How do I get my ram to run at stock speed? (433DDR)

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Minotar

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Hey all! Just bought a new PC with the Asus A8n-SLI Deluxe mobo, FX55 processor, and 4 sticks of DDR 433 with heat spreaders from Mushkin. Problem is, the company I bought the rig from underclocked my RAM, and told me that they did so because it is more stable because the RAM is finicky? Can anyone tell me what I have to do to get my RAM to run at 433 without going crazy? I don't want to majorly overclock at all... I just don't want my stuff underclocked. I have a very very good cooling setup (not liquid) on my PC, and my current CPU temp is 34C, which is damn cool. Can anyone please help?
 
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SrGuapo

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What is your RAM running at? Have you OCed your CPU any?

If the RAM is running at 400 and you haven't OCed, that is because the RAM is running at the same speed as the HTT. In order to speed up the RAM, you will have to speed up the HTT (which in turn speeds up the CPU).
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If the RAM really is defective, demand the company replace it or you may have to deal with the manufacturer... I can't imagine any reputable company tewlling a consumer that they gave them a broken product and not offering to replace it. Who did you buy this from?
 
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I am not sure what you mean?... Why do they need to be underclocked just because I have 4 dimms? They currently set the speed at 333Mhz, which really sucks ass! Please someone help me. I have not overclocked anything at all, and my mem is underclocked to 333Mhz. If I change the ram clock to 433 in the bios, what else do I need to change (voltage, latencies, HTT, etc...) to get this stable, if all I want to do is have my ram running at its stock 433 speed and nothing else? Does anyone know for sure?
 
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Minotar

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Oh, one more thing... The company I bought it from is being really cool about it (Velocity Micro). As a matter of fact, I can overclock my video card, and they won't void my warranty. They explained that they do not overclock processors on their PC's, which is why they had to underclock the ram to avoid a processor overclock. However, they did not go nuts when I told them my plans to try and set the ram to 433. As a matter of fact, the guy talked to me for a while about overclocking video cards and I gave him some tips for ATI cards (my radeon 9600XT in my other PC is OCed). Velocity Micro is the company I decided on after tons and tons of research and questionaires, and they have not disappointed other than this underclock thing:( Hope this gives you all more info for where I am coming from...
 
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Xed

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a64's mem controller defaults to 333mhz with 4 dimm's. nothing you can do about it besides oc
 
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Minotar

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Oh, I see! But, in my case, the only thing that will be OC'ed is my CPU, right, since my ram is stated at 433? MY cooling is a huge 120mm Zalman cooler with Artic 5 compound...am I safe to overclock my processor? What adjustments can anyone with experience and stability recommend for a newb CPU oc'er who does not want to go nuts with this? Thanks for any help!!!
 
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Xed

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try setting your cpu multi to 12x and your fsb to 217 and put your ram timing at whatever stock is listed at.

12x217 = 2.604ghz

ymmv, i have no idea how your cpu will react with 4 dimms filled =)
 
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Because, that is all they had available in the 433 ram... You see, I am not an expert at all this, so I elected for the fastest ram that they had, not knowing a thing about timings and multipliers and such. I don't plan on upgrading the ram for a very long time (3 years or more), so it is not a big deal to me how many slots it takes up. MY expectation was that I'd get my system with fastest than average ram (@433) and that would be it... I did not know that it would be more complicated than that:( uggggggg
 
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Xed

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Since you seem to really want 2 gigs of ram and don't want to oc anything, you can ask them to replace the 4 dimms with 2 x 1gb sticks. Timings will be slower but they won't downclock
 
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Minotar

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To be honest, I actually DO want my system overclocked, but I was under the impression that they would do it for me... With all this cooling, I would like to bump my stuff up a little, but I don't want to F anything up! I see some people doing some crazy overclocking on these forums with stock cooling, so I don't see why a small bump up would be a big deal. The RAm I have can actually be overclocked even higher than 433, according to Mushkin, but I would like to get my system going at the 433 speed first. Can anyone give me actual advise to make this happen, besides asking for different ram and messing with all that... The system I have runs cool and fast; there is no reason why I can't push it a little.
 
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Minotar

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Very well, I will try that:) Just out of curiosity, if I left the mult at 13X with the ram set to 433 DDR, can I expect problems? In either case, do I need to change any voltages? If so, what is a guidline for all this? Thanks for all the help, guys:)
 
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I don't get it? All these heavy overclockers here, and noone really has given much guidance with my problem? Most of the replies here are scrutinizing me for getting 4 mem sticks, rather than actually adressing my issue. As for Xed.... I talked to Velocity Micro and they told me that my system would actually run slower than if I left the ram at 333... Even though 2.6Ghz would still register, with the multiplier at 12X instead of 13X, I was told that my overall performance would actually be less:( Confused now:(
 
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Duvie

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You will be running a 166divider at least so the goal would be to run say 8-9x multis with a 260HHT and...9 would be better and have a bit of an overclock


The real problem may be it may revert you to use a 2t very early on...Their may not be any way to run rated speed, and specs.....
 
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Minotar

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LOL... Remember I am an OCing newb! What the hell is a divider? Also, what is the adv advantages/disadvantages of setting my fsb higher like that with my multiplier lower? I am not getting this whole thing...
 
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Minotar, here's the steps you need to take (which posters have already said in this thread, I'll just put it in noob speak).

1. Go into the BIOS (hit delete key most likely on startup)
2. Find where it says something like "CPU Ratio" or "FSB Setting" and set it to 217. This is usually in an "Advanced Settings" area (not familiar with your board).
3. Now find in your BIOS where your RAM settings (timings) are, make sure it says "Auto" or "By SPD"
4. OPTIONAL - You may want to increase your voltage a smidge to your RAM, so look for a VDimm setting (or DDR Voltage, stock setting is 2.5V for normal DDR). Set this to 2.7 (safe voltage) or just use the +0.2 setting (same thing).

You're done. Save and Exit the BIOS. Your CPU will be bumped up in speed, but not by much and your cooling is more than adequate. You can leave our multiplier alone, doesn't need to be changed.

Let me know how it goes.
 
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Duvie

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Problem is 4 dimms will revert to 166divider so 216 will not equal 433ddr...That is why I am showing him he needs to set it even higher to get actual 433ddr speeds...
 
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