How do I get past my router?

Alphathree33

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I've got two computers networked via a linksys router and the router's WAN port connects to my entire dorm.

Obviously from within network settings I can see my two computers, but I can't see anything past my router.

I realize that routers are supposed to block traffic, but how do I get around this so that I can see computers outside of my little LAN?
 

bmacd

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*sigh*
i have a belkin router and can't open up port 6667 or port 21 to use IRC or host an FTP connection (respectively). The documentation is terrible for this Belkin 4 port DSL/cable router. I've tried playing with a bunch of things, but can't get an open port. I can, however, browse the web just fine and use kazaa lite/direct connect without problem.

-=bmacd=-
 

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I've got two computers networked via a linksys router and the router's WAN port connects to my entire dorm.

That says you are trying to bypass campus security whihc is a no-no here. If this is a legitimate purpose, ask your admin to allow your ip.
 

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You would have to do one of the following - depending on exactly what you want to do with them, and how bare assed you want to be sitting

1. one to one nat - basically say any requests for the public ip forward over to the internal private IP
2. hang the machine out on the DMZ port
3. do port forwarding - whenever the router gets a request for a specific port, it sends that request over to an internal IP you specify

What do you want to do with them from outside your little lan?
 

Alphathree33

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Originally posted by: Evadman
I've got two computers networked via a linksys router and the router's WAN port connects to my entire dorm.
That says you are trying to bypass campus security whihc is a no-no here. If this is a legitimate purpose, ask your admin to allow your ip.

Well my purposes are two fold. One, I want be able to download other people's shared files. A lot of people are sharing MP3s and things.

Another is I'd like to be able to join dorm LAN games.

There's no bypassing campus security... it's my router... I could just plug my computer right into the wall like everyone else and I would have access to all of the shared files anyway.
 

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Look at the status of your router and see what IP address it's pulling.

Is it a public, or a private IP?
 

Alphathree33

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Originally posted by: vi_edit
Look at the status of your router and see what IP address it's pulling. Is it a public, or a private IP?

I'm not sure what you mean by public or private in the sense that it doesn't say one or the other. If by public you mean can I see it or does it just say (Private)... I am looking right now at the IP that my router is pulling from an external source.
 

minendo

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Originally posted by: Alphathree33
There's no bypassing campus security... it's my router... I could just plug my computer right into the wall like everyone else and I would have access to all of the shared files anyway.
His point being that many campuses allow one computer per user thus making routers against the service policy.

 
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Originally posted by: vi_edit
Look at the status of your router and see what IP address it's pulling.

Is it a public, or a private IP?

Obviously public, else he wouldn't be posting this / using Kazaa / etc. :p

I don't understand what the "violation of security" bit is.

He gets one IP. He has >1 computer. He NATs his one IP to allow both online.

Oh my god. Security breach. No way can anyone have a legitimate use for more than one computer!
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BTW: Private IP = 10.0.x.x, 192.168.x.x, or (I forget the third set) - Public IP = anything else.
If you're looking to enable Windows File Sharing, you'll have to forward the approriate ports to a machine (TCP ports 137 & 139 IIRC) and be aware of the security risks associated with doing so. What sometimes works is putting the IP number directly in, or obtaining by a network probe of the netblock.

- M4H
 

Alphathree33

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Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: vi_edit Look at the status of your router and see what IP address it's pulling. Is it a public, or a private IP?
Obviously public, else he wouldn't be posting this / using Kazaa / etc. :p I don't understand what the "violation of security" bit is. He gets one IP. He has >1 computer. He NATs his one IP to allow both online. Oh my god. Security breach. No way can anyone have a legitimate use for more than one computer!
rolleye.gif
BTW: Private IP = 10.0.x.x, 192.168.x.x, or (I forget the third set) - Public IP = anything else. If you're looking to enable Windows File Sharing, you'll have to forward the approriate ports to a machine (TCP ports 137 & 139 IIRC) and be aware of the security risks associated with doing so. What sometimes works is putting the IP number directly in, or obtaining by a network probe of the netblock. - M4H

Thanks for the info. It is definitely public.

I don't want to share files myself. (I know how to do the appropriate port forwarding for that. :))

I want to be able to see the files that other people are sharing and download those.

Right now if I go to network neighbourhood I see only my two computers. But if I were to connect directly, without going through my router (i.e. unplugging my router and rebooting... really annoying) I would see all of the computers on my dorm's network. I want to be able to see this without unplugging the router.