How do I change my soft mod?

markjs · Mar 4, 2004

I used the soft mod drivers for my ATI 9500np and it has artifacts, but that's when it's set as a 9700. I know I probably won't get any better results, but how do I soft mod to a 9500pro speed?

SneakyStuff · Mar 4, 2004

you dont, anything you "modded" YOU messed up, and it's YOUR fault. Many other forum members will tell you, soft-modding is wreckless, and is a personal risk.

markjs · Mar 4, 2004

Read the post! I know all that stuff and it isn't "messed up" I just need to know how to change the soft mod to the 9500pro setting, and yes it can be done. I simply do not know how.

SneakyStuff · Mar 4, 2004

and i'm simply telling you, you aren't going to find many people willing to help you.

markjs · Mar 4, 2004

Yeah you're simply being a pain in the ass is more like it.

If you want to help help, if not just SHUT IT!

MercenaryForHire · Mar 4, 2004

If you're too dumb to figure out how to go back, you shouldn't have gone there in the first place.

- M4H

rbV5 · Mar 4, 2004

Probably punch softmod in the search engine at Rage3D forum, probably lots of info there. wtf is with the attitude anyway, isn't a soft mod driver using software to enable the 4 pipelines? Why is that different that using software to overclock your card or CPU?

markjs · Mar 4, 2004

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
If you're too dumb to figure out how to go back, you shouldn't have gone there in the first place.

- M4H

I know how to go back thank you, and all I have to do is switch to ordinary drivers. BTW there is no risk in softmodding, being as it's only opening the additional unused 4 pipelines.

I got attitude because I was given attitude, and I'll damn well give it back if I please, it's only directed at the one guy anyway.

I have searched the soft mod site and found no answers so I ask here. The question still stands. Still I am searching on my own in the meantime.

rbV5 · Mar 4, 2004

I got attitude because I was given attitude, and I'll damn well give it back if I please, it's only directed at the one guy anyway.

Its not your attittude I'm talking about, and I don't blame ya.

SneakyStuff · Mar 4, 2004

markjs, watch your "attitude" or the forum moderator will watch it for you. There is no risk in soft-modding? It only works correctly 30-70% of the time, but of course, you knew that before you did it.

rbV5 · Mar 4, 2004

Originally posted by: SneakyStuff
markjs, watch your "attitude" or the forum moderator will watch it for you. There is no risk in soft-modding? It only works correctly 30-70% of the time, but of course, you knew that before you did it.

Why don't you stay out of his thread if you're not going to offer him help? So what if it only works some of the time?

SneakyStuff · Mar 4, 2004

because according to mr know it all, "there is no risk in soft-modding" it's a personal risk, and if he wants to fix it, perhaps he should go back to the website he was so charmed by in the first place. What help is there to offer? The problem could have been caused by more than just one factor. If he doesn't even know how to go back, how is he supposed to provide us with a recap of what he did?

rbV5 · Mar 4, 2004

because according to mr know it all, "there is no risk in soft-modding" it's a personal risk, and if he wants to fix it, perhaps he should go back to the website he was so charmed by in the first place. What help is there to offer? The problem could have been caused by more than just one factor. If he doesn't even know how to go back, how is he supposed to provide us with a recap of what he did?

Since he already provided the answer to going back by installing regular drivers, whats your point again? This is an enthusiast site, people work on their rigs and people ask questions...whats wrong with that? So what if its cause by more than one factor...ever hear of troubleshooting? Whats your problem?

SneakyStuff · Mar 4, 2004

MY problem is people who think soft-modding is a joke, return their cards or RMA them because something went wrong, and then guess what, those cards get redistributed, and someone who pays good money for the card gets riped-off. The powercolor 9800se would be a prime example of this. Now granted, I may have been a little harsh, seeing as he has a discontinued card, that canot be RMA'd, "the song remains the same" My advice for mark in the future, read more on what you're going to do in the first place, and if you don't feel that it is safe, just overclock. Overclocking is a much safer way to get gaurenteed results, as for your 4 locked pipelines, just remember, unlocking them only works 30-70% of the time. But what I cannot see, is why on earth did you think you could soft-mod that card to a 9700?

rbV5 · Mar 4, 2004

MY problem is people who think soft-modding is a joke, return their cards or RMA them because something went wrong, and then guess what, those cards get redistributed, and someone who pays good money for the card gets riped-off.

That argument is a huge stretch. How many 9500np get killed during a softmod...gimmee a break. Even if they return the card because it didn't softmod (something I don't condone btw) Its still a 9500np.

The powercolor 9800se would be a prime example of this

Prime example of what. Why would you softmod a card that costs nearly the same as the pro card anyway? The AIW 9800se (not available here) turned out to be a damn good deal for some folks. I didn't hear of a big pile of dead returned cards.

Overclocking is a much safer way to get gaurenteed results, as for your 4 locked pipelines, just remember, unlocking them only works 30-70% of the time. But what I cannot see, is why on earth did you think you could soft-mod that card to a 9700?

Because with a 256MB memory bandwidth and 8 pipelines enabled, its essentially a 9700pro...hello. Why is overclocking safer? because you do it? Where did he say he wanted "guaranteed results? Like I said, so what if it only works some of the time.

reever · Mar 4, 2004

You do know that when companies get returns back, they don't go by looks alone on determining what the product is you know? A softmodded 9500 still has the bios of a 9500, not to mention different memory

SneakyStuff · Mar 4, 2004

because rb45, it only works SOME OF THE TIME, and when it's not done correctly, problems arise. Are you past that fact yet? Just look at the title of the thread.

markjs · Mar 4, 2004

I bought the card used so I can't RMA it if I wanted to! So basically I softmodded, it didn't work, and I still have a 9500np that still works fine at it's normal speed and pipes. End of story.....Got a problem with that? Tough!

SneakyStuff · Mar 4, 2004

so you're saying that the card is in working order as of now? as a 9500np?

rbV5 · Mar 4, 2004

Originally posted by: SneakyStuff
because rb45, it only works SOME OF THE TIME, and when it's not done correctly, problems arise. Are you past that fact yet? Just look at the title of the thread.

Overclocking only works some of time, so what? What do you mean by not done correctly, problems arise? Get Past what fact, gimme one and I'll let you know if I'm past it. Why don't you read his Post? He wants to know how to softmod to a 9500pro(Personally, I'm not sure this is possible because the 128bit memory bandwidth is the differnece here), because the 9700 softmod has artifacts. He is thinking a different approach may yield better results...are you following it now?

markjs · Mar 4, 2004

Originally posted by: SneakyStuff
so you're saying that the card is in working order as of now? as a 9500np?

That is indeed exactly what I am saying! I knew this might be the result when I started.

I am a seasoned overclocker and I don't take big risks. I overclcok just enough to get a bit more bang for my buck but not enough to trash my equiptment.

To understand why softmodding is not a risk you must understand that all softmodding does is open up the 4 pipelines that are already present but unused. It is not the same as overclcoking. If the pipes are in good working order the softmod will work, if not you get artifacts, but if you close back down the extra pipes the artifacts go away. To my way of thinking I'd be stupid to not try it.

SneakyStuff · Mar 4, 2004

My apologies to you, I completely misunderstood your question. You could most likely pull off a 9500 pro soft-mod.

ronnn · Mar 4, 2004

riva tuner May work for you, but if I understand this link you may run into the same problem of not all 8 pipelines working properly. Hope this helped. :beer:

lazybum131 · Mar 4, 2004

If you have a 9500np with the L-shaped memory (256-bit memory bus) you can only try to softmod to a 9700.
The 9500Pro has 8 pipelines and a 128-bit memory bus. The softmod from 9500np to Pro only applies to newer non-pro's that had I-shaped memory configuration. Both instances just open up the unused 4 pipelines.

reever: the softmod has nothing to do with the BIOS, just the drivers.

Blastman · Mar 4, 2004

There is some info here along with some BIOS?s

http://www.ocfaq.com/softmod/faq.php

How do I change my soft mod?

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