford Expedition.

But George Pipas, Ford's chief sales analyst, said the shift is also being driven by a change in consumer tastes away from big SUVs, the rise in popularity of car-based crossover vehicles such as the Toyota Highlander and a change in demographics of the car-buying public.

"Gas prices just seem to be accelerating the trend that was well under way," he said.

Edit-Personally, I think I'd trust the Detriot News Auto Insider over a SEMA fluff article. :roll:

Facts are facts. Soft sales or not, they still account for half of the vehicles sold!

A bleak picture for people who hate trucks!

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: Ornery
A bleak picture for people who hate trucks!

Well, we will see how that graph looks in the next couple years.

 

[Jumpem]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
5-10mpg? I can see 5-10mpg better while towing but I don't think they get much better unloaded than a gasoline engine. Maybe 16-17mpg for the diesel engine vs 14-15mph max for the gas engine.

My cousin gets a bit over 20.

 

[Jumpem]

Originally posted by: Saulbadguy
Free delivery. I laugh at the people who turn down free delivery "because we gotz a peeeck up." Stupid rednecks. Then the large item they try to pack up falls out of their pickup bed..thats the best.

Delivery is good for Home Depot or furniture stores, but plenty of stores don't deliver as well.

 

[Summitdrinker]

I say how can you stand driving a truck all the time?

I want room quietness, comfort, better handling, gas mileage, safety
trucks aren't all that handy in some ways

I will just borrow a truck when I need one, and thats about once a year

 

[CorCentral]

My wife and I get most things delivered. Just ordered a nice coffee table from Kanes Furniture and it was either we drive out 40 miles to south Orlando and pick it up or have it delivered for $70.00
For me, driving through Orlando= Stop and go, stop and go, wear and tear on my car, gas, my time & dealing with traffic. That's not worth $70.00 to me............. Screw that! I said NP deliver it!, I even tipped the 2 guys $5.00 each and it was my wife and I who set it up. I'm so nice.

I drive a Mazda6 Hatchback and can fit a 6.5hp Craftsman push mower (BOXED) inside that trunk! I really thought it would'nt fit :laugh:

It just all depends on the hassle, distance, time, gas, etc on if I get it delivered or not. Most deliverys are under $100. for a Washer/Dryer, Fridge etc.

 

[Jumpem]

Originally posted by: Summitdrinker
I say how can you stand driving a truck all the time?

I want room quietness, comfort, better handling, gas mileage, safety
trucks aren't all that handy in some ways

I will just borrow a truck when I need one, and thats about once a year

Trucks are quiet to me, safety is good since they have alot of mass, they have room too. I guess handling would be a downside. I don't care about mileage at all since I"ll only be driving 100 miles a week.

 

[Jumpem]

Originally posted by: CorCentral
My wife and I get most things delivered. Just ordered a nice coffee table from Kanes Furniture and it was either we drive out 40 miles to south Orlando and pick it up or have it delivered for $70.00
For me, driving through Orlando= Stop and go, stop and go, wear and tear on my car, gas, my time & dealing with traffic. That's not worth $70.00 to me............. Screw that! I said NP deliver it!, I even tipped the 2 guys $5.00 each and it was my wife and I who set it up. I'm so nice.

I drive a Mazda6 Hatchback and can fit a 6.5hp Craftsman push mower (BOXED) inside that trunk! I really thought it would'nt fit :laugh:

It just all depends on the hassle, distance, time, gas, etc on if I get it delivered or not. Most deliverys are under $100. for a Washer/Dryer, Fridge etc.

My whole point is what if you get something big at a store without delivery. I'd either need a truck/van/suv/wagon of my own or go rent a truck for the afternoon.

 

[TechnoKid]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: Jumpem

Originally posted by: TechnoKid
'05 Ford SuperDuty, specifically the F-250 4x4 6.0L Diesel CrewCab pwns the damn 'Hemi' 1500.

If you're gonna buy a truck, especially a full size, make it a diesel or forget about it, this is my motto.

I'd love a full-size diesel, but they are out of my price range. I wish they would offer a diesel for the small trucks.

The only thing a fullsize diesel makes sense for is if you need to tow a heavy trailer. They still get horrible mileage around town unloaded, it's only when you tow a heavy trailer that they shine. A comparable gasoline engine will drop down into the single digits towing a heavy trailer but the diesel will get similar mileage as it does unloaded and all that torque is much more suited to towing.

Isn't diesel fuel slightly more expensive than gasoline anyway?

ahhh........but that sound, yenno, that sound of pure torque, the rat tat tat of a diesel. A gas engine can't touch that.

 

[0roo0roo]

loaded civic with desk+2 bookshelves+bunch of chairs all at once from ikea its not a problem unless its a matress. then theres delivery.
wasting gas 99.9% of the time so you can haul that .1% is retarded