How do i gain pound-for-pound strength?

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purbeast0

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Originally posted by: 49erinnc
On a slightly related note but mostly in relation to all of the "how do I get big" threads on here:

People credit nutrition, supplements and training way too much and not nearly enough for genetics. Sure, eating right, taking supplements and working out all the time is going to increase your strength and size. But you cannot change your DNA. You can go to the gym 5 days a week and work your ass off for 2 hours each time. But there's always going to be a guy who goes 3 times a week and does a moderate workout for 45 minutes who's still going to end up stronger and more ripped than you. It sucks but that's life.

going to the gym 5 days a week for 2 hours each time would be way WAY overtraining.

so yes, someone going 3 times a week doing 45 min workouts WILL have better results than someone who goves 5 days a week for 2 hours each time, regardless of their DNA.

you have it backwards - people don't look at nutrition or proper training ENOUGH when lifting.
 

dbot

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I think the key is doing alot of dips and pullups. I gained alot of strength once I started doing them along with weights.

I've gotten to the point where I have to use a dip belt with a 45lb plate for resistance.

I'm 5'7 about 130-135 and bench about 185
 

alkemyst

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Originally posted by: Phokus
Originally posted by: destrekor
injections of adrenaline?
sorry, got nothing for ya. strength is typically a reflection of muscle size.

That's not true, a lot of powerlifters are much smaller but much stronger than bigger bodybuilders.

body mass is based on genetics and/or supplementation of hormones.

You can have a build like Bruce Lee or like Lou Ferrigno (The Hulk).

There is Ecto/Meso/Endomorph types and you get what your genes gave you.
 

Minjin

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I remember reading that trainers were taking tissue samples of of people to see what their fiber ratios were to see if they could accomplish what they wanted to accomplish. Is this actually done?
 

aCynic2

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Originally posted by: StevenYoo
I don't want to gain much more in terms of size, really.

I just want to work on keeping my size, yet increasing my strength.

advice?

Low rep, high weight lifting. Generally, 3x3x90-95%.

Also, wave loading is an excellent way to gain strength. Many of the pro coaches who know their stuff use it.

In general, strength is a matter of neural efficiency rather than muscle size, but strong muscles and connective tissues (tendons, ligaments, etc) help to prevent injury when pushing your limits.

I know a 58yr old man who's been lifting for 5 years, is now breaking a 405 deadlift.

He, and I, use the book "New Rules of Lifting," by Lou Schuler and Alwyn Cosgrove. Lou writes the information in the book and is interesting to listen to, while Alwyn wrote the programs. There are four stages: break-in, fat loss, hypertrophy and strength, with FL, HYP and STR composed of three programs each.
 

StevenYoo

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Originally posted by: aCynic2
Originally posted by: StevenYoo
I don't want to gain much more in terms of size, really.

I just want to work on keeping my size, yet increasing my strength.

advice?

Also, wave loading is an excellent way to gain strength. Many of the pro coaches who know their stuff use it.

what's wave loading?
 

aCynic2

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Wave loading works like this

Five sets:

6 reps
1 rep
6 reps
1 rep
10-12 reps

Where the 1 rep sets are a significant increase in load over the six rep sets. The second set of six reps should also be more than the first in terms of load, thus each set should be a greater load than the previous of it's like. There's many ways of configuring wave loading parameters. Read this:

http://www.t-nation.com/findArticle.do?article=05-037-training