is it as simple as:
1. turn in
2. right before exiting turn, floor it
3. be ready to counter-steer to correct
1. turn in
2. right before exiting turn, floor it
3. be ready to counter-steer to correct
how do i slide the back end of a car out during a turn?
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thescreensavers
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no, i'll be driving a special edition FWD 370z. only one of its kind in the world.
and when did i say anything about driving it on a street?
why don't u go back to driving your automatic datsun.
gotta love the internets, where one can be condescending without consequence.
:roll::roll::roll::roll:
lol at the FWD 370, at least I hope you're joking.
for a RWD keep the rpms mid-high as you come into the corner, then floor it as you start into the turn. Works every time for me.
for a RWD keep the rpms mid-high as you come into the corner, then floor it as you start into the turn. Works every time for me.
floor it as you START the turn? i'm thinking that will swing the back end out wildly.
i thoguht it was take the turn as usual and floor it after the apex.
never driven a high powered RWD car IRL. only on the PS3.
Depends on how you enter the turn.
Normally, if you've committed to a slightly fast entry, (slight late braking), keeping rpms in the middle and adding power before the apex should help rotate the car around to face the correct exit angle, a car takes a fraction of a second to shift weight front to back after letting go of the brakes, so you can to exploit the lower tire loading out back before weight shifts again. Just look out to not over cook the tires and go far beyond the static coefficient of friction, or you're in some trouble.
As a newer driver, take the same corner or a similar corenr and try different amounts of braking and acceleration, gradually working it up,. It's always better to not slide than to spin out and create a track hazard/black flag.
If you braked early, you're already on the right exit trajectory and oversteering is sort of useless.
Of course you could always brake really late and stand on the brakes, followed by a sudden turn. That is guaranteed to bring the tail out but whether you'll stay on the track is a completely different story.
disclaimer, these are really for a couple degrees of over steer, don't expect me to know how to drift. If you try this and push your car to 15%+ oversteer, don't blame me if you go up in a ball of fire. I've hit maybe 3/4% at most oversteer since the tradeoff for lap times go way down beyond mild drift angles.
Normally, if you've committed to a slightly fast entry, (slight late braking), keeping rpms in the middle and adding power before the apex should help rotate the car around to face the correct exit angle, a car takes a fraction of a second to shift weight front to back after letting go of the brakes, so you can to exploit the lower tire loading out back before weight shifts again. Just look out to not over cook the tires and go far beyond the static coefficient of friction, or you're in some trouble.
As a newer driver, take the same corner or a similar corenr and try different amounts of braking and acceleration, gradually working it up,. It's always better to not slide than to spin out and create a track hazard/black flag.
If you braked early, you're already on the right exit trajectory and oversteering is sort of useless.
Of course you could always brake really late and stand on the brakes, followed by a sudden turn. That is guaranteed to bring the tail out but whether you'll stay on the track is a completely different story.
disclaimer, these are really for a couple degrees of over steer, don't expect me to know how to drift. If you try this and push your car to 15%+ oversteer, don't blame me if you go up in a ball of fire. I've hit maybe 3/4% at most oversteer since the tradeoff for lap times go way down beyond mild drift angles.
JulesMaximus
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Be sure and let us know how much damage you do to your car when you lose control and wreck it.
Oh, and post pics.
Oh, and post pics.
Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Be sure and let us know how much damage you do to your car when you lose control and wreck it.
Oh, and post pics.
maybe cones getting stuck under the car, depending how big they are. doesnt' make for very exciting pics.
TMI and too technical.
so you're also saying to keep rpm's mid range (so about 3500 on a car with 7k redline), floor it before the apex, then snap the steering wheel?
JulesMaximus
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Why on earth are you trying to do this anyway? Very best case scenario you will slide the car and wear out your rear tires quickly (not cheap on a 370Z), worst case scenario you total your car. Is your goal to go as slowly as possible around a track? Because the fastest way around a track does not involve sliding the car sideways in every turn...unless you're on a dirt track.
brblx
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back tires spinning + countersteering = drift. also known as 'the slowest way through a [paved] corner.' pro drifters (and to a lesser extent, rally drivers) are often at least partially sideways coming into the corner. 'flooring it after the apex' to induce wheelspin would basically be ruining the corner for no real reason.
really, if you have to ask these questions, you should not do it. how old are you? what track is your 'one of a kind racecar' going to be on? :roll:
regardless, post a video of the crash pls.
edit- oh, you're autocrossing. yeah, people are going to laugh at you.
thescreensavers
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ok now that your driving on the track, which I hope you are. lol
Turn off VDC and do what you said., Its really not that hard. I think you might be overthinking this.
ahhh, more internet assumptions.
not being timed. even if i was, i wouldn't care. most fun i've had in a car was riding shotgun in a friends 240 going sideways.
hanoverphist
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Originally posted by: SparkyJJO
If you have FWD, it won't happen.
This is yet another reason why FWD sucks
apparently you havent tried hard enough
i got my fwd intrepid to slide quite a few times around corners. it didnt break tires (duh) but it will slide given enough force and lack of traction
thescreensavers
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Well, Most people figure it out and don't need to ask. Its quite simple. your making your self seem young and have no idea what your doing. So thats why people are assuming.
Bignate603
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exdeath
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Just floor the throttle in the first 1/3 of the turn and lift off as soon as it starts sliding.
Plenty of power in a 370Z to do this without effort. You can also tap the brakes or downshift without rev matching to break the rear tires loose easier.
Most accidents caused by people losing control in corners occur when they are turning too fast and start sliding, then panic and hit the brakes which sends them rear end first into the guardrail.
Plenty of power in a 370Z to do this without effort. You can also tap the brakes or downshift without rev matching to break the rear tires loose easier.
Most accidents caused by people losing control in corners occur when they are turning too fast and start sliding, then panic and hit the brakes which sends them rear end first into the guardrail.
riiight. because everyone's been driving high powered RWD cars since birth and know how to properly control one.
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