How do i learn to type without looking at keys?

Gizmo j

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I've used computers pretty much all my life but I never been able to type without looking at the keys.

I know the general location where the keys are, if I don't have a keyboard I can pretend to type on a imaginary keyboard but when I try on a real keyboard I press keys that are near the keys i actually want to press.

I think a big reason I cant is because I have very big hands and the key layout seems cramped.

Any advice?
 

brainhulk

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Find your home keys (f and j keys with the ridges) with index fingers. And then its just tons of repetition, eventually you will gain the muscle memory.
 
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I could not grasp that at first when I was learning how to type, but, it just kind of comes naturally. If you asked me to actually tell where all the keys are from memory, I would not even be able to tell you off hand, but when I actually type, my fingers just go to the right keys automatically.
 
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Never learned the home rule shit - even though I had school classes that tried to teach that stuff. It's just repetition.

I honestly don't understand how one can be a computer geek and not learn this naturally. Just learn to stop looking at the keyboard. Is it really that difficult?
 
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I feel the need to throw a wrench at a computer geek and say "If you can fap then you can type a keyboard without looking"
 

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I've used computers pretty much all my life but I never been able to type without looking at the keys.

I know the general location where the keys are, if I don't have a keyboard I can pretend to type on a imaginary keyboard but when I try on a real keyboard I press keys that are near the keys i actually want to press.

I think a big reason I cant is because I have very big hands and the key layout seems cramped.

Any advice?

Learning how to type is a commitment in two ways:

1. A commitment to investing the time over several months
2. A commitment to being willing to do simple exercises every day

It's not hard, but you have to be willing to do simple things consistently. This is for a few reasons:

1. We don't learn AND remember huge amounts of knowledge at once time
2. We have to develop the muscle memory to do the simple things, like holding shift & a letter to capitalize it, or learning what finger goes on what keyboard

Our brain has something called myelin, which is basically how talent operates physically. In a nutshell:

1. When you do something new, your brain creates a new neural pathway, like a bridge
2. When you do something again, it wraps a piece of floss around that neural pathway
3. The more you do it, the more myelin wraps around that bridge, which acts like high-speed fiber Internet
4. You brain creates myelin by simple, repeatable tasks. Shift+A = capital A. Wraps a line. Practice it the next day. Wraps another line. Circuit gets fatter, your speed & memory increases!

If you remember tying your shoe as a kid, or learning how to whistle or snap - same deal. Really hard at first, but second-nature after your neural pathway was created & you practiced so many times that you have a big fat myelin wrap around it. Even if you wear sandals all summer, you can still come back & pick up tying your shoes again pretty quickly, because that myelin already exists. So practice doesn't so much make perfect as makes better. This is why you have to not only commit to a long-term investment of time, but also commit to a willingness to do very specific, simple exercises every day, because you can only learn & keep a little tiny bit of information at a time & then practice that to get better.

I type really fast because I took a typing class in middle school where we took this exact approach. We practiced the same letter for hours. It took all semester to learn the keyboard. And it's been an incredibly huge asset in my life ever since! Moving on, there are a lot of great courses online. I'd suggest checking out one like this:


Create an entry in your calendar to practice one lesson a day, and then actually do it every day. Again, this means committing to actually, really doing simple things, and to doing them consistently, because otherwise, chances are you're always going to be in hunt-and-peck mode & never truly master touch-typing. Also, practice on this game every day:


Regarding keyboards, they do make keyboards for large hands:


Anyway, the bottom line is that it is NOT hard to learn AT ALL, but it does require not just a long-term commitment, but a commitment to a willingness to do simple things in every practice session. Learning how to type without looking is like having a superpower these days - you can write emails faster, write online posts better, search Youtube & Google quicker, translate thoughts into writing at nearly a 1:1 ratio, etc. 100% worth investing a few minute's worth of time every day over the course of several months to learn how to do! Also, if you like the concept of myelin & want to learn more, check out the book "The Talent Code" by Daniel Coyle, where he talks more about the formula for practicing to get talented at stuff, which is where I learned about myelin from. The audiobook is great:

 

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I honestly don't understand how one can be a computer geek and not learn this naturally. Just learn to stop looking at the keyboard. Is it really that difficult?

You'd be amazed at how many computer professionals I know either type & peck or do a weird hybrid of shortcut-typing & looking at the keyboard.

I would say learning how to touch-type should be mandatory these days, but now you can just talk to Siri & have her type up whatever you want, or use auto-correct on your phone's keyboard with predicative AI finishing. Plus there's stuff like Grammerly & other neato tools, so...eh. I certainly find it incredibly useful!
 

mikeymikec

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Before I learned to touch-type, my typing speed was 14wpm. I knew where all the keys were.

When I finished the course of touch-typing, my typing speed was 25wpm. In the next couple of years it went up to 60wpm, and it just measured as 78wpm (adjusted for errors).

IMO touch-typing is about teaching a technique, not just muscle memory.

@Gizmo j Which keyboard are you using?
 
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Just practice a lot.

I taught myself (on manual typewriters) when an adolesecent. Been damn useful since. The really weird thing about it is how easily impressed people often are by touch-typing. So many times since I've been asked "how do you _do_ that?", as if it's some amazing skill (it isn't).
I still can't get the special characters (shifted number keys) consistently though.
 

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I think it makes me more verbose and long-winded in emails and forum posts though. Too easy to just burble on as your fingers outrun your brain.
 

mikeymikec

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Just practice a lot.

I taught myself (on manual typewriters) when an adolesecent. Been damn useful since. The really weird thing about it is how easily impressed people often are by touch-typing. So many times since I've been asked "how do you _do_ that?", as if it's some amazing skill (it isn't).
I still can't get the special characters (shifted number keys) consistently though.
I think it makes me more verbose and long-winded in emails and forum posts though. Too easy to just burble on as your fingers outrun your brain.

God, I wish I had these skills in school and was allowed to submit typed essays! I kept mine short because for example my wrist ached after writing a sheet of A4 and it's so freaking slow! IMO touch-typing should be part of the mandatory curriculum, primary school if the schools insist on computer-generated homework.
 

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Ugh I don't miss having to write essays by hand. Even when we did have access to computers they felt it was cheating so they still wanted us to do them by hand. I used to cheat a little and use the computer anyway, then I would just write it all out at the end. When I got half way through high school computers started to be a bit more accepted as a way to hand your final work in. Though when it came to research papers the internet as a whole counted as 1 source, so you still had to go take out books or encyclopedias etc.
 

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Ugh I don't miss having to write essays by hand. Even when we did have access to computers they felt it was cheating so they still wanted us to do them by hand. I used to cheat a little and use the computer anyway, then I would just write it all out at the end. When I got half way through high school computers started to be a bit more accepted as a way to hand your final work in. Though when it came to research papers the internet as a whole counted as 1 source, so you still had to go take out books or encyclopedias etc.

I remember the physical pain of writing essays by hand (and my essays were very long and I never really learned to handwrite properly so it was a seriously exhausting process), though that's why I learned to type. No computers then - manual typewriters only.

Really, I never did learn to write 'cursive', as once computers came along it was all typing. I still have really bad "penmanship" now. In fact I find myself admiring/envying some people's elegant handwriting.
 

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I feel the need to throw a wrench at a computer geek and say "If you can fap then you can type a keyboard without looking"
That's because it is inaccurate. It should be "If you can fap then you can type on a keyboard with one hand without looking."
 
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Just practice a lot.

I taught myself (on manual typewriters) when an adolesecent. Been damn useful since. The really weird thing about it is how easily impressed people often are by touch-typing. So many times since I've been asked "how do you _do_ that?", as if it's some amazing skill (it isn't).
I still can't get the special characters (shifted number keys) consistently though.

Ahahahahaha

That explains why you still do the old-fashioned 2 spaces after each period. n00b!
 

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Just practice a lot.

I taught myself (on manual typewriters) when an adolesecent. Been damn useful since. The really weird thing about it is how easily impressed people often are by touch-typing. So many times since I've been asked "how do you _do_ that?", as if it's some amazing skill (it isn't).
I still can't get the special characters (shifted number keys) consistently though.
I'm always amazed by the way my wife can type.
She'll be reading something in French whilst translating it and typing it in English and at the same time telling me the list of jobs around the house that need doing that she's saved up for my day off!
 

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Ahahahahaha

That explains why you still do the old-fashioned 2 spaces after each period. n00b!

I do remember specifically reading that that's what you were supposed to do. Also recall reading since that people have stopped doing it (because screen text is different from printed text, or is it a US/UK thing?), but I'm sticking with the old ways.
 

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I do remember specifically reading that that's what you were supposed to do. Also recall reading since that people have stopped doing it (because screen text is different from printed text, or is it a US/UK thing?), but I'm sticking with the old ways.

No. It is still taught by many typing tutors who mistakenly thought it was some rule for proper writing but it is technically incorrect except for readability with a mono-spaced font. Computers don't have the same physical limitations as a typewriter, so mono-spaced fonts are no longer the norm. HTML even removes the extra spaces you've been typing when it renders what you wrote. Take a look if you don't believe me.


...yep: wasted effort. The two spaces for a space and a period shortcut should've been the death-knell for this but it seems Windows machines still don't do this with the physical keyboard.
 
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I took a class for a semester in highschool. Prior to that I didn't know how to type without looking. This was back in like 1997 or so. whatever application we were using to learn I ended up getting and doing it at home on my free time. It got me completely typing without looking. Since then my speed has improved drastically. I can easily type over 100 wpm and probably even faster than that. I do get slowed down a little bit if I need to type numbers though. I still look at the keys sometimes when typing some numbers like if I am typing a password that is just random characters/numbers because it's not a common pattern of numbers.
 

CZroe

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Two spaces after a full stop - There's no correct answer, it's still a debated topic unsurprisingly as it comes down to aesthetics:

Can I let you in on a secret? Typing two spaces after a period is totally, completely, utterly, and inarguably wrong...
 
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I don't know if I'm alone here - but I type damn fast of 100+ wpm, but I never liked the concept of the home row and never got used to it even in my old high school typing class.

I don't keep my fingers in any real one position - just place them on the keyboard and they naturally gravitate to where they need.