how do i slide the back end of a car out during a turn?

[jlee]

Originally posted by: hanoverphist

Originally posted by: SparkyJJO
If you have FWD, it won't happen.

This is yet another reason why FWD sucks

apparently you havent tried hard enough

i got my fwd intrepid to slide quite a few times around corners. it didnt break tires (duh) but it will slide given enough force and lack of traction

Uh, slide & lack of traction indicate that you did break the tires loose.

Originally posted by: exdeath
Just floor the throttle in the first 1/3 of the turn and lift off as soon as it starts sliding.

Plenty of power in a 370Z to do this without effort. You can also tap the brakes or downshift without rev matching to break the rear tires loose easier.

Most accidents caused by people losing control in corners occur when they are turning too fast and start sliding, then panic and hit the brakes which sends them rear end first into the guardrail.

Or, in certain cars, thinking they're turning too fast, then let off the gas and swap ends.

 

[thomsbrain]

even skoorb didn't realize we are being skoorbed by the OP.

You'd think they would have caught on to the joke after the 370Z comment.

 

[PlasmaBomb]

Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo

Originally posted by: thescreensavers

Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo

Originally posted by: brblx

Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo

Originally posted by: 69Mach1
Handbrake and good timing.

not looking to drift, just a mild slide aroudn a corner.

back tires spinning + countersteering = drift. also known as 'the slowest way through a [paved] corner.' pro drifters (and to a lesser extent, rally drivers) are often at least partially sideways coming into the corner. 'flooring it after the apex' to induce wheelspin would basically be ruining the corner for no real reason.

really, if you have to ask these questions, you should not do it. how old are you? what track is your 'one of a kind racecar' going to be on? :roll:

regardless, post a video of the crash pls.

edit- oh, you're autocrossing. yeah, people are going to laugh at you.

ahhh, more internet assumptions.

not being timed. even if i was, i wouldn't care. most fun i've had in a car was riding shotgun in a friends 240 going sideways.

Well, Most people figure it out and don't need to ask. Its quite simple. your making your self seem young and have no idea what your doing. So thats why people are assuming.

riiight. because everyone's been driving high powered RWD cars since birth and know how to properly control one.

I thought that it was widely known that to get your garage membership you had to drive out of your mothers vajayjay...

Bonus points are awarded for using a high power RWD car, getting it sideways just after the vajayjay and yelling "POWER!!".

 

[DivideBYZero]

Quick prod of the gas mid turn will kick it out, or you could induce a bit of lift-off oversteer if going in hot with a little flick of the wheel and a dab of gas, but unless you're doing this away from the street I would suggest you keep it glued to he road.

 

[evident]

:music:
I wonder if you know,
How they live in Tokyo,
If you seen it then you mean it
Then you know you have to go.
Fast and furious! (Kitaa!) (Drift, Drift, Drift)
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you dont wanna mess with DK, dawg!

 

[BlackTigers]

Haha, here's how I do it in my friend's Terminator.

Turn wheel.
Apply very moderate amounts of (really)loud pedal.

The rest is up to you. You're going to have to practice getting the thing into slides. I learned how to toss a car sideways in an icy parking lot, and from there I learned how to do it on pavement with a FWD car (hand brake), and then finally I tore some shit up in a Cobra. Nothing we tell you is going to teach you how to lose control of your car.

 

[fbrdphreak]

Yes, throttle + excessive steering angle = oversteer. But that's not how to drive fast through a turn. Some oversteer can help rotate the car through the turn, but too much just slows you down. Rather, you need to keep your speed low enough that you aren't understeering into the turn and stay on the throttle enough to accelerate out of the turn without wildly losing rear traction while managing your steering angle to minimize oversteer. If you drive really well, you should get through the turn with minimal wheel slip from either end. If you mess up the turn and need to correct where the car is pointed, applying throttle to a RWD car to rotate it can help a bit, but you risk slowing down even more from too much wheelspin or just causing understeer/complete traction loss by overwhelming all four tires.

In short: take it easy the first few times through and get feedback from more experienced people.

Or if you're just trying to powerslide through a turn, then find a dirt road and don't look like an idiot on the auto-x course.

 

[KIAman]

Wow, lots of misinformation here mixed in with the occasional good advice.

It all depends on the car.

For the 370Z where the majority of the power is made above 4500 RPM it is important to be in the correct gear to keep you in this range.

1. Brake
2. Shift gear (keep it in power)
3. Turn in
4. After the first 1/4 part of the turn, quick dab the throttle until your rear breaks loose, won't even need WOT
5. You can control the rotation purely by your throttle with slight steering correction, assuming your initial turn in was good
6. If you needed to counter steer a lot, you turned in too hot or you throttled too much

This is assuming you have tires in good condition and they have been warmed up.

For AWD/ FWD, you will require the handbrake to break traction a fraction of a second before your turn in then release it immediately to keep speed.

 

[Arkaign]

You can do this in a FWD car as well, only it doesn't look (or feel) near as cool as with a proper RWD. Approach turn at a moderate speed, while you put it in 2nd and hold the clutch all the way in, start turning in without braking, and right as you start to turn, pop the e-brake all the way up for a split second, and the rear comes out. This instant that happens, dump the clutch and drop the e-brake, you'll continue sliding a little bit until the front tires start to really grab, and you shoot off out of the turn.

^^ Like I said, not as cool as with RWD, but still fun (in a controlled environment). Wears on tires / tranny / etc, obviously.

 

[DivideBYZero]

Originally posted by: KIAman
Wow, lots of misinformation here mixed in with the occasional good advice.

It all depends on the car.

For the 370Z where the majority of the power is made above 4500 RPM it is important to be in the correct gear to keep you in this range.

1. Brake
2. Shift gear (keep it in power)
3. Turn in
4. After the first 1/4 part of the turn, quick dab the throttle until your rear breaks loose, won't even need WOT
5. You can control the rotation purely by your throttle with slight steering correction, assuming your initial turn in was good
6. If you needed to counter steer a lot, you turned in too hot or you throttled too much

This is assuming you have tires in good condition and they have been warmed up.

For AWD/ FWD, you will require the handbrake to break traction a fraction of a second before your turn in then release it immediately to keep speed.

In the case of FWD it's perfectly easy to induce lift-off oversteer. I wouldn't advocate using the handbrake unless you want to take a hairpin. AWD is more problematic as you need a great deal more power to break traction and in general are not as easy to drift unless modified to do so.

 

[exdeath]

Originally posted by: JLee

Or, in certain cars, thinking they're turning too fast, then let off the gas and swap ends.

Like an MR2

 

[Nyati13]

Originally posted by: SparkyJJO
If you have FWD, it won't happen.

This is yet another reason why FWD sucks

It is possible to induce a FWD to 'kick' the back out (kind of, you're really dragging the front in faster than the back can keep up with, so the back steps out). Right after you steer into the corner, completely lift off the gas, and then steer even harder into the corner. Then get back on the gas (whether or not the back did step out, and it doesn't always cooperate) and steer according to whichever direction your nose is now pointing.

Not nearly as consistant or safe as a RWD.

 

[hanoverphist]

Originally posted by: JLee

Originally posted by: hanoverphist

Originally posted by: SparkyJJO
If you have FWD, it won't happen.

This is yet another reason why FWD sucks

apparently you havent tried hard enough

i got my fwd intrepid to slide quite a few times around corners. it didnt break tires (duh) but it will slide given enough force and lack of traction

Uh, slide & lack of traction indicate that you did break the tires loose.

Originally posted by: exdeath
Just floor the throttle in the first 1/3 of the turn and lift off as soon as it starts sliding.

Plenty of power in a 370Z to do this without effort. You can also tap the brakes or downshift without rev matching to break the rear tires loose easier.

Most accidents caused by people losing control in corners occur when they are turning too fast and start sliding, then panic and hit the brakes which sends them rear end first into the guardrail.

Or, in certain cars, thinking they're turning too fast, then let off the gas and swap ends.

ya, youre right. i was implying forward break, since its a fwd car... if its sliding it already broke loose of the street sideways

 

[SSSnail]

Congratz on getting your driver's license!

 

[ivan2]

1. drive in snow.

 

[beat mania]

Originally posted by: ivan2
1. drive in snow.

QFT

 

[exar333]

I might suggest the OP sell the 370z (or at least return it to the dealer within the 24 hours "test drive" session he has it ) and get a manual econobox with ~90hp. Downgrade to some balled tires, and practice slides all day long.

Edit: I actually have a 370z, and doing a slide is very easy. You could always wait until it rains or something too....the snow idea in the thread was good too.

 

[RichUK]

I?ve flicked the rear end of my car out around roundabouts in the wet a few times (with all the driver aids turned 'on', like DSC). It?s surprising how far the car lets you go before reigning in the power, etc. I found the less wheel spin the more sideways you can go (in the wet). Low revs and second gear works like a charm.

 

[DarkThinker]

Originally posted by: SparkyJJO
If you have FWD, it won't happen.

This is yet another reason why FWD sucks

While yes I agree FWD sucks for driving pleasure, however if you believe you can't slide the tail out in a FWD car, you understand little about the kinetics of the processes of linear and angular motion.

 

[BlackTigers]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v..._buZPSo&fmt=22#t=1m10s

THAT's how.

 

[geokilla]

Go search up Keiichi Tsuchiya's Drift Bible. Teaches you how to drift. Very good video.

 

[kevman]

Originally posted by: BlahBlahYouToo

no, i'll be driving a special edition FWD 370z.

ZOMG what a dumb noob-head

 

[alkemyst]

various ways....pulling your ebrake mid turn is about the easiest

If the car has power and not too much grip it's just a matter of coming into the turn and gunning it...you may have to downshift to be in the power band.

If you look up 'how to drift' you can find a lot of the techniques.